10-Year-Old Unlocks Face ID on His Mother's iPhone X as Questionable Mask Spoofing Surfaces

[Mildredop]

If you fear for your security, FaceID AND TouchID are poor choices. Go with a very long, secure password. Quit crying.

But this just isn't practical. Putting in a long password everytime I unlock my phone would be infuriating. Most people have a 4 digit passcode which is very easy to see someone input.

Touch ID is undoubtedly the most secure in real world use with Face ID most likely almost as secure.

 

[bluush]

Sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night in a cold sweat, then a calm wave rushes over my body as I remember I still have an iPhone with a headphone jack and Touch ID.

 

[Baymowe335]

Sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night in a cold sweat, then a calm wave rushes over my body as I remember I still have an iPhone with a headphone jack and Touch ID.

I do the same with my BetaMax and CD player.

 

[vvs14]

Can the face ID be set up for multiple people? Touch ID could be set up for multiple fingers which means you can give multiple people access to your device. Can you do something similar with Face ID?

 

[rishic89]

Restore your iPhone. Assuming you've backed up from an older iPhone
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Ive said it from the start. Face ID sucks. It fails on me all the time even after several resets, I hate it. I want touch ID back.

Restore iPhone to new. Assuming you've backed up from an older iPhone. The software can be buggy. Just save your contacts/photos and anything else important

 

[jntdroid]

On paper, Face ID might be more secure than Touch ID - or at least statistically harder to break. But the fact of the matter is Touch ID is going to be more consistent by nature, meaning that in a lot of ways it is still more secure than Face ID.

 

[280428055]

I was OK with paying $1200 for this thing, but the hidden cost of hunting down and killing all of my doppelgangers is getting out of hand.

 

[Braderunner]

Only one face can be registered, and two people unlocked the device, on camera. No tricks. What else is there to understand about that. The mum and son are totally credible. The FaceID technology is flawed.
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Only one face can be registered, two people unlocked the device. That shouldn't be possible. Their faces are completely different, she's got an oval head, he has a round head.

Face ID can be tricked. When you intentionally trick it...
Like I said. More to the story. Or, maybe I just like to think independently.
You should read up on how exactly Face ID works. Not just the setup process.
Well...maybe read up on how two similar faces could be used during the setup, since the phone does two scans.
Also, I wonder why no one shows the part where they set up Face ID (it takes a few seconds) then hand the phone to the other person.
Hmmmmmm

 

[rishic89]

Can the face ID be set up for multiple people? Touch ID could be set up for multiple fingers which means you can give multiple people access to your device. Can you do something similar with Face ID?

No. The calculus involved in FACE ID doesn't allow this cause math is an exact science. 23+2=25 every single time.

 

[cycomiko]

Quick everyone, defend the Apple kinect

 

[catportal]

No. The calculus involved in FACE ID doesn't allow this cause math is an exact science. 23+2=25 every single time.

That doesn't make any sense. FaceID's are basically some algorithm that maps the set of projected dot diffs to some hash value that is used as a seed to a private key in the secure element that can decrypt the device. You could easily have multiple mappings to the private key (like you have with Touch ID).

 

[jarman92]

Regardless if true or not, in practical real world usuage, Face ID is not more secure than Touch ID. Facts.

What exactly about your totally unsupported and unsubstantiated statement counts as "facts?"

 

[Chupa Chupa]

Regardless if true or not, in practical real world usuage, Face ID is not more secure than Touch ID. Facts.

Facts? Sure show us some based on scientifically conducted tests.

 

[MarcoB]

FaceMagooID stinks high heaven. You paid 1k thinking it was the best. Where are the lawsuits?

 

[bluush]

I do the same with my BetaMax and CD player.

That's a hard stretch to justify buying an inferior phone lol

 

[Wanted797]

“and were just done setting up the Face IDs”

So it was just setup and only have one scan of the face then sees a relative.

Do these people realise how machine learning works?

 

[ramallite]

The resemblance between the mother and her child is uncanny. In the end, a "touch ID" will only be secure insofar as fingerprints are unique, whereas "face ID" will only be secure to the extent that faces are unique. As many mentioned above, perhaps codes should be enabled, or else, Apple could introduce an update where the Face ID feature is "trained" to accept one face but reject a similar-looking face (I'm sure the child will comply if he still wants his allowance). Genetically close individuals are likely to have features similar enough to trick the Face ID feature. Apple acknowledges as much.

 

[Chupa Chupa]

Can the face ID be set up for multiple people? Touch ID could be set up for multiple fingers which means you can give multiple people access to your device. Can you do something similar with Face ID?

No. Just one Face per phone. It's one of the weak points I suppose and will have to be tweaked to support this IMHO before it comes to iPad and Mac for sure.

 

[ConfusedChris]

The device knows the distance to the face it is scanning? It should be able to see that the kid’s face is smaller.

 

[ramallite]

I was OK with paying $1200 for this thing, but the hidden cost of hunting down and killing all of my doppelgangers is getting out of hand.

Should be an app for that... !

 

[jarman92]

Face ID is much more secure than Touch ID*

*except when it isn't

Touch ID was "fooled" like a day after it was released, and repeatedly thereafter using different techniques. I remember at least one instance where a fake fingerprint was constructed from a photo of someone's hand. Nothing in this article or this forum proves or even suggests Face ID is less secure than Touch ID.

None of these biometrics are supposed to be 100% secure, and nobody claims that they are. If the only way to trick Face ID is with a genetic duplicate (identical twin), direct offspring (this woman's son), or $150 in materials and hours/days of hands-on time with the phone, the system is more secure than 99.99% of us need.

 

[apolloa]

Soooo basically you’re being hyperbolic as usual.

Ok, can twins unlock your Touch ID then?

I mean we have quite a few videos showing Face ID being beaten by twins, this is a system they want you to use for Apple Pay, you know that Apple system that is linked to your bank account. And you proclaim it to ‘hyperbolic’.....

Let’s not fo get those banking apps that use Face ID like Touch ID...

I wouldn’t call it ‘hyperbolic’.

 

[maverick2007]

6 years of innovation taking apple back to 6 year! What a fail ID

 

[citysnaps]

Astonished (not really) on how so many get frothed up over a suspect story lacking both information and context.

Guess for some people it's easier to throw curiosity and the demand for journalistic rigor out the window in order to get that Apple dig in.

Why be fussy? Just accept everything on the internet as true.

Sure makes life easier not having to think too hard and demand well-sourced/corroborated information.

 

[ramallite]

Speaking of setting up Face ID, I noted (too late) as I was setting mine up that my eyes kept staring in the direction my head was moving as I did the circular motion (up, right, down, left). On Apple's demo pages, the model they have keeps staring straight at the iPhone's camera while setting up Face ID regardless of the direction of his head movement. I wonder if that plays a role in better accuracy.