I think the whole thing is hilarious. iPhone 4 is lightyears ahead of anything. Every Android phone is a turd that's trying to compete with whatever model of iPhone was released 2 yrs ago.
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1 year later and the iPhone 4 is still better than all Android phones
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Why, on an iPhone forum, are there so many Andriod defenders? Seems like they join just to start arguments. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with Andriod but there sure are alot of people that take issue with any negative critique of them.
Maybe they like havin g a debate about this certain subject? And they joined this MAC forum they own other mac products?
Anyways I love macs because they are simple yet powerful and customizable machines. I now dislike the iphons 4 because it well behind in terms of specs and the UI of the phone has become boring and stale.
Hopfully ios6 is the game changer and iphone 5 is the 1st step.
I have played around with a lot of Android phones and the only one that has been able to stand up to the iPhone is the Evo. That is one fantastic phone.
I actually took a six month leave from the iPhone after having every generation to pick up the Evo last June and didn't even miss the iPhone for quite awhile. However, the itch came back to me last December and I switched back to the iPhone 4.
I actually took a six month leave from the iPhone after having every generation to pick up the Evo last June and didn't even miss the iPhone for quite awhile. However, the itch came back to me last December and I switched back to the iPhone 4.
Sounds like OP is just trying to justify upgrading two months before a new iphone comes out to himself. Iphone 4 is great and you locked into you unlimited data is great to, but saying it still better than all android phones could be a bit of an over statement. I think better put would have been its the best phone for you.
Even the first Evo is still extremely relevant. I love that phone and wish it was avail for other carriers
Why, on an iPhone forum, are there so many Andriod defenders? Seems like they join just to start arguments. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with Andriod but there sure are alot of people that take issue with any negative critique of them.
If there werent any Android supporters on this site than threads like this would barely get started. Who wants to have a conversation where everyone agrees with you? its boring. We are the Joker to your Batman
Batman: Why do you want to kill me?
The Joker: [laughs] Kill you? I dont want to kill you! What would I do without you? Go back to ripping off mob dealers? No, no, you you complete me.
Secondly there are people on here who have Mac computers (Me) and not Iphones. Coexistence is possible
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Consumer Reports disagrees. They reviewed phones available in the US market, including the iPhone 4 and decided the Samsung Galaxy S is the best phone available.
http://www.mobiledia.com/news/76689.html
http://www.mobiledia.com/news/76689.html
So wait OP, you tried ONE Android phone, and that gave you enough evidence to lump every other android phone in your assessment? So glad you're not my lawyer. You seem awfully quick to conclusions.
I stopped reading here. So it has slightly more RAM? Aside from LTE, the Thunderbolt is last gens hardware. Try a Sensation or SGS2 if you want to use the '1 year later' comparison. You did poor research before buying a phone, that's no ones fault but your own.
Better is entirely subjective. Obviously the iPhone will best fit the needs of some, and the Android the needs of others, whereas some will be best served by a Nokia 2100 with terrific battery life.
As for me, the spec-hounds chasing higher GHz processors crack me up. The power onboard my iPhone 4 is just fine for the apps that I run and the single core doesn't require me to carry around a battery as big as my entire phone.
But yeah, I get that some people get all excited by specs, and for them the Samsung must be pretty attractive.
As for me, the spec-hounds chasing higher GHz processors crack me up. The power onboard my iPhone 4 is just fine for the apps that I run and the single core doesn't require me to carry around a battery as big as my entire phone.
But yeah, I get that some people get all excited by specs, and for them the Samsung must be pretty attractive.
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You do realize that having a dual core processor can dramatically improve battery life right?
Im kind of in the same boat. I left the iphone at 3gs, and went to BB 9700. Its great for email, which is its forte, there are facebook apps, the BB world (app store is ok) and i thought, "this is fine, i don't need anything more." Now 10 months later im looking to change, and i have thought seriously about android, but a fellow apple geek friend of mine said "they even have norton and avg virus apps for the android!" That tells me a lot!
Now i want the iphone again-I've invested to much with mac and mobile me to not be in the apple world (or you just miss out on lots of decent linking of software and hardware). Sure, you could get ical syncing on android, but its all a "work around". I miss it just working.
I would seriously consider just getting the 4 as it sound great (even after being around for a year) but i'll wait to see what happens with the 5 and how long and much it'll be sim free.
