Then wait another 3-4 years and Samsung's features will work properly.Wait for iPhone 17, potentially even 18 to get features that exist in the current Samsung flagships.
I was thinking the exact same thing!As someone with a 13 Pro Max, wasn't enticed with 14 or 15 and this convinced me to wait for 17. I'll just treat myself to a new battery some point later this year since I'm at 84% battery health.
Apple "Insiders" predictions rate sucks. They won't even get iPhone 16 predictions right and you're telling me you know what's coming to the 17?
Apple's iPhone development roadmap runs several years into the future and the company is continually working with suppliers on several successive iPhone models concurrently, which is why we sometimes get rumored feature leaks so far ahead of launch. The iPhone 17 series is no different, and already we have some idea of what to expect from Apple's 2025 smartphone lineup.
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If you plan to skip this year's iPhone 16, or if you're just plain curious about what's on the horizon, here are 10 rumored features that we are expecting to arrive in time for its successor, the iPhone 17 series, which is likely to be released in September 2025.
1. Under-Display Face ID
iPhone 17 Pro & iPhone 17 Pro Max
The iPhone 17 Pro is expected to be the first iPhone to feature under-panel Face ID technology. The only external indication of the under-display Face ID technology will likely be a circular cutout for the front-facing camera. This will probably be Apple's last premium model to include a circular cutout for the front-facing camera. Apple is then expected adopt under-display cameras in 2027's "Pro" iPhone models for a true "all-screen" appearance.
2. New Display Sizes
iPhone 17 & iPhone 17 Plus
This year's iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max are rumored to be getting bigger display sizes, going from 6.12- and 6.69-inches to 6.27- and 6.86-inches, respectively. For 2025, Apple is also expected to bring the larger 6.27-inch display size to its standard iPhone model, while the equivalent "iPhone 17 Plus" model could adopt completely new display dimensions.
3. 120Hz ProMotion (Always-on Display)
iPhone 17 & iPhone 17 Plus
Apple intends to expand ProMotion to its standard models in 2025, allowing them to ramp up to a 120Hz refresh rate for smoother scrolling and video content when necessary. Notably, ProMotion would also enable the display on the iPhone 17 and iPhone 17 Plus to ramp down to a more power-efficient refresh rate as low as 1Hz, allowing for an always-on display that can show the Lock Screen's clock, widgets, notifications, and wallpaper even when the device is locked.
4. Apple-Designed Wi-Fi 7 Chip
iPhone 17 Pro & iPhone 17 Pro Max
Apple's premium 2025 models are expected to be equipped with an Apple-designed Wi-Fi 7 chip for the first time. Wi-Fi 7 support would allow the "Pro" models to send and receive data over the 2.4GHz, 5GHz, and 6GHz bands simultaneously with a supported router, resulting in faster Wi-Fi speeds, lower latency, and more reliable connectivity. The Wi-Fi chip would also allow Apple to further reduce its dependance on external suppliers like Broadcom, which currently supplies Apple with a combined Wi-Fi and Bluetooth chip for iPhones.
5. 48MP Telephoto Lens
iPhone 17 Pro Max
An upgraded 48-megapixel Telephoto lens on Apple's largest premium device is expected to be optimized for use with Apple's upcoming Vision Pro headset, which launches on February 2, 2024. (The current iPhone 15 Pro models feature 48-megapixel main, 12-megapixel ultra wide, and 12-megapixel telephoto lenses.) That would make 2025's "Pro Max" the first iPhone to have a rear camera system composed entirely of 48-megapixel lenses, making it capable of capturing even more photographic detail.
6. 24MP Selfie Camera
All iPhone 17 Models
The iPhone 17 lineup will feature a 24-megapixel front-facing camera with a six-element lens, according to one rumor. The iPhone 14 and 15 feature a 12-megapixel front-facing camera with five plastic lens elements, and this year's iPhone 16 lineup is expected to feature the same hardware. The upgraded resolution to 24 megapixels on the iPhone 17 will allow photos to maintain their quality even when cropped or zoomed in, while the larger number of pixels will capture finer details. The upgrade to a six-element lens should also slightly enhance image quality.
