10 reasons why you will regret getting the X over the 8 Plus

[iScone]

the notch is a flaw.

So you keep saying. That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. I think differently. The notch, as a device, is essential. Would you prefer no front facing camera? None of the other stuff? You don't like that it protrudes but you're quite happy to live with the ugly bezels you currently own on the Plus. Good for you. I wouldn't touch your phone with a barge pole. That's the beauty of having choice, right?

Now the X will have 5 flaws, protruding camera lense, no jack, notch, skinnier screen than the Plus and Face ID.

Better screen than the plus, in terms of quality. No bezels. Better camera. Face ID will be fine (you've no reason to think otherwise at this time). Protruding camera lens isn't a flaw, it's a style you don't like. No headphone jack, fine whatever.

Like I said in my OP, you've been warned. That is all.

Oh, give us all a break. You don't get to "warn" anyone. We all know what we're in for. We all have our preferences and we'll choose accordingly. You'll stick with your Plus and I'll get a better phone

 

[zone23]

You are clearly someone who has never touch anything but iPhone. I think you will appreciate a phone that fits in you hand and doesn't weight 10#s. You will probably like that you can reach more of the screen because its skinnier, but you have a ways to go before you figure that out.

 

[Chevelle]

even if they were the same price I think I'd want the 8 plus. I think I'm going to pre order one through ATT to replace my 7 plus. I love the form factor. Just wanna up the specs.

 

[bambooshots]

Your first couple of points were good but then it seemed like you started being dramatic.

 

[Apple_Robert]

You came up with 10 subjective reasons not to buy a phone that hasn't even been released. Not very logical.

Are you and many others around here that mad at Apple, that you feel a need to try and push people to your subjective side of thinking? Why is it bothering you, that many people are excited about the iPhone X, even though you don't like it?

Looks to me like you tried to make some kind of 'I told you so' thread, so that you can use your subjective illogical post as some kind of gotcha victory on a forum.

Did you notice I used the word subjective several times? I did that to make a point. Your point of view is just that, a point of view. Accept that others disagree with you and move on with life.

 

[Faelan]

From what I’ve gathered over the past couple of days, looks mean a lot to people....not actually what the phone can do. Some people act as if the bezels and design of the 8 somehow stop the phone from working. At the end of the day, both phones will work and do what you need it to do. They’re all just shiny black screens.

And then we slap it in some case because we're oh so afaid of breaking that shiny black screen and they all end up looking the same... and we still somehow end up breaking them anyway - hah. Oh, but I have the GOLD iPhone. Yeah, mate... I can just see a sliver of that near the charging port and power button cutout. Good for you. Hehe. Or you slap it in one of those awful clear plastic cases that just makes the whole thing look cheap as all hell regardless of how much money you threw at it.

Case or no case. It'll be easy to spot the X owners though. They're the ones who are going to be making goofy looking faces at their phones because... animoji. It'll be glorious... and I'm not trying to be all negative about it. Anything that makes using a phone more fun is a win-win in my estimation and this world could use more fun and laughter. I just find it amusing that it's advertised as a selling feature. Like they had to come up with something cool in order to sell us on this whole face ID thing.

Anyway, let's be honest. Smartphones are no longer status symbols unless you're a teenager or living in a 3rd world country. If you think they are, you're just deluding yourself or surrounding yourself with the wrong kind of people. To the average Joe, they're just tools that we rely on to get through our daily lives. And that's why I want the 8+. It's a beast of a tool compared to my 6+ with its almost crippling 1GB RAM and unlike the X, it doesn't make compromises in order to look better.

 

[9512tacoma]

No doubt the price is a lot for the X. I have always been on subsidized iPhones since 3GS. So $200 or $300 for last 6s. Sticker shock now paying full price but I can't see $700 for a 8 since is so similar to my 6s. When I changed my plan with Att I saved around $40 a month and the X64g will run $33 on att next so I basically come out slightly ahead from a month to month standpoint. None of the iPhones are a great price unless you get a model that has been out several years. Apple has offered us all variety now compared to the past and at different price points so all can buy an iPhone

 

[pcorrado]

The one truly valid point (for me) is the screen width / ratio compared to the plus. I have used a plus for 3 years (all models) and I am used to the benefits of that ratio (larger text in forums like this for example). I am very torn myself. I want that new hotness (I love the X design) but I love the experience of the Plus. That said the plus is a big phone and a bit hard to hold at times.

If only the X was right in between the width of the 8 and the 8+.

Apple is making it very hard for me to give them a $1000.