Now i want the iphone again-I've invested to much with mac and mobile me to not be in the apple world (or you just miss out on lots of decent linking of software and hardware). Sure, you could get ical syncing on android, but its all a "work around". I miss it just working.
I would seriously consider just getting the 4 as it sound great (even after being around for a year) but i'll wait to see what happens with the 5 and how long and much it'll be sim free.
The thing I LOVE about Android is the phones always keep improving in specs. Based on a hardware battle, Android usually wins. Why? Because manufacturers announce new products several times during the year. Apple only gets one shot with the iPhone per year. But with that said, Android OEM's do spread themselves too thinly.
Apple has only one iPhone to worry about. They can put their entire resources on one phone and have such an amazing attention to detail with it. Other competitors can't do this. Here is one example - Sony Ericsson. I personally think the XPERIA series are some of the best in class when it comes to overall design ever since the X1. I think the XPERIA Arc is one of the nicest phones I've ever seen. Sony can have an amazing design team as good as Apple when they focus on it. But guess what? SE used plastic on the Arc! Then when they show off a cheaper phone like the XPERIA ray, it has all the metal accents. And none of them are in the dual-core wars yet. Again, spreading your talents too thinly for each product.
Xperia ray - design and inspiration
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykjrD_8anyw
I think the iPhone's only real weakness is something it actually makes the most profit on with apps - gaming. I like the games, but I feel a ton of them are just so shallow and feel some of them are pointless without real buttons. That is why I always go back checking on the underpowered Xperia Play or whatever successor it will have someday..,,
iPhone 4 + PS Vita - perfect gadget combination for the next FIVE YEARS! All my needs are fulfilled. I don't really care for 1080p video or an 8MP camera with pix that takes up more space. Alot of this newer stuff is upgrading for the sake of upgrading and craving for the latest and greatest. But do I really need these new features? I know people still happy with their first gen iPhone! People still used a RAZR for like 3-4 years. iOS 5 is not even optimized for dual-core right now and how big of an upgrade was an iPad 2 from the first one? I can see myself regularly using an iPhone 4 (as an iPod touch) and PS Vita even in 2015 by the time Marty McFly steals that Sports Almanac.
Apple has only one iPhone to worry about. They can put their entire resources on one phone and have such an amazing attention to detail with it. Other competitors can't do this. Here is one example - Sony Ericsson. I personally think the XPERIA series are some of the best in class when it comes to overall design ever since the X1. I think the XPERIA Arc is one of the nicest phones I've ever seen. Sony can have an amazing design team as good as Apple when they focus on it. But guess what? SE used plastic on the Arc! Then when they show off a cheaper phone like the XPERIA ray, it has all the metal accents. And none of them are in the dual-core wars yet. Again, spreading your talents too thinly for each product.
Xperia ray - design and inspiration
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykjrD_8anyw
I think the iPhone's only real weakness is something it actually makes the most profit on with apps - gaming. I like the games, but I feel a ton of them are just so shallow and feel some of them are pointless without real buttons. That is why I always go back checking on the underpowered Xperia Play or whatever successor it will have someday..,,
iPhone 4 + PS Vita - perfect gadget combination for the next FIVE YEARS! All my needs are fulfilled. I don't really care for 1080p video or an 8MP camera with pix that takes up more space. Alot of this newer stuff is upgrading for the sake of upgrading and craving for the latest and greatest. But do I really need these new features? I know people still happy with their first gen iPhone! People still used a RAZR for like 3-4 years. iOS 5 is not even optimized for dual-core right now and how big of an upgrade was an iPad 2 from the first one? I can see myself regularly using an iPhone 4 (as an iPod touch) and PS Vita even in 2015 by the time Marty McFly steals that Sports Almanac.
All very valid points OP,
Not only is the interface laggy even running on dual core CPU, it's inconsistent and unpolished.
In one menu/place you get the end bouncing effect like the iPhone, then in another menu when you scroll you suddenly run into a wall.
Android is absolutely nowhere near iOS, talk about quantity over quality.
The apps on Android is second class citizens compared to iOS. First it's made for iOS and then ported to Android, if there is time left.
It'll need at least 2-3 more years of VERY hard work to catch up to iOS.
Not only is the interface laggy even running on dual core CPU, it's inconsistent and unpolished.
In one menu/place you get the end bouncing effect like the iPhone, then in another menu when you scroll you suddenly run into a wall.
Android is absolutely nowhere near iOS, talk about quantity over quality.
