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1 year later and the iPhone 4 is still better than all Android phones
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That's wrong until you define "better".
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dude, i don't know about iphone 4, but my iphone 3gs lasts 1 day max... Don't tell me that by "terrible" you mean it lasts half a day...!
The difference is that he gives cogent reasons for his viewpoints, backed up by having in his possession a variety of devices. Most of the contradictory points put forward by others appear bereft of any evidence whatsoever, the motivation being pure unadulterated fanboism.
Its completely different. Considering that a stock iphone 4 will run smooth. Start jailbreaking (like i have done, adding all different UI features) and you will see a hitch lag.
Compared to android, UI isn't as polished but certain phones have very minimal lag like example. Nexus S which is only running a stock android on a 1ghz hummingbird (not even dual core). Factor in that, alot of android functions run in the background as opposed to apple controlling the apps with fast switching.
Either is better than the other. It's a choice and different opinion on how you want your smartphone to act and do.
That is all.
think of it this way, as much as many iphone users want to say their platform is better. Adding stuff like notifier, lock info, wallpaper span, tube tv, fast clock...wifi tethering, you are basically adding features that were actually on the android thus making a love child of a robot + iOS.
It would be like taking a blonde and dying her hair brunette...she is still a blonde and thinks like one.
Compared to android, UI isn't as polished but certain phones have very minimal lag like example. Nexus S which is only running a stock android on a 1ghz hummingbird (not even dual core). Factor in that, alot of android functions run in the background as opposed to apple controlling the apps with fast switching.
Either is better than the other. It's a choice and different opinion on how you want your smartphone to act and do.
That is all.
think of it this way, as much as many iphone users want to say their platform is better. Adding stuff like notifier, lock info, wallpaper span, tube tv, fast clock...wifi tethering, you are basically adding features that were actually on the android thus making a love child of a robot + iOS.
It would be like taking a blonde and dying her hair brunette...she is still a blonde and thinks like one.
Thank you
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Kinetic, hilarious, and powerful, I am enthralled by the bulk of the emotion and physical impact of your paragraph for its craftsmanship and its conviction -- the way if finds poignancy in the byways of grief and melancholy. There is palpable, undeniable perversity with a timelessness born of your obsession with the epistemological dyads of self-destruction and rebirth, of impotence and fertility, and of reality and appearance.
Choppinness? I dont experience choppinness when scrolling at all. The thing is almost too sensitive and smooth when im scrolling. Sometimes ill barely touch something on the screen and it will do an action when i dont want it to. Smoother imo than any iP4 ive used but im not bashing the iP4. Good phone. Screen is just too small and it breaks too easily. Too much glass. And i dont like iTunes.
We all know that Galaxy S II crushed every single phone out there. And be sure that they are trying to beat the S II's speed in Apple labs. The fastest browsing experience ever. Smoother than iPhone 4. And lol, no checkerboards.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_4vijEfQaQ
Tried Galaxy S II today, scrolling has a noticeable delay to it, it's not lag or jitters, but IMO scrolling physics needs to be improved.
You you flick and the page stays behind, it's like an online game lag.
Is that supposed to convince me its as good? A clumsy user experience? Its not quite the same thing. Its about overall smoothness.
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I use Macs. I started with an iBook, then I had a MacBook (white), and now I have a MacBook Pro. However, as a Sprint customer, the iPhone is not an option, so I bought the Nexus S 4G. This phone does not lag. It is smooth and silky, just like a baby's behind. In fact, I can almost say I *love* this phone. And, yes, some apps do crash (aka force close), but they do not bring the entire phone down (much like, oh, you know, when a Mac application crashes). Stop this nonsense of iPhone vs. Android. What we should all be afraid of is when Windows Phone 7 kicks both iPhone and Android in the ass.
Hey everyone.
Ive been interested on Android for a long time, but Ive never tried it before. Im very very happy with iOS and my iPhone 4. Ive been debating whether to buy the new iPhone 5 or buy an Android, such as Galaxy S 2.
Yesterday I though of something. I realized it may be stupid to buy the iPhone 5 because it would be my fourth iOS device. I already have an iPod Touch 32GB, an iPad 16GB and the iPhone 4 32GB. If I were to buy the iPhone 5 then it would be yet another iOS device, which would be the same thing. We already know how iOS 5 is, so the iPhone 5 would only be new hardware.
For that, Ive been thinking it would be more interesting and wise to try another OS.
4 iOS devices may be too much. What do you guys think?
Im still hesitant. If I dont buy an Android I think I will stay with my iPhone 4 until the 6 comes out and I would buy a good camera.
Ive been interested on Android for a long time, but Ive never tried it before. Im very very happy with iOS and my iPhone 4. Ive been debating whether to buy the new iPhone 5 or buy an Android, such as Galaxy S 2.