 

[patricem]

Touch ID never seems to work for me. I need FaceID. Lift the phone up, turns on, swipe. I need that for real. Touch ID I do over and over, doesnt work, then I have to enter code, all day long. Yes the colors suck, I want rosey gold. But I'll get a nice pretty case. The 8+ is $949, the X is $999, yes different storage capabilities, but everyone keeps saying it's so much more expensive, but I see only $50 more. I dont really get that. I want X.

 

[DConroy]

1- As a Plus owner since the 6, I'll welcome essentially the same screen size as the plus in a smaller form factor. That smaller form factor will trump any slight loss in width.
2. Its been a bit unsettling to look at the notch in the demos. But I'm positive, within two weeks I won't even notice it anymore. When you first learn to drive, the rearview mirror is an obstruction in your view, but do you notice it now?
3. Wow this seems like such a nitpick. I don't care about this now, nor will I at any time.
4. At one time I scoffed at the original iPhone. No buttons? A soft keyboard will never replace the feel of keys! I bought it anyway, and laugh when I think about how I thought about it. Many people thought no one would use Siri because no one would want to walk around talking to your phone. Any awkwardness about the home button will melt away quickly.
5. This is ridiculous. There is no way on earth they developed FaceId in a few months once figuring out that touch Id wouldn't work under the front glass. FaceID has likely been in development for years. Its way too complex to not have been. The engineering to cram all those sensors in the "notch" alone probably took months. They more than likely wanted to offer both features as a manner of transition, or choice, and the compromise ended up being that they had to chose the fullscreen or touchID and elected to push their progression early.
6. Been using the plus phones since they arrived. Reachability only does so much. Two handed use is already a thing for some uses of the phone. It will be less of a factor with a smaller physical size.
7. Users may get over Animojis quickly, but the developer integration is where it will skyrocket. The snapchat filters alone. I don't use that app, but I can recognize that it will be HUGE. Other 3rd party apps will quickly find uses as well.
8. I wanted my six in space gray, but I would have had to wait six weeks for delivery. I found the new gold(at the time) available in store and got that, despite hating the color. Know why? My phone spends 99.9% of its life in a case and I don't see the backing color save for the cutouts around the camera.
9. Under the IUP, the X is only 10/month more. For anyone that buys outright, or other installment plans that require 18months, etc, I can see why it might make you pause. If my 7 wasn't on the IUP, I likely wouldn't even looking to upgrade this cycle at all.
10. There's some truth to this. But was also true of the first iphone, and the 4, but that didn't stop anyone.

Thanks for the "warning", but I'll be just fine with my choice. And if not, I can return it and get an 8+.

 

[bufffilm]

I'm not the ideal customer. I have very high expectations and I am very difficult to please. It just happens that Apple exceeds my expectations at the moment, in all areas, and they delight me with both the attention to detail of the products, and the unrivalled customer service and care.

Well, I hope when you get the iPhone X...it lives up to your lofty expectations.

Because it doesn't live up to mine.

There was only a small chance of me buying/ordering one before the keynote and zero chance of me buying/ordering it, after the keynote.

But hey...enjoy the ipX. Hope you like it as much as I like my 6s.

 

[applesith]

Blah blah blah another thread of someone telling people how to think and telling people what they should like. Just buy what you want. No need to make these dramatic efforts "to save people from making a bad decision".

 

[bambooshots]

I was real excited to get whatever new iphone Apple was releasing this year. After thinking about it for a while, I might just be keeping my 6S Plus. But I feel no need to create a "I'm Keeping My 6S Plus, and Here's Why" thread.

Some people are just looking for attention. Maybe they don't get enough in the real world.

 

[Ralfi]

No matter what's added to this force-my-opinion-on-you discussion, there's no reasonable discourse imminent.

Everyone's made up their minds before devices are even in their hands & putting down others for even considering an alternate model.

This place....

 

[GlenK]

plus is too big for me. i dont even need to compare them.

I thought this too when I first saw the measurements of the screens. But when looking at the measurements of the entire phone there's not much difference between the X and the 7 (not 7+, just the regular 7). The length of the 7 is 5.44", the X is 5.65". So the X is only .21" longer than the 7. It's the screen that's much bigger than the 7, not the whole phone.

I haven't decided what I'm doing yet but this does give me pause for more thought.

