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WinX is showing that touch and mouse can exist in the same OS on the same device.

I'm also of the opinion it's time for Apple to take that leap. They've been making OS X more touch friendly for a couple of years now and it will be nice to see it pay off.

But I suspect we'll get an ARM-powered OS X before we get a Surface Pro competitor. Apple isn't going to stick an x86 processor in to a tablet.

I thought that Haswell would be fan-free, so it could do the tablet thing.
 
These both sound good. I'd like to see the quad speaker arrangement on all the iPads - maybe we will eventually.

The Mini rumor rocks. Honestly an A7 is fine, just slap a good LCD panel in it and I'll wait in line the first day to buy one. I'm tired of my Nexus 7 and the Air lacks the pixel density I like for reading. Interestingly, I compared watching videos on my Nexus 7 2013 and my 6+, and despite being smaller the 6+ is the one I go to due to the image quality. If Apple could match the 6+ display quality (not necessarily pixel density) across all of their mobile devices I believe iPad sales would stop slumping. :p
 
just like they did with the first generation ipad mini...so the next ipad mini generation will be significant upgrade

I agree. I'm counting on it actually. sooner than later I think. it will be bad for the Mini 3 buyers if Apple pulls a stunt like they did with the ipad 3, but I'm thinking they might. :rolleyes:
 
I thought that Haswell would be fan-free, so it could do the tablet thing.

Certain lower performing Haswell chips.

But I think Apple is getting as annoyed at Intel as they did at IBM in hitting roadmaps. The only way for Apple to know what will be available when is to provide it themselves.

So while a Haswell-based iPad that runs OS X and has an ARM processir to run iOS is possible, I see Apple moving everything to ARM sooner rather than later at this point.
 
So was iPad mini 3 more of a stopgap solution since Apple wanted to get Touch ID onto every line of iOS devices?

Is the iPad mini 3 basically another repeat of iPad 3?

Eventually you'll have a repeat of the iPad 3. Eventually Apple will want to shift the release of the iPad or iPhone to another month, maybe early summer for the iPhone or something like that. Sometimes, an important part may not be ready in time, but they still want to release something "new". They also don't want to wait a whole year to showcase that new feature so you get a minimal update, followed a few months later by a more significant update.
 
But I think Apple is getting as annoyed at Intel as they did at IBM in hitting roadmaps. The only way for Apple to know what will be available when is to provide it themselves.
You mean like white iPhones? :D

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Eventually you'll have a repeat of the iPad 3. Eventually Apple will want to shift the release of the iPad or iPhone to another month, maybe early summer for the iPhone or something like that. Sometimes, an important part may not be ready in time, but they still want to release something "new". They also don't want to wait a whole year to showcase that new feature so you get a minimal update, followed a few months later by a more significant update.

The current pattern has the advantage of being able to give developers a beta of the new iSO version in June at the WWDC and release it together with the phone four months later. Releasing the iPads at around the same time ensures that they don't need to sell devices with processors from different generations in parallel. Plus, the whole thing is anchored such that the holiday shopping season has very recent models.

Intel used to supply chips for a MBP update in the summer.
 
Problematic websites

I have a couple of websites which I cannot look at using my iPad. I end up having to use my MacBook Pro for these websites. Usually the issue is no flash support. I would like to go with a larger iPad screen, however it would be a requirement that I am able to look at every website.
 
The PC will not disappear in the future. There is no post-PC future, and there probably never will be.

The ideologically invented name-tag "post-PC era or future" is a gimmick from Apple when the iPad was launched.

Technically, Apple (Steve Jobs) never said PCs would disappear. And post-PC doesn't mean the death of the PC. He said PCs would become like trucks and iPads would become like cars. I'd have to agree. Mac and Windows are unnecessarily complex for most people.