Yesterday I though of something. I realized it may be stupid to buy the iPhone 5 because it would be my fourth iOS device. I already have an iPod Touch 32GB, an iPad 16GB and the iPhone 4 32GB. If I were to buy the iPhone 5 then it would be yet another iOS device, which would be the same thing. We already know how iOS 5 is, so the iPhone 5 would only be new hardware.
For that, Ive been thinking it would be more interesting and wise to try another OS.
4 iOS devices may be too much. What do you guys think?
Im still hesitant. If I dont buy an Android I think I will stay with my iPhone 4 until the 6 comes out and I would buy a good camera.
I use Macs. I started with an iBook, then I had a MacBook (white), and now I have a MacBook Pro. However, as a Sprint customer, the iPhone is not an option, so I bought the Nexus S 4G. This phone does not lag. It is smooth and silky, just like a baby's behind. In fact, I can almost say I *love* this phone. And, yes, some apps do crash (aka force close), but they do not bring the entire phone down (much like, oh, you know, when a Mac application crashes). Stop this nonsense of iPhone vs. Android. What we should all be afraid of is when Windows Phone 7 kicks both iPhone and Android in the ass.
The thing I don't understand is why apple fans compare the iphone to Android to begin with. iphone is a phone, Android is an OS. There are over 80 different phones that have the Android OS installed on it. That's 80 different experiences (some good some not so much). It makes no sense to compare the experience of 80+ devices to one phone. If a person wants to make a comparison they really should just compare it to a particular device and leave it at that. It's no different than Microsoft Windows...Microsoft doesn't make the computers, the manufacturers do. Some computers are better than others..some are great..and some are piss poor. It's the same thing with phones.
iphone 4 is a piece of **** without proper jailbreak
iphone 5 will be a little better but everyone will be riding apples dick when they clearly stole other peoples ideas
open source os is better
iphone 5 will be a little better but everyone will be riding apples dick when they clearly stole other peoples ideas
open source os is better
Fully agree..
I just wanted to throw in my own very similar experience. I have a personal line with AT&T and a business line with Sprint. I've been using the iPhone on my AT&T line since the first day the original model was released, and Palm Treo's on my Sprint line. I always upgraded to the newest Treo until the 755p was released, which was my last upgrade. I was happy as a clam with my iPhone's, but I'm a regular on all the major tech blogs and the siren call from all the other exciting phones was just too much to resist. I hadn't upgraded my Sprint line in years, and the Treo was showing it's age, so I was antsy to try something new.
First up to bat was the Palm Pre. No phone before it showed promise like the Pre. I returned it after a week because it was just too slow and the hardware was terribly cheap. Palm's engineers did a great job with the software, but they simply bit off more than the hardware could chew.
Back to the Treo 755p.
A year or two passed and Android was showing some real traction. It was the star of every hardcore geek, and supposedly the first real iPhone contender. I finally broke down and drove to my local Sprint store, getting there right before they closed, and bought the HTC Hero. I was back as they were opening up in the morning to return it. That phone was absolutely terrible. You want to see lag? Check out the Hero. That phone has a full 1 second delay before it does anything you tell it to. It can't even track your finger properly when scrolling up and down your settings list. The only thing I liked about it was the build quality. It wasn't better, or even on par, with the iPhone's build quality, but it was the closest I'd ever seen.
Back to the Treo 755p.. Again.
The very first rumors for the HTC Evo were just starting to crop up when I returned the Hero, and the prospect of a significantly faster processor was extremely intriguing after using the Hero. I figured all of those problems with lag would disappear if I had some more powerful internals. I anxiously waited months for it's release and was at the Sprint store on launch day to pick one up. Once it was activated and ready to go, I raced back home to play with it. The blogs hadn't built up a device as much as they built up the Evo since.. the original iPhone. This was the new Jesus phone. The phone of all phones. It wasn't a "smartphone", it was a "superphone". I started messing around with it and my heart instantly dropped. The lag wasn't just there, it was identical! It was so bad, I made a video of it next to the current iPhone at the time (the iPhone 3G S). Everything lagged. Moving between "pages", scrolling up and down lists, moving around in Maps, all of it felt like I was using something from 10 years ago. I tried a few apps out and they felt second rate, unpolished, and crashed constantly. The one saving grace I think think of was the ability to root the phone and enable the WiFi hotspot feature for free. I found the step by step instructions to do just this on the web, and they worked, but only half of the time. The app that enabled the hotspot had to be reset every few minutes, which was good in some respects because when it was on, it would destroy the already terrible battery life. The last feature it even had to test was the photo and recording capabilities. The Evo was one of the first phones to allow 720p recording and I was pretty excited to see it do this. I couldn't have possibly been more disappointed. When recording in 720p, the frame rate was so low that it was virtually unusable. When it came to taking pictures with the 8 mega pixel camera, the images were lacking in every area. Color, light level, graininess, everything. My seemingly less capable iPhone 4 dominates the Evo when it comes to photo and video.