 

[MrGimper]

1- As a Plus owner since the 6, I'll welcome essentially the same screen size as the plus in a smaller form factor. That smaller form factor will trump any slight loss in width.
2. Its been a bit unsettling to look at the notch in the demos. But I'm positive, within two weeks I won't even notice it anymore. When you first learn to drive, the rearview mirror is an obstruction in your view, but do you notice it now?
3. Wow this seems like such a nitpick. I don't care about this now, nor will I at any time.
4. At one time I scoffed at the original iPhone. No buttons? A soft keyboard will never replace the feel of keys! I bought it anyway, and laugh when I think about how I thought about it. Many people thought no one would use Siri because no one would want to walk around talking to your phone. Any awkwardness about the home button will melt away quickly.
5. This is ridiculous. There is no way on earth they developed FaceId in a few months once figuring out that touch Id wouldn't work under the front glass. FaceID has likely been in development for years. Its way too complex to not have been. The engineering to cram all those sensors in the "notch" alone probably took months. They more than likely wanted to offer both features as a manner of transition, or choice, and the compromise ended up being that they had to chose the fullscreen or touchID and elected to push their progression early.
6. Been using the plus phones since they arrived. Reachability only does so much. Two handed use is already a thing for some uses of the phone. It will be less of a factor with a smaller physical size.
7. Users may get over Animojis quickly, but the developer integration is where it will skyrocket. The snapchat filters alone. I don't use that app, but I can recognize that it will be HUGE. Other 3rd party apps will quickly find uses as well.
8. I wanted my six in space gray, but I would have had to wait six weeks for delivery. I found the new gold(at the time) available in store and got that, despite hating the color. Know why? My phone spends 99.9% of its life in a case and I don't see the backing color save for the cutouts around the camera.
9. Under the IUP, the X is only 10/month more. For anyone that buys outright, or other installment plans that require 18months, etc, I can see why it might make you pause. If my 7 wasn't on the IUP, I likely wouldn't even looking to upgrade this cycle at all.
10. There's some truth to this. But was also true of the first iphone, and the 4, but that didn't stop anyone.

Thanks for the "warning", but I'll be just fine with my choice. And if not, I can return it and get an 8+.

The TrueDepth camera system is NOT FaceID ... FaceID is a feature of the TrueDepth camera system
No-one is saying they put together the whole system in a short space of time. It's not inconceivable that they put the authentication part of it together in a short space of time tho. The way things have been with recent releases, the main point of it was probably the Animoji!

 

[stabile007]

I think no matter what direction one goes there will be regrets. The X has a beautiful screen I am sure; the FaceID while I have concerns now I think will work quite well (though I wish they would make the swipe to unlock go away), And frankly I think the form factor is perfect you have a Plus size screen on a 4.7" body which is great IMO. Buuuut the 8 is cheaper, its more broken in design wise, TouchID will work exactly as I am used to and expect it to, the screen ratio is a currently better supported.

I mean I look at these things like any other high end phone. They are not terrible devices there is just specific aspects I either like or don't like. Overall though they are all good. I think whatever one people choose they will be happy at their choice buuuut maybe in some areas wonder in the back of their mind if they should have gone the other way. Fortunatly a year isn't that long of a wait. You can always do IUP and switch out then if you are not sure

 

[5105973]

I am a little worried that I'll find the X's display too narrow in landscape mode. That's something I experience now when watching video or using landscape mode for other things on my S8+. It's one of the reasons, besides bothersome reflections from the curvy glass, that I have come to automatically grab my 7Plus for video viewing despite the stunning beauty of my S8+ AMOLED display.

The notch IS distracting to me.

Those are two points my husband and I batted back and forth as he persuaded me to NOT preorder an iPhone 8 Plus and wait for an X instead.

It's going to be a long wait, but I am at least persuaded the X will be an experience worth trying during the two week return period. I'm hoping I'll be won over and decide to keep it, as I would hate to utilize my return option on a product that is not defective. But it might be necessary if Apple made too many decisions that compromise my user experience.

On the other hand, I hate losing out time with the 8 Plus which I see as such a winning refinement over a user experience I already love in the 7 Plus.

At any rate, I need to see and hold at least one of these phones in person to get clarity on any of the perceptions I've formed in simply reading and watching videos of other people's fleeting impressions about them.

 

[Marshall73]

At point 3, you're gonna be touching the screen more than ever with an X. Better buy yourself a wholesale box of wipes.

eh? I meant that when holding the phone your fingers wrap round the sides a bit so having a slight bezel is beneficial compared to a phone with curved edges that go all the way to the sides so that you are not covering any of the display whilst holding the phone.

 

[Bethanie21]

1 Screen size

If you're upgrading from the 6/6S/7, then the screen size of the X will simply be stretched. If however you're upgrading from a Plus model, your screen will be narrower, albeit longer. This to me is a deal breaker. I am a Plus owner, I don't want to be watching media on a narrower but stretched screen.

