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when AIM first came to phones werent people charged the standard text fee when they send an IM? i am pretty sure they were. The only time i see ichat working while not using text fees and eating money away from at@t(any provider) would be from a wifi connection.
 
Yeah like h.246, Apple's evil take-over-the-world video format. Or AAC, which stands for "Atrocious Apple Compression". And HTML/CSS ... and PDF. All evil Apple formats. Oh wait! Let's not forget PNG! Or SVG! Those bastards!

Oh, and if you can't tell, I'm totally making fun of you. You're loony. The only case you can make for Apple pushing their own format is with iTunes DRM, which is dying at Apple's own hand.



Flash came with my iMac, it's a plug-in just like on Windows. WMV is a hack because Microsoft stopped supporting it on the Mac, and handed it off to Flip4Mac.

Flash isn't on the iPhone because of a couple reasons: first, it's not a standard. No, No, NO. NO. Shutup. It's not a standard. It's just not, it's just popular. HTML and CSS are standards. Flash works against the iPhone's user interface paradigm. Dragging? On-mouse-over events? The only purpose for Flash on the iPhone would be for Flash video. The most popular Flash video site (YouTube) is already on the iPhone, so why bother? A small minority of nerds are demanding it, but normal users don't care.

Okay, you make a great point about flash websites, but I disagree with flash video. There are tons of youtube-like sites, as well as social networking sites that use flash video. As for it being a standard...I think we're all just getting hung up over the word 'standard'. It's popular, very, very popular. I have no statistics, but I know that nearly every website I go to gets that little blue cube indicating I don't have the flash plugin, so I can't view the content. As for youtube...if H.264 is so great as an internet format then why does youtube continue to publish in Flash in addition to H.264 for iphone?
 
Actually, in terms of vector graphics and animation, I would say that Flash is definitely a standard.

Yes, it is a standard in some sense.

Like how it's standard for usability nightmares, splash page purgatory and useless superfluous animations. But seriously, yes it is a standard for animation. Vector graphics? SVG is the future. And by no means is Flash a web standard.
 
I hear ya'...

I have to admit however, with over a 100 contacts in my addressbook, asking each one their carrier, and then having to enter the addresses in 100X is an effen PITA. :) MMS would be MUCH better.

but I've got maybe 25 contacts that I send photos to their phones, so I can understand how 100 could be effen PITA.

I'm just suggesting "how we can work with what we got."
:cool:
 
US....

Airplane Mode
WIFI

USAGE

....

This is odd... I'm in the US and I KNOW for a fact I've seen carrier before set to AT&T when I first got my 16GB iphone on 1.1.3. I remember looking at it and thinking, "hmm, weird, guess it's for other countries." Maybe 1.1.4 removed it?
 
New sound settings for mail

in 1.1.4 you can now turn off/on the sent mail sound.

1.1.3 only had the ability to turn off/on the new mail sound.
 
Okay, you make a great point about flash websites, but I disagree with flash video. There are tons of youtube-like sites, as well as social networking sites that use flash video. As for it being a standard...I think we're all just getting hung up over the word 'standard'. It's popular, very, very popular. I have no statistics, but I know that nearly every website I go to gets that little blue cube indicating I don't have the flash plugin, so I can't view the content. As for youtube...if H.264 is so great as an internet format then why does youtube continue to publish in Flash in addition to H.264 for iphone?
Because it's an unofficial standard for vector animation on the internet.
 
The camera is absolutely better. No blurriness whatsoever. Looks like video recording is coming soon.

Sat here with a 1.1.3 and a 1.1.4, no difference what so ever in the camera.

I think this is just people checking out the up dat in a well lit room and suddenly remembering the last time they used it it was choppy. (because it was a dark room)
 
The Flash using too much battery argument is getting old and stupid. Just because it's enabled, doesn't mean battery life is automatically cut in half. Someone would have to use flash heavily, and one could assume that doing so would cut into their time. Add support and have a disable button. Stop defending retarded ideas.?

If you know anything about Flash and how it works, you would know that the drain it has on the battery, while it is being used, is quite dramatic compared to a non-Flash page such as HTML, Javascript, etc. If you are on a Flash page and viewing it for, let's say 3 or 4 minutes, your battery would drain as if your device was on for 25 - 40 minutes. Now try viewing 2 or 3 Flash sites a day. At the end of the day, your battery would end up using a LOT more juice.