Back to the Treo 755p.. Yet again.
I truly can't understand how Android users put up with the lag. I guess if you weren't used to how an iPhone works it might be easier to forget about the lag, ignorance is bliss after all, but you'd think it would get on their nerves eventually.
I just wanted to throw in my own very similar experience. I have a personal line with AT&T and a business line with Sprint. I've been using the iPhone on my AT&T line since the first day the original model was released, and Palm Treo's on my Sprint line. I always upgraded to the newest Treo until the 755p was released, which was my last upgrade. I was happy as a clam with my iPhone's, but I'm a regular on all the major tech blogs and the siren call from all the other exciting phones was just too much to resist. I hadn't upgraded my Sprint line in years, and the Treo was showing it's age, so I was antsy to try something new.
First up to bat was the Palm Pre. No phone before it showed promise like the Pre. I returned it after a week because it was just too slow and the hardware was terribly cheap. Palm's engineers did a great job with the software, but they simply bit off more than the hardware could chew.
Back to the Treo 755p.
A year or two passed and Android was showing some real traction. It was the star of every hardcore geek, and supposedly the first real iPhone contender. I finally broke down and drove to my local Sprint store, getting there right before they closed, and bought the HTC Hero. I was back as they were opening up in the morning to return it. That phone was absolutely terrible. You want to see lag? Check out the Hero. That phone has a full 1 second delay before it does anything you tell it to. It can't even track your finger properly when scrolling up and down your settings list. The only thing I liked about it was the build quality. It wasn't better, or even on par, with the iPhone's build quality, but it was the closest I'd ever seen.
Back to the Treo 755p.. Again.
The very first rumors for the HTC Evo were just starting to crop up when I returned the Hero, and the prospect of a significantly faster processor was extremely intriguing after using the Hero. I figured all of those problems with lag would disappear if I had some more powerful internals. I anxiously waited months for it's release and was at the Sprint store on launch day to pick one up. Once it was activated and ready to go, I raced back home to play with it. The blogs hadn't built up a device as much as they built up the Evo since.. the original iPhone. This was the new Jesus phone. The phone of all phones. It wasn't a "smartphone", it was a "superphone". I started messing around with it and my heart instantly dropped. The lag wasn't just there, it was identical! It was so bad, I made a video of it next to the current iPhone at the time (the iPhone 3G S). Everything lagged. Moving between "pages", scrolling up and down lists, moving around in Maps, all of it felt like I was using something from 10 years ago. I tried a few apps out and they felt second rate, unpolished, and crashed constantly. The one saving grace I think think of was the ability to root the phone and enable the WiFi hotspot feature for free. I found the step by step instructions to do just this on the web, and they worked, but only half of the time. The app that enabled the hotspot had to be reset every few minutes, which was good in some respects because when it was on, it would destroy the already terrible battery life. The last feature it even had to test was the photo and recording capabilities. The Evo was one of the first phones to allow 720p recording and I was pretty excited to see it do this. I couldn't have possibly been more disappointed. When recording in 720p, the frame rate was so low that it was virtually unusable. When it came to taking pictures with the 8 mega pixel camera, the images were lacking in every area. Color, light level, graininess, everything. My seemingly less capable iPhone 4 dominates the Evo when it comes to photo and video.
Back to the Treo 755p.. Yet again.
I truly can't understand how Android users put up with the lag. I guess if you weren't used to how an iPhone works it might be easier to forget about the lag, ignorance is bliss after all, but you'd think it would get on their nerves eventually.
I also had an Evo and my experience with it was very different than yours. Mine did not lag, and once they released an update it did get a little faster also. As for the Hero, that device flat out sucked lol. That being said, I don't really think you can make a blanket statement regarding every Android phone out there if the only phones you tried out was a low end phone and an Evo (though I didn't have any problems with the Evo). What people have to realize is that Android is only an OS, IT IS NOT A PHONE. I wouldn't go try out a computer with a celeron chip and then say Windows is slow, just because that one low end computer I tried out was slow. Just as there are fast computers and slow computers, good computers and bad computers; the same is true with Android phones, there are fast ones and slow ones, there are good ones and bad ones. Also, a lot of your experience is determined by how you set it up too. Just as you can choose to bog down your computer, the same can be done with Android. The reason you don't see the same thing on IOS is because it doesn't handle processes in the same fashion. It doesn't truly multitask, so you don't really have background data transmission taking place and you don't really have any process doing work in the background.