2 The notch.

Have you ever had dinner with someone and as they're talking to you you lose focus of what they're saying because you noticed they have sauce or food stuck to the side of their lip? Well the notch is not too dissimilar. My eyes are drawn to it. If it bothers me, it will bother you. To those who say it won't bother you, you haven't got the device yet.

3 It is not edge to edge display

I still see bezels. They may be thinner, but they're still there. Rumours early on suggested the X would be like a slate of glass. Sorry, but it's not. Far from it. There are bezels there. Throw in the notch, throw in the black borders that the software will put in, throw in the narrower screen size to the Plus, and you're not really watching content on this magnifificent edge to edge giant screen, are you? You will be disappointed.

4 No home button

For 10 years you have used the home button. Up until the 5, it was a push and then a slide across. From the 5s, it was simply a push. Worked beautifully. I myself never registered all of my fingers for touch ID, I never registered my two little fingers, so if I just wanted to see the time or a notification without opening the phone, I'd use my little finger. That will be no more with the X. Now you got to get used to making sure the phone sees you, wait a little bit, then swipe up. Don't underestimate how this will force you to change your habits, when you''re driving, when you're in a meeting, when you're half asleep or in any situation when you shouldn't be looking at your phone. You will not be able to discreetly unlock your X. Think about it, for 10 years you touched a button, now you got to look at it, wait a couple of seconds, and swipe up. I'm sure there will be many other instances which will play out when you use the device.

5 Face ID

Following on from point 4, Face ID was not Apple's preference. It is simply the technology Apple had to fall back on when they realised that their preference would not be workable in time for the launch. They wanted touch ID under the screen. This in itself is an admission from Apple that touching your phone is still the best and securest method to unlock your phone, though Apple will never publicly admit it, except of course when screen touch id is available in a future phone and they will spend half the keynote talking about how it pisses all over Face ID. Apple wanted screen touch id, we all wanted screen touch id , but not to be. Instead, you will be getting a product which Apple added as a compromise. Basically, if Apple could have got screen touch ID to work, it would have been in the X. Samsung couldn't get touch screen ID to work, so it put the touch ID button at the back. Apple couldn't get screen touch id to work, so it went with Face id. What's the difference, they are both inferior compromises? The 8 Plus will still have the trusty home button with touch ID that you have all grown to love.

6 Two handed use

When the 6 Plus was released 3 years ago, this place was in meltdown about the iPhone no longer being a one handed device. Well the X will take it to another level. The screen is now longer, yes shorter bezels at the top and bottom, but unbelievably, the X won't come with reachability. Expect to see that back in a future software update or device once Apple realises that they screwed up in getting rid of reachability. But, and this is a huge but, you have to swipe down right of the notch for control centre and left of the notch for notifications. Good luck with your one handed use X owners.

7 Specs

There is alot of similarities between the 8 Plus and the X. Both will have similar cameras, the same glass back, wireless charging, same storage capacity, same water resistant rating, both will have 3 gigs of ram, both will have the same A11 chip and both will have augmented reality. To me, the only benefit you're gonna get with the X over the 8 Plus is a little bit more with the camera and Animojis. But the 8 Plus camera will be a beast and I'm tipping after 2 weeks, if not 2 days, X users will over the animojis. But you see, the 8 Plus will have its own advantages, a wider screen and touch id. Honestly, is the X that much of a superior device?

8 Colours

Not a biggy, but the gold colour the 8s will come in is probably the sleekest colour I have seen on an iphone. It looks magnificent. For those who still see the iphone as a fashion accessory, which I personally don't, you won't get the X in that colour.

9 Price.

The X will be the most expensive iphone in history. If you live in Australia like me, you'll be forking out $1,800 for the 256g model. That is not only insane, it is a rip off. If you want to fork out that much for a phone with a narrower screen than a Plus, a notch which will block your content, a device you cannot use with one hand, no trusted touch id home button and Face Id which was Apple's second choice because it was not good enough to make screen id work, then be my guest, you've got more dollars than sense.

10 First Gen

It is a first gen device. Buyer beware. Beware beware beware. I'm sure in years to come the notch will go, reachability will be back, the bezels will be thinner, the width of the screen will be equal to the Plus and touch id will be back bigger and better than ever, under the screen.. and then I will get myself an X...but until then, beware the X.

You have been warned.

Agree with everything. Of course, those who disagree will cite 'bezels' and 'old tech', like a broken record. Are bezels really that bad? They don't bother me, and I don't think they make the phone look old.

I'll let Apple rework the X, put TouchID back into it and refine the rest, and see what they produce in the future. I'm 100% happy I've chosen the 8, it'll be a great upgrade from my 6S. And yes, I can afford the X, but a grand for a smartphone is absolutely ludicrous. More money than sense.

