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Should continued work on 10.6.8 PowerPC and Xcode 3.2.X have its own dedicated thread?

  • Yes - I would like to be able to follow and/or contribute to a Developer Preview thread specifically

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  • Indifferent - I don't care either way i just appreciate the work that's being done

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This may be a dumb question, but to clarify does the kernel actually support 64-bit addressing at the system level for the G5 systems? As in, can this kernel address more than 4GBs of RAM? IDK why but this question has been itching in the back of my brain because I just assumed we would get a 64-bit kernel for G5s but I am not so sure now.
 
This may be a dumb question, but to clarify does the kernel actually support 64-bit addressing at the system level for the G5 systems? As in, can this kernel address more than 4GBs of RAM? IDK why but this question has been itching in the back of my brain because I just assumed we would get a 64-bit kernel for G5s but I am not so sure now.
The kernel is 32-bit but it can run 64-bit processes.
https://lowendmac.com/2014/the-g5-and-mac-os-x-less-64-bit-than-youd-think/
Virtual Memory can probably handle sharing of memory between 32-bit kernel and 64-bit app.
I think DART can handle DMA from hardware to 64-bit addresses.
 
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Some truly great work here! Thank you so much to everyone who's contributed to this.

I just tested this on my PowerBook G4 and PowerBook Pismo (w/ G4 upgrade) and am really impressed. I'm trying to get connect to my Wi-Fi, but it's asking me for a Wi-Fi username, in addition to the password. I tried searching around to see if anyone's solved this, but didn't see anything. Is this a know issue? Is there a workaround?
 
I attempted to install the Adobe CS4 Design application, but when I launched the installer, it didnt went further than asking the password again and again.
but on leopard it worked, so i know it isnt the installer problem, but why Snow Leopard struggle with this and how to make it work
Is it possible to use Pacifist to install Adobe? Ver 3.0.10 is probably what you want. I've used Pacifist over years (er, decades?) to get around installer issues, but I can't remember if it works with Adobe. I'll try to test it later myself and report back if I get to it before anyone else.
 
Is it possible to use Pacifist to install Adobe? Ver 3.0.10 is probably what you want. I've used Pacifist over years (er, decades?) to get around installer issues, but I can't remember if it works with Adobe. I'll try to test it later myself and report back if I get to it before anyone else.

I will try to remember to try CS4 on 10.6.8.
I did install and worked on 10a190.
 
I will try to remember to try CS4 on 10.6.8.
I did install and worked on 10a190.
So I tired install CS4, and I get the same thing, it asks for the admin credentials over and over again, and never installs. I tried to use Pacifist, but it pops up the warning that it's damaged. I know it's not the actual application, because I use both a working copy from my 10.5 install, as well as downloading it directly off their website.

Getting Pacifist working would be very helpful for getting around installers that check for system versions.
 
So I tired install CS4, and I get the same thing, it asks for the admin credentials over and over again, and never installs. I tried to use Pacifist, but it pops up the warning that it's damaged. I know it's not the actual application, because I use both a working copy from my 10.5 install, as well as downloading it directly off their website.

Getting Pacifist working would be very helpful for getting around installers that check for system versions.

Pacifist issue was discussed. I recall setting back system time to 2023 allowed it to start.
 
@Edgecrusherr, I believe that it is no longer possible to install CS4. Adobe has turned off the Activation servers for it (and other CS versions as well). It will install OK, but after the 30 day trial period, it ceases to function. It requires activation and the servers that would activate it are simply no longer there!

I am pretty annoyed with that, personally. I have purchased every version of Photoshop or Photoshop upgrade from the original CS through CS5, but now I have to pay a monthly license fee just to keep a working version of Photoshop on my Mac Studio.

For PPC, the only activation-free version I am aware of is CS3... Adobe briefly released an activation-free CS3 student/teacher version, and if you look hard enough out there you can still find it. I did... but I failed to record where I got it from!
 
Interesting, @barracuda156. Have you tried this and does it work? Have you been able to successfully install CS4 on a PPC Mac and then use it beyond just 30 days?

That always worked, nothing changed here. There whole point was to avoid Adobe servers ;)
As far as I recall, with CS4 and some version after there is no need to patch binaries, just to install the right way and block outgoing connections.
 
@Edgecrusherr, I believe that it is no longer possible to install CS4. Adobe has turned off the Activation servers for it (and other CS versions as well). It will install OK, but after the 30 day trial period, it ceases to function. It requires activation and the servers that would activate it are simply no longer there!

I am pretty annoyed with that, personally. I have purchased every version of Photoshop or Photoshop upgrade from the original CS through CS5, but now I have to pay a monthly license fee just to keep a working version of Photoshop on my Mac Studio.

For PPC, the only activation-free version I am aware of is CS3... Adobe briefly released an activation-free CS3 student/teacher version, and if you look hard enough out there you can still find it. I did... but I failed to record where I got it from!
I don't advocate for piracy, but I have a fully functioning version of CS4 running just fine on this computer under 10.4 and 10.5 (I've paid for the CS4, and I also have a CC subscription on my modern computer, so Adobe is getting their money from me, whether I like them or not).