The apps on Android is second class citizens compared to iOS. First it's made for iOS and then ported to Android, if there is time left.
It'll need at least 2-3 more years of VERY hard work to catch up to iOS.
Consdiering Apple has a seriously outdated notification system for the last four years and finally copied Android's design in iOS 5, I take the 2 year time frame as a compliment.
I wouldn't put a whole lot into Consumer Reports. I bought a Dryer based on "Consumer Reports Best Dryer". It was the biggest POS I ever owned. I ended up having Sears take the stupid thing back, and bought a cheaper model, and it's been fine.
It's good to use them as a base, to HELP with a decision. But I wouldn't buy something solely based on their recommendations.
LOL...I found this funny. My boss just got the Arc, unlocked. Paid more for it than the unlocked iPhone 4. It's been the biggest POS I've ever seen. Exchange support is horrible. It's laggy, locks up, and although the UI looks pretty, it's extremely unstable. Could be his handset, but from my experience with it, I'd have thrown it through a window on the second day of using it...
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Exact same as you. Had the Droid 1, Droid 2, Droid X, and the Thunderbolt. Switched to an iPhone last week and I couldn't be happier, but as you said, the only thing I loved more about Android more than the iPhone was the fact that the Thunderbolt had 4G LTE which is fast as **** and makes Facebook, browsing, etc. feel blazing fast, but that will all change when the iPhone 6 is out next summer with 4G LTE connectivity (and yes, I am speculating that by next summer when the iPhone 6 is out it'll have 4G LTE connectivity since that was what happened with the iPhone 2 or 3... I forget which one).
Haha, I seriously can't wait until it's 4G. The battery on my Thunderbolt was awful, but the speeds were just incredible. Overtime I'm sure they'll manage something, especially Apple. I speculate June 2012 too.
Yeah man 4G LTE was friggin' awesome here in MA, and from what I read you're in your previous posts, you live in MA too (4G LTE Coverage in MA is pretty damn good... haven't been to a single place that didn't have it yet... Peabody, Beverly, Leominster, Danvers, Boston, Lynn... everywhere haha). I trade my Bolt for the iPhone for the exact reason you said: Battery life. Apple will most likely have it worked out come next year. We all know Apple would never release an iPhone with sucky battery life lol. Also, if a 4G LTE iPhone comes out in summer 2012 that works out perfectly for me since my upgrade is due on July 22, 2012 and from what I've heard, if you've got unlimited 3G (yes I said 3G) right now and you don't change your plan, but upgrade to a 4G phone after the tiered data plans go into effect on July 7th, you will be grandfathered into unlimited 4G and lastly, by next summer I'm expecting 4G LTE coverage to be much much better than it is now, and even at its current state 4G coverage is excellent for me lol.
Haha, yes for both of us! Weird thing is, my contract is up 3/15/12, so around the same date as you too! I think that we will be grandfathered into unlimited 4G, or else we could use this against them!
It states there that they are the same plans, so technically I should be able to keep my unlimited plan! (I need to get off these forums, but the weather is awful
)It's all in the details.
People who can't comprehend that Android behavior is laggy usually don't even have a perception or appreciation for such things.
iPhones are phones for artists. Don't pretend to understand or try to compete. Just know you can't. No Android phone will ever be better until the whole design principle is scrapped and re-built from the ground up to cater to the right brain too, not just the left.
No Android phone is fundamentally in the same league.
People who can't comprehend that Android behavior is laggy usually don't even have a perception or appreciation for such things.
iPhones are phones for artists. Don't pretend to understand or try to compete. Just know you can't. No Android phone will ever be better until the whole design principle is scrapped and re-built from the ground up to cater to the right brain too, not just the left.
No Android phone is fundamentally in the same league.
Haha, yes for both of us! Weird thing is, my contract is up 3/15/12, so around the same date as you too! I think that we will be grandfathered into unlimited 4G, or else we could use this against them!
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It states there that they are the same plans, so technically I should be able to keep my unlimited plan! (I need to get off these forums, but the weather is awful
Definitely will use that against them.
But yeah, 4G LTE was damn awesome... when the U.S. is blanketed in 4G Coverage in 2013 (Verizon's estimated date), I don't think I'll ever need anything faster than it. When I had my Bolt I was getting 12-20 Mbps download and 2-8 Mbps upload. Imagine what Verizon's 5G will be like... And yeah, the weather hasn't been to great all this week. 2 weeks ago it was in the 90's... where'd the heat go?