 

[thedropout]

I think we can all agree that everyone would rather have a phone without a notch at the top. However there are people who can live with the notch and get over it and there are those who cant or dont want to. Neither is wrong but it is not an optimal design. Its obviously going to sell out because its apple. I just hope that doesnt stunt the growth of the apple phones because they think that people want that to stick with that design.

 

[MacFinnley]

I think the notch is absolutely intended. You know, it‘s iconic like the home button. You see it and you know it‘s an iPhone.

 

[rmarinheira]

After reading this thread it is curious the direction the whole trhead took.
It is perfectly reasonable for a user to do a list of the reasons why he considers iPhone X negative (or less positive) points.
And it would be perfectly normal that users with opposite opinions to list their reasons why the thnk iPhone X will be a good purchase.

What I honestly don't understand is how people use arguments like "you are just making excuses becaus you won't be able to get the X, so you have to get reasons to feel happy with your crappy iPhone 8".

Guys, this is ridiculous! If you worship the X and will buy it, just state your reasons, don't use ****** arguments.

Like one user said, before the keynote I was definetely going to buy the X, during the keynote and specially the game and video demos I started to reconsider and right now I am definetely buyt the 8 (reserved and will be delivered on the 22nd).
And no, it's not cost-wise.
Just decided that way due to some important factors to me:

1. The notch. Give a display some vertical extra dimension to the spoil a whole strip with sensors, leaving two "ears" in which it is even difficult to get status information like battrery, network coverage and other (information is just too cramped) is, for me, a stupid decision. Watching a video fullscreen and getting an area of the display hidden behinf the notch is a deal braker for me. Yes, I can watch it with no zoom, but that way I 'll end up wiuth a screen size comparable to the 8.

2. Oled. That allmighty technology Apple reassures to be way better than the ususal existing Oleds. I was a Smasung user for long years and Oled technology is, not that great. Yes, blacks are really black, contrast ration is huge! But whites are no white and more, if you have a white backgorund you won't be able o get color conistency all over the display. You will se difrerently colored areas. It's that way. It's technology relatede. "Yeah, but Apple jus took it to another level and improved the technology...". forget it. They are buying Samsung displayus and they arent even the latest generation. Those are reserved for S8 and Note8.

3. No home button /Touch ID. That's bad (to me, again). And it's no news that Apple tried it indeed to have touch id integrated into the display. Face ID? Yes, it is a back up plan, developed in case the touch ID failed to be able integradted into the display. And thos argunents stating Apple won't have time to develop the technology.... The did not developed the technology. It was already developed by two companies Apple bought a while back. It was simply perfected and integrated.

These are just merely opinions of someone that looks at the models available and analyzes the features according to my needs and likings.
For me, the X is indeed the Apple flagship but the drawbacks (again, for my case) are just too much.
We will definetely see the notch disappear as technologi allows other solutions to incorporatoe camera and sensors, which will have great impact on the interface (and wil llead to some steps back).
Aside that, I believe Touch ID will return, integrated on the display, which, agina, will imply some steps back regarding the interface).
iPhone X is a, for me, like a concept phone, with some experimetnal solutions that will hardly remain.

In this regards, I am playing safe, and I am choosing the 8.
The bezels are useful for landscape use, the display is just perfect for my use. And design wise, I prefer aluminum as opposed to SS (hate shiny finishes and the correspondent scratches over time).

Oh, and to me, the near bezel less display is without doubt interesting to see, but in order for the phone to be usable Apple had to move up the keyboar so it is possible to hold the phone withou tpressing some keys. In practice, that extra screen real estate do not correspoonds to usable space at all.

To end this endless post, take this with a grain of salt.
We must not accept all the arguments the brands try to sell us.
I consider Apple products to be great (I have a macbook, will get the iPhone 8 and an Apple Watch), from hardware to software integration and little details that are just delicious and make usabiçlity just great. But at the same time I am reasonable enough not to accept all Apple wants us to accept wthou at least think a minute or two about it.

Hope the discussion keeps useful!


Cheers!

 

[teeshot44]

1 Screen size

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You have been warned.

Please change the title of this thread to remove the word "you" and replace it with "I" You're not speaking for me and I'm one of the "You's" you seem to be referring to.

 

[Seth Matthews]

You can dream up all the excuses in the world to console yourself that you are not getting an iPhone X, but deep down you know the iPhone X is the best smartphone Apple has ever made. Any lesser model you choose is inferior - end of story.

This is just as ridiculous as what he said. End of story.