Just as people bemoaned the transition from mainframes to minis, from minis to desktops, from DOS to GUIs, we're just going through the same transition to a post-PC world dominated by much simpler devices... and it makes some people nervous because they've vested a lot of time learning everything there is to know about PCs and their natural reaction is to keep the legacy stuff around as long as possible.
 
I wonder how popular it will be. The Air 2 U.S. the perfect size for me to hold in one hand and use. A bigger tablet would almost gave to be used on a desk it would seem
 
where's the wall??

The first pic I seen of this HUGE iPad was leaning on a wall. Does the wall come with every purchase? I really hope they add a kickstand to this iPad. Apple is stubborn and does not want to be accused of copying microsoft, but really, who cares at this point. Microsoft has copied sooooo much of apple over the years and the reality is..they beat apple to the punch with the kickstand and removable screen on the surface. This big iPad actually looks kind of ridiculous laying on a flat surface... lets see if apply takes a bite of humble pie and adds needed features like a kickstand.:eek:
 
Would love this to be a reality, just please no silly 16GB option! The storage should be 64, 128 and 256GB.

At this point the iOS ecosystem of apps, music, movies/TV, books, newspapers, magazines - is so developed that laptops and other devices and media can essentially be replaced for the majority of people - and larger storage options can only encourage it even further.
 
Would love this to be a reality, just please no silly 16GB option! The storage should be 64, 128 and 256GB.

At this point the iOS ecosystem of apps, music, movies/TV, books, newspapers, magazines - is so developed that laptops and other devices and media can essentially be replaced for the majority of people - and larger storage options can only encourage it even further.

For a device like this 32GB would be pushing it let alone 16GB which is the biggest joke in 2014. (I know it's not just Apple, however some have better pricing)
 
For a device like this 32GB would be pushing it let alone 16GB which is the biggest joke in 2014. (I know it's not just Apple, however some have better pricing)

Biggest joke on 2014? Pretty dumb comment.

For you and me yes.

1. There needs to be a cheaper model
2. While you may want every song, and app, and photo on your device, many use it to read books, watch websites/video and play some games. You can do this easily on a 16GB.
3. If you had an 8GB phone and all you do is call, text, FB, and use a few apps, you can also do that easily on 8GB.

You cannot create a comment and apply that to everyone or every device
 
The first pic I seen of this HUGE iPad was leaning on a wall. Does the wall come with every purchase? I really hope they add a kickstand to this iPad. Apple is stubborn and does not want to be accused of copying microsoft, but really, who cares at this point. Microsoft has copied sooooo much of apple over the years and the reality is..they beat apple to the punch with the kickstand and removable screen on the surface. This big iPad actually looks kind of ridiculous laying on a flat surface... lets see if apply takes a bite of humble pie and adds needed features like a kickstand.:eek:

Otherwise people will have to keeping using Microsoft Surfaces as kickstands for their iPads.
 
Biggest joke on 2014? Pretty dumb comment.

For you and me yes.

1. There needs to be a cheaper model
2. While you may want every song, and app, and photo on your device, many use it to read books, watch websites/video and play some games. You can do this easily on a 16GB.
3. If you had an 8GB phone and all you do is call, text, FB, and use a few apps, you can also do that easily on 8GB.

You cannot create a comment and apply that to everyone or every device

It's an opinion. Basically what I am saying is all 32GB models should be moved down to 16GB pricing. I'm not talking about keeping the current price point. It's time for 32GB to become the entry level storage option at the 16GB price.

So 32GB should be the cheapest model.

I do stand by in saying that 16GB is a joke at most Apple price points. I can take it easier on a $200 device that has a micro SD card slot and even their 32GB is all of $30 more at times.
 
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Well will wait and see if its worth. If its still as an ipad but bigger. Will move to surface pro 4 instead.
 
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This is a bad move by Apple. Unless it can run OSX no one is buying a tray sized iPad.
 