7. Scratch Resistant Anti-Reflective Display
All iPhone 17 Models
The iPhone 17 will feature an anti-reflective display that is more scratch-resistant than Apple's Ceramic Shield found on iPhone 15 models, according to one rumor. The outer glass on the iPhone 17 is said to have a "super-hard anti-reflective layer" that is "more scratch-resistant." It's not clear whether Apple is planning to adopt the Gorilla Glass Armor that Samsung uses in its Galaxy S24 Ultra, but the description of Corning's latest technology matches the... Click here to read rest of article
Article Link: 10 Reasons to Wait for Next Year's iPhone 17
To me, it's kind of crazy not to. You trade in your current one and pay half the cost of a new one. I pay basically $600/year.As an AAPL shareholder, thank you. They would be screwed if consumers upgraded at the pace that I do.
Yet still have the giant gap from main to tele.48MP telephoto camera so you can see every hair on the face of the person you are stalking from 200 feet away. 🤡
Excellent point. In 2025, there will be 10 reasons to wait for iPhone 17. Etc. Etc.you can continue playing this game every year… “Reasons why you should wait…“
I've been doing that since 2018. No, that's not correct. I actually never even think about getting a new phone. There's no point (for me).you can continue playing this game every year… “Reasons why you should wait…“
Depends, opportunity cost. If I skip 3-4 generations I can invest that $600/year into stocks like AAPL or index funds like QQQM. I haven't seen a reason to go from 13PM to 14PM or 15PM and it's looking like 16PM will be a skip too. Ever since 5G was introduced in the 12 lineup, upgrades have been incredibly incremental. You might as well call the 15 the 12SSS...To me, it's kind of crazy not to. You trade in your current one and pay half the cost of a new one. I pay basically $600/year.
I don't think there is anything wrong with S24 ultra's anti reflective display/WIFI 7 or telephoto camera + 120hz LTPO display on their base models at the moment. these are hardware features (not half baked software features like their AI) that iPhone is probably going to lack for at least another two years.Then wait another 3-4 years and Samsung's features will work properly.
Right? Seems like 17Pro is too 'around the corner' for this... You never know, of course. I'm considering upgrading this year from my 14PM, but not a fan of upgrading annually, and would def be interested this tech. I heard elsewhere that 17 Pro will have a smaller dynamic island than what's currently there, but this is the first time I'm reading about the underdisplay tech for 17...Yeah I wouldn't count on that at all. Seems odd for them to even include this in the article. Apple has been working on this since at least the iPhone XS and probably well before iPhone X even debuted. It is a moving target that is highly dependent on the technology catching up. They not only need to move the camera itself below the display without compromising its quality (which no one else has managed to do), but the complicated sensor suite too. Eventually? Yes. But soon? No sign of it.
If you want a pinhole you know what you need to doDitch the dynamic island already. A pinhole is 10x better.
Well since in the past year they claimed the 16 would have it, who knows? Maybe by the 23So what are the odds that 17Pro will actually have under-display Face ID?
Did they? I don't recall, but not saying they didn't obvs. I guess they might as well just give it to usWell since in the past year they claimed the 16 would have it, who knows? Maybe by the 23
Interesting on how this pans out
Apple's iPhone development roadmap runs several years into the future and the company is continually working with suppliers on several successive iPhone models concurrently, which is why we sometimes get rumored feature leaks so far ahead of launch. The iPhone 17 series is no different, and already we have some idea of what to expect from Apple's 2025 smartphone lineup.
![]()
If you plan to skip this year's iPhone 16, or if you're just plain curious about what's on the horizon, here are 10 rumored features that we are expecting to arrive in time for its successor, the iPhone 17 series, which is likely to be released in September 2025.
