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Some kids are enamoured with the "new" iPhone X and are all too willing to buy mods for the games they play. If a kid's face could authenticate an App store purchase; well, you see the problem.

Easy fix there -- don't leave a CC on file in the iTunes Store. I don't even have kids and I don't have a card on file for security reasons. If I need to buy something I have iTunes cards I can scan in. Also iOS has all sorts of additional locks and limits on purchases if you enable them.
 
As many people wrote, Face ID is a 1st generation feature. Same counted once for Touch ID. But there‘s one difference - at least for the issues reported mainly throughout the media now and back than:

Touch ID failure almost always meant no recognition and though no access to the device even for its owner. For Face ID it‘s he exact other way round -additional, non permitted people singet access. This is creating awareness, justified or not.

Nevertheless I strongly believe in this technology, even already today.

Sums it up perfectly I think, great post. I want to know in say two months time if twins can still unlock the X with their faces with no issue for instance, or will it learn the face?
 
The same Face ID security paper states that the probability of a false match is higher among children under the age of 13, because their distinct facial features may not have fully developed. Given the child is only 10 years old, and Apple's information, what's shown in the video isn't a surprising flaw.
Isn’t this exactly one cohort of people who shouldn’t be able to unlock a phone?
 
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Easy fix there -- don't leave a CC on file in the iTunes Store. I don't even have kids and I don't have a card on file for security reasons. If I need to buy something I have iTunes cards I can scan in. Also iOS has all sorts of additional locks and limits on purchases if you enable them.

Not arguing at all. Just mentioning a fear for some folks. I have Apple Pay on my iPhone X, and luckily, my kid's face doesn't work on my Face ID.
 
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It is the usual compromise for security vs convenience. Face ID and Touch ID are both convenience features, suitable for providing security for average use. If you were using it for classified data, sure something different would be required.

As for being spoofed, I am sure it is possible. It comes as no shock. Really it is whether such a spoof is feasible for what it will access, particularly given the phone will revert to a passcode if it fails.
 
If you fear for your security, FaceID AND TouchID are poor choices. Go with a very long, secure password. Quit crying.
Most valid words spoken about the issue. Also, “The most secure” option is not keeping your most sensitive information on a mobile device which makes it even an option for someone else to possess and even trust to access your info.
 
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The device knows the distance to the face it is scanning? It should be able to see that the kid’s face is smaller.
It can tell the distance (edit: relative size) by the spacing of the dots it projects.
Edit: along with the selfie camera sensor/s it would be able to measure the size of the face?
 
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Anyone going to suggest that they could pass as twins (I'm not) ? That's the usual excuse people use so far with FaceID.
 
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people go nuts over apple products even when they don,t work properly

this is insane, i'm so happy I left the apple boat after 30 yrs of non-stop mac use

I'd be tired of a product too if that's all I did for 24/7/10,950. How did you say awake that long?
 
Why won't any of these people make a video and not leave out the part where they set up Face ID, then hand the phone to the other person?
Awfully convenient that part is being left out of all these videos. o_O :confused: :eek:
I mean, if they're being honest....
 
So the moral of the story is be wary of your children and of your doppelgangers, so nothing has really changed...
 
That’s never going to happen. You can even quote me if you desire.
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Nah I wouldn’t want to go backwards

I sent mine back, the only thing that really interested me was the display. Also that's your opinion. Willing to bet a 1080P OLED iPhone 8 would outsell a X pretty easily.
 
Yeah, I'm not worried about it. Sure the demonstration is in an extreme case. I mean like one would have to kidnap me, try to basically put plaster over my face unless they basically killed me first so then I wouldn't resist struggle. They then need to print out my face with my eyes open, then cut it out just like the demo and unlock it and try to look for whatever is important to them. I mean really? I would NOT let anyone plaster my face for one thing so good luck on that. So, go ahead STEAL my phone, they will never unlock it. They would need to steal me but who's going to steal me, or hold me at gun point or try to kill me because they would have now a deeper criminal record. Is it really worth it? I mean ok fine you can successfully do that but unless you are a VERY HIGH value person that's got extreme info needed to access the phone, then but majority of us are not that high value. So, it's VERY VERY unpractical anyway. Hooray for unlocking the phone but I figured there's no one that looks like me anywhere near me anyway. Chances is very low, I'm confident enough with my phone. Besides, I've had my iPhone's since 3GS all the way up to iPhone 7, I've never had it stolen or taken away from me. It's just a game to me that they try to attempt it but what does it really prove in a real practical sense? Someone could shoot me and then unlock the phone using my finger or cut my finger off and take my phone and do whatever they need to do.
 
There is a clear resemblance between mom and the little one. But, the system should be far more precise. Again, first generation product with first generation problems. I hope they fix this...

By the way, I don't think the video is faked. I suspect we'll hear more stories like this one.

There are already others. Look on the 'Tube. They all seem to be similar in that they involve the second person looking similar, trying FaceID, it failing, they enter the passcode and after a few tries it works.
 
According to Apple, the chances that a random person can unlock your phone with FaceID is about one in a million. So if an iPhone X buyer has lets say two other people in their household on average, then for every 500,000 customers there will be one where someone else in the household can unlock their phone.
 
So this would be the thing about face id that would bother me if I had a sibling that looked similar or even children. Iris scanner, finger print, facial recognition are all able to be fooled, that doesn't bother me that much since someone would have to go through a decent amount of trouble to do it. But with the face id and family members being able to fool it.... there is not much effort put into that...it's just their face.
 
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