Not only that, but such drains can make all other operations on the device pretty much inoperable because Flash can (if not properly scripted) also be quite taxing on the processor itself. As a Flash developer in times of testing, I have seen many sites take up a lot of CPU power on many a desktop machine. I always try to test my sites out and see what kind of spike it gets to make sure it it not overwhelming a machine. But unfortunately, I have also seen Flash sites that make a machine come to a crawl because of their code being too much for the Flash plug-in and the CPU to handle all at once. It happens, and more than you think. To simply drop Flash (as it stands now) on the iPhone is not an option. No matter how much you want to "make it so."

We'll just have to wait until an alternative option can be reached, either by Adobe and Apple getting together to come up with something like Flash Lite, or some 3rd party developer coming up with some alternative work-around that would work with Flash and not kill your iPhone battery. And believe me, it will.

P.S. Plus you would have to come up with something that deals with RollOvers and such since the iPhone does not have a "Mouse Over" function because of its Touch Screen.
 
Macs cannot even play most WMVs natively, so why would a Mac handheld device?

Are you crazy...of course it can using a plug in, just like it uses a plug in for flash. Are you saying it can't natively because that plug in doesn't ship with the mac? There are lots of things that don't ship with the mac that we find important enough to add.
 
I got this like three times.

Finally I turned off my phone, unplugged it from my computer, rebooted my computer, then ran iTunes.

Once iTunes was loaded, I hooked up my iPhone via USB and then tried the upgrade again. This time it worked.

I got this too. Just unplugged the iphone, replugged it and tried again. Second time worked.
 
FALSE! The 1.0.1 update was 7.1 MB, and 1.0.2 update was 3.7 MB!

There are update files and restore files -- the restore files (you guessed it) allow you to restore, and an update is JUST that.


I'd like to point out that all iPhone updates are about 160MB ... it replaces the whole OS, not just the bits that have updates. That's why 3rd party applications are always erased if you've jailbroken your iPhone/Touch.
 
...and yet another ridiculous "solution". That's right, we're all going to keep a list of all of the carrier email addresses, and a list of which carrier all of our contacts are on. Then create a separate email address for sending a simple MMS picture. Get real, it's cumbersome and absurd.

But it works and it's all we can really do... so we have to deal with it...
 
But while im here.. The camera seems exactly the same to me. From my experience, the frame rates always varied with light levels. And even IF it is improved, i dont see how this is any indication of an impending video recording feature.
Safari too doesnt seem any faster to me either.

Its all eerily identical :confused:
 
the tabs loading in safari are ace, when flicking through your tabs was it always possible to see the web pages?:confused::confused: or was it just the title of the page and a blank white screen, only updated 30mins ago and forgot.
 
Wrong...
There are a ton of websites where the entire site is nothing but Flash.
I'm not a nerd, just a guitar player and a "normal user".
Example: The Jackson guitar website is done entirely in Flash... I cannot view any of it on my iPhone. Same applies to the Charvel guitar site.
Some of the online parts stores I go to have their entire catlog done in Flash... again, can't see it on my iPhone.
So while it may not be an "industry standard", there are a ***** load of sites using it.
So step away from the keyboard and put down the Kool-Aid. :rolleyes:

People using Flash to build entire websites need to wake up and smell the standards.

Flash sucks for websites. It's not a standard, it's not usable. Furthermore, Flash on the iPhone wouldn't work in terms of user interface paradigms. Flash would be slow, it would be choppy, dragging and mouse-over events wouldn't work.

People are either going to complain about a crappy Flash, or they're going to complain about no Flash. Apple decided to have no Flash, and it's a smart decision. Anything worth doing is worth doing right, and Flash can't be done "right" on the iPhone, so why do it?
 
For some reason 1.1.4 is not downloading for me.

It just stays on "Contacting the iPhone software update server"

I have a working internet connection as well
 
Okay, you make a great point about flash websites, but I disagree with flash video. There are tons of youtube-like sites, as well as social networking sites that use flash video. As for it being a standard...I think we're all just getting hung up over the word 'standard'. It's popular, very, very popular. I have no statistics, but I know that nearly every website I go to gets that little blue cube indicating I don't have the flash plugin, so I can't view the content. As for youtube...if H.264 is so great as an internet format then why does youtube continue to publish in Flash in addition to H.264 for iphone?

I think Apple should support Flash video. I think they should add .flv to supported formats, and play the video directly instead of using Flash as a middle-man to watch the video.

If that seems confusing, it's because FLV is confusing. You can play FLV with certain applications without Flash, and I think that's what Apple should do.
 
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