1. Under-Display Face ID
iPhone 17 Pro & iPhone 17 Pro Max
The iPhone 17 Pro is expected to be the first iPhone to feature under-panel Face ID technology. The only external indication of the under-display Face ID technology will likely be a circular cutout for the front-facing camera. This will probably be Apple's last premium model to include a circular cutout for the front-facing camera. Apple is then expected adopt under-display cameras in 2027's "Pro" iPhone models for a true "all-screen" appearance.
2. New Display Sizes
iPhone 17 & iPhone 17 Plus
This year's iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max are rumored to be getting bigger display sizes, going from 6.12- and 6.69-inches to 6.27- and 6.86-inches, respectively. For 2025, Apple is also expected to bring the larger 6.27-inch display size to its standard iPhone model, while the equivalent "iPhone 17 Plus" model could adopt completely new display dimensions.
3. 120Hz ProMotion (Always-on Display)
iPhone 17 & iPhone 17 Plus
Apple intends to expand ProMotion to its standard models in 2025, allowing them to ramp up to a 120Hz refresh rate for smoother scrolling and video content when necessary. Notably, ProMotion would also enable the display on the iPhone 17 and iPhone 17 Plus to ramp down to a more power-efficient refresh rate as low as 1Hz, allowing for an always-on display that can show the Lock Screen's clock, widgets, notifications, and wallpaper even when the device is locked.
4. Apple-Designed Wi-Fi 7 Chip
iPhone 17 Pro & iPhone 17 Pro Max
Apple's premium 2025 models are expected to be equipped with an Apple-designed Wi-Fi 7 chip for the first time. Wi-Fi 7 support would allow the "Pro" models to send and receive data over the 2.4GHz, 5GHz, and 6GHz bands simultaneously with a supported router, resulting in faster Wi-Fi speeds, lower latency, and more reliable connectivity. The Wi-Fi chip would also allow Apple to further reduce its dependance on external suppliers like Broadcom, which currently supplies Apple with a combined Wi-Fi and Bluetooth chip for iPhones.
5. 48MP Telephoto Lens
iPhone 17 Pro Max
An upgraded 48-megapixel Telephoto lens on Apple's largest premium device is expected to be optimized for use with Apple's upcoming Vision Pro headset, which launches on February 2, 2024. (The current iPhone 15 Pro models feature 48-megapixel main, 12-megapixel ultra wide, and 12-megapixel telephoto lenses.) That would make 2025's "Pro Max" the first iPhone to have a rear camera system composed entirely of 48-megapixel lenses, making it capable of capturing even more photographic detail.
6. 24MP Selfie Camera
All iPhone 17 Models
The iPhone 17 lineup will feature a 24-megapixel front-facing camera with a six-element lens, according to one rumor. The iPhone 14 and 15 feature a 12-megapixel front-facing camera with five plastic lens elements, and this year's iPhone 16 lineup is expected to feature the same hardware. The upgraded resolution to 24 megapixels on the iPhone 17 will allow photos to maintain their quality even when cropped or zoomed in, while the larger number of pixels will capture finer details. The upgrade to a six-element lens should also slightly enhance image quality.
7. Scratch Resistant Anti-Reflective Display
All iPhone 17 Models
The iPhone 17 will feature an anti-reflective display that is more scratch-resistant than Apple's Ceramic Shield found on iPhone 15 models, according to one rumor. The outer glass on the iPhone 17 is said to have a "super-hard anti-reflective layer" that is "more scratch-resistant." It's not clear whether Apple is planning to adopt the Gorilla Glass Armor that Samsung uses in its Galaxy S24 Ultra, but the description of Corning's latest technology matches the... Click here to read rest of article
Article Link: 10 Reasons to Wait for Next Year's iPhone 17
The odds are probably better with the 18 Pro since we’re hearing of a reduced size Dynamic Island exclusive to the 17 Pro Max.So what are the odds that 17Pro will actually have under-display Face ID?