These rumours are getting more and more eh. Still hope this will run OSX, otherwise considering the price Apple charges for things it could be competing directly with the Surface Pro range and it won't look too good next to that, with iOS on it. No matter how bad Windows 8 is, it is still a full blown OS and iOS isn't.

Still we will wait and see what happens next year eh? It's certainly a market they could enter as the Galaxy Note 12 seems to sell well and the the Surface Pro does too. Any bigger though and it's an utterly pointless device.

I am getting the very very very nice Sony Xperia Z3 Tablet Compact from Father Christmas and I cannot wait :)
 
I have a couple of websites which I cannot look at using my iPad. I end up having to use my MacBook Pro for these websites. Usually the issue is no flash support. I would like to go with a larger iPad screen, however it would be a requirement that I am able to look at every website.

You should have tried using an iPad back in 2010 when I got my first iPad. There were loads of sites that didn't work but these days I encounter hardly any sites which don't work because Flash has receded so much and Steve Jobs was absolutely right to not include it. One of the big benefits of Android used to be Flash support but now that's gone too. Companies that want their sites to work on tablets and phones really better get rid of the Flash requirement. Just having a couple of sites that you cannot use shows how far we've come. Flash deserved to die. Sites that still use it deserve to see their hits drop through the floor.
 
Okay, bye. Because that will never happen. You'll get iOS apps with desktop-level features eventually (some apps already have them) — and a bigger display will help enable that. But touch UIs and mouse UIs are fundamentally incompatible.

well aren't you smart! No #%)#%. Thus why the op is implying they need an os specific to the ipad, or ipad only features.... or a hybrid of osx and ios that's more .... well, not a blow up ipad where you can scroll apps across a screen... wheeeee.
 
Huge market for aftermarket pens? Source?

What do you think the breakdown of iPad purchases versus stylus purchases is?

Do 4 out of 5 iPad owners buy a stylus? 1 out of 5 ? 1 out of 20 ?

I know dozens and dozens of people who own iPads. Regular average consumers. Small business owners too.

None of them have a stylus for their iPads.


Look... I get it. A Wacom stylus can give a tablet amazing capabilities... especially if you're an artist or you want to take handwritten notes. Even a crappy active digitizer can work well.

But guess what... the vast majority of iPad owners are not artists and don't take handwritten notes.

Would they do it if they could? Maybe. Who knows. But I'm sure Apple has thought about it and had reasons to not include a stylus with the iPad.

Actually... most tablets do not have a stylus. Google has never put a stylus in any of the Nexus tablets. Samsung includes a stylus in only a few selected Galaxy tablets.

Of course Microsoft went full-force with the stylus in the Surface Pro... but they've been trying to get "pen computing" to become commonplace for the last 15 years.

Maybe that's the bigger story here...

I bought a few styluses for my ipad, I was using Notability for hand written notes. One day NOtability screwed all my docs converting them into unopenable PDFs.. that day i threw both Notability and stylus into trashbih hehe

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I'm ready for the iPad mini 4. it will be what the 3 should have been imo
"shut up and take my money"
I"m pretty sure most of the Mini fans like me are holding on to their 3's because adding touch id wasn't enough. Apple really did miss a lot of upgrade money this year end by ignoring the 3. Maybe they are just thinking, they will get it later anyway.
my 2 cents

What about increasing Mini size lets say to 8.2 inch? Compared to new iphones, mini isnt that big now
 
I bought a few styluses for my ipad, I was using Notability for hand written notes. One day NOtability screwed all my docs converting them into unopenable PDFs.. that day i threw both Notability and stylus into trashbih hehe

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What about increasing Mini size lets say to 8.2 inch? Compared to new iphones, mini isnt that big now

or how about getting rid of the iPad mini & iPad Air and replace both of these with an 8.9" iPad. The new Nokia N1 is an 8.9" tablet with the exact 2048x1536 resolution of the iPad Air. That you way you have 8.9" & 12.2" iPad.

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Sorry I meant the Nexus 9, not the Nokia N1.
 
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