I believe the trick it to install it with the trial, then make changes to the host file before activating. I just did it that on a fresh 10.5.8 Sorbet install on this PowerBook G4, and it shoes as activated, but you may need a hacked version. I'm using an install package I have in my software archive, and I'm using my old SN, but with the host file trick.
 
Pacifist works with the date chanced, thanks!

Some things I tried to do with 10.6.8 PPC:

I wasn't able to get Adobe installed with Pacifist. There's too many components to the CS install for Pacifist to figured it out.

I also could not get G4FanControl, because it needs Java. I read through the comments about Java not working, so hopefully we can get that working in the future.

I couldn't get SideTrack installed, so I could setup a tap corning for right-click and scrolling. The installer app fails, maybe because it was never made for Snow Leopard. I looked at my install of 10.5, and used that to manually install the SideTrack files over to 10.6.8, including the Kext and Launch Daemon, but get the error that the Daemon could not load. Not sure what to do from there, but I'll do some research.

AquaFox runs great, I'm making that my default PPC browser on 10.4-10.6.

Overall, this is a great and promising project, thank you everyone!

Does anyone know how to manually set the fan to max out on a PowerBook G4 (2004)? My fan isn't kicking in (which is unfortunately normal for this PowerBook), but it runs hot, so I manually set it in other OSes.
 
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@ChrisCharman @educovas Occasionally I get a bad system freeze when making a screen capture with Preview and saving it to .png. I need to do a hard reboot then. Anyone experienced that? This is “Nvidia-specific” image of 10.6.8.
 
I also could not get G4FanControl, because it needs Java. I read through the comments about Java not working, so hopefully we can get that working in the future.

WDYM Java is not working? I can assure you OpenJDK 8 is working fine, I have used it for Java packages in R, which pass tests, I have also compiled ABCL Lisp compiler (it is in Java) and i2p implementation in Java (confirmed to work).

What is lacking is GUI support in Java.
 
WDYM Java is not working? I can assure you OpenJDK 8 is working fine, I have used it for Java packages in R, which pass tests, I have also compiled ABCL Lisp compiler (it is in Java) and i2p implementation in Java (confirmed to work).

What is lacking is GUI support in Java.
Thanks for letting me know. I didn't try Java 8, I assumed all Java wasn't working. I'll give it a try. G4FanControl was originally developed for older version of macOS, and I think it did't get any real updates after Tiger, so so support for it was pretty flakey in Leopard as it was.
 
Thanks for letting me know. I didn't try Java 8, I assumed all Java wasn't working. I'll give it a try. G4FanControl was originally developed for older version of macOS, and I think it did't get any real updates after Tiger, so so support for it was pretty flakey in Leopard as it was.

This Java works: https://github.com/macos-powerpc/po...040d53df500a79/java/openjdk8-powerpc/Portfile

Somewhat older, but should work perfectly fine, in official MacPorts: https://ports.macports.org/port/openjdk8-powerpc

When the port was added, it was also tested on Leopard (32-bit ppc). Presumably it should still build and work.

As I said, there is no support for any GUI – neither Cocoa nor X11. That should be fixable, but needs time, which is a scarce resource )
 
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Issue with Screenflow 1.5.4. Compatible with Leopard which is why I chose this version.

The issue is that this application will not launch. It comes with this error message involving ImageKit:

Code:
Application Specific Information:
objc[23146]: '/System/Library/Frameworks/Quartz.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ImageKit.framework/Versions/A/ImageKit' was not compiled with -fobjc-gc or -fobjc-gc-only, but the application requires GC
objc[23146]: *** GC capability of application and some libraries did not match

Let me know if more information is required
 
Issue with Screenflow 1.5.4. Compatible with Leopard which is why I chose this version.

The issue is that this application will not launch. It comes with this error message involving ImageKit:

Code:
Application Specific Information:
objc[23146]: '/System/Library/Frameworks/Quartz.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ImageKit.framework/Versions/A/ImageKit' was not compiled with -fobjc-gc or -fobjc-gc-only, but the application requires GC
objc[23146]: *** GC capability of application and some libraries did not match

Let me know if more information is required

If the app crashed, there should be a log in ~/Library/Logs.
 
This Java works: https://github.com/macos-powerpc/po...040d53df500a79/java/openjdk8-powerpc/Portfile

Somewhat older, but should work perfectly fine, in official MacPorts: https://ports.macports.org/port/openjdk8-powerpc

When the port was added, it was also tested on Leopard (32-bit ppc). Presumably it should still build and work.

As I said, there is no support for any GUI – neither Cocoa nor X11. That should be fixable, but needs time, which is a scarce resource )
Thanks!
 
If the app crashed, there should be a log in ~/Library/Logs.
There is not a log there so the app probably didn't crash. It just refused to start because ImageKit in 10.6.8 seems to be missing something.

If you're really in need of a screen recording utility then Screenflicker seems to work just fine.
 
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