12.2-Inch 'iPad Air Plus' May Launch Between April and June 2015 With A9 Processor

inscrewtable said:
A proper modern smartphone has a proper OS and buttonless input. You only need to go back to 2007 and check out the ridicule Apple got to know that they indeed invented the smartphone as we know it.
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Disagree. Technically I believe IBM was the first with Simon, their first phone to incorporate features such as a touchscreen and software applications. It came complete with a stylus, and it allowed users to update their calendars, write notes and receive and even send faxes.

But you did use the term "modern" but even there I I have state that Keyboards have little to do with defining a smartphone. To me, its the fact that the phone contains software applications that can be run directly from the phone itself. That's what makes it "smart".

IMO, Nokia's 9210 from 2000 was where it began and included a proper OS for the day, Symbian. I had one and loved it. I also give RIM's Blackberry more credit than Apple. My 2005 BB8800 was great, had apps available, great form factor and did a lot for what it was.

Sure, Apple changed the landscape in terms of look and interface and building an ecosystem, but I don't give them credit for "inventing" a smartphone. They did help capture that terminology though.

You only need to see how thin it is compared to the 5 and 5s to know that they would not have been able to make it back then and be a nice phone at a huge size.
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My wife has an iP6. Still nothing impressive. Just a thinner iPhone. She'll be the first to say, it's thinner but is in quandary about whether she likes the larger screen. She really wanted her 4s only thinner.

Except that it is. It's where they are getting the bulk of their phone profits.
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Numbers still don't show it's coming from Apple taking their share. The volume of phone sales and OS activations vs Google don't support it.
 
pdqgp said:
Sure, Apple changed the landscape in terms of look and interface and building an ecosystem, but I don't give them credit for "inventing" a smartphone. They did help capture that terminology though.
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This. I give credit to Apple for defining the modern smartphone, but I won't go so far as to say they invented it wholesale. The iPhone was a very streamlined version of a ton of things that came before it.
 
iMeanIt said:
I'd buy it too! I see a huge pro market for this "iPad Pro" - visual artists and film makers are going to eat it up! A 12" iPad would be amazing on Hollywood sets where DPs, lighting directors, screen designers, make-up artists, etc. could all be able to instantly (and wirelessly) review camera takes on the set during production. Screen designers could be test-grading (color correction and creative enhancement) immediately. Same for documentary, news producers and talent able to get instant feedback. Even basic edits could be put together then and there. Smart-lighting is one of the next "big" things - a lighting director could adjust light color temperatures on the spot. 'Possibilities are endless! Bring it on Apple!
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I agree with you that there is definitely a market for such a device, that stuff's already being done on laptops. What does an iPad pro add to it?
 
gnasher729 said:
Before you answer, consider this: Every quarter, Apple sells about (and let's not argue about a few million, just the ratio is important)

5 million computers, growing, most expensive product
12 million iPads, shrinking, cheapest product
60 million iPhones, growing, medium priced product.

Even if you convinced all computer customers to buy an iPad running MacOS X, for example, it wouldn't make _that_ much difference to the iPad sales, and would actually cost Apple a lot of revenue.
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Ouch.

So, just to clarify.... You don't class the iPad as a "Computer" ?

I'm not saying Apple to do anything, I'm just stating a fact.

At first, portable computing reliant on a battery and a thin device, could only be made as a low computing power device.

This allows older devices (laptops) to carry on as always.

As time marches on, and technology improves, the tablets will be able to get faster and faster, and logically will get fast enough to run a full OS as a laptop can.

Then what do you (Apple) do?

Do you cripple the tablet?
Do you deliberately hold it back by refusing to let it run a full OS ?

Given they are the same form factor. Only real difference is a permanently attached or removable keyboard.
There really is no logical reason for Tablets and Laptops to be totally separate items, when one device can do both.

The only real reason we have two devices at all is the past/current technical abilities to make something thin and light with enough computing power, but as I say, that's only a matter of time, nothing else.
 
I will be buying one. For musicians, the larger screen is exactly what we need to put on our stands.

Moreover, I will use it as the preferred monitor for my Mac Mini, replacing my current iPad 2 for that purpose. It's great. I get all the computer power I need at home, but when I go out I just take the tablet with me. (And I keep my apartment uncluttered by putting the iPad, keyboard, and mouse in a drawer when I'm not using them.)

Now if only Apple would make an iPad I could connect via USB rather than Air Display.
 
The iPad pro or plus or whatever they call it had better be able to run OS X so as to be the Mac equivalent of the Microsoft Surface Pro if it's going to be that size. People want a tablet that can replace a laptop and converging the iPad with the MacBook Air would be the best way to do it.
 
Zetaprime said:
The iPad pro or plus or whatever they call it had better be able to run OS X so as to be the Mac equivalent of the Microsoft Surface Pro if it's going to be that size. People want a tablet that can replace a laptop and converging the iPad with the MacBook Air would be the best way to do it.
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I really thought 2014 was going to be the year we saw Apple attempt the surface style tablet/pc.
 
They can't call it a pro

Because it won't run OS X probably. It's just a larger iPad for playing Angry Birds. Sigh.
 
mattopotamus said:
I really thought 2014 was going to be the year we saw Apple attempt the surface style tablet/pc.
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I think Apple is just waiting for a time where the toaster fridge is in style. I really hope they do move forward with an OS X tablet soon. Though I feel like this one will be nothing more than an oversized iPad on iOS.
 
iMeanIt said:
I'd buy it too! I see a huge pro market for this "iPad Pro" - visual artists and film makers are going to eat it up! A 12" iPad would be amazing on Hollywood sets where DPs, lighting directors, screen designers, make-up artists, etc. could all be able to instantly (and wirelessly) review camera takes on the set during production. Screen designers could be test-grading (color correction and creative enhancement) immediately. Same for documentary, news producers and talent able to get instant feedback. Even basic edits could be put together then and there. Smart-lighting is one of the next "big" things - a lighting director could adjust light color temperatures on the spot. 'Possibilities are endless! Bring it on Apple!
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The iPad Air 2 is pretty powerful device for its size / weight & even compared to other devices. Nothing stopping them from using that.
 
sonicrobby said:
I think Apple is just waiting for a time where the toaster fridge is in style. I really hope they do move forward with an OS X tablet soon. Though I feel like this one will be nothing more than an oversized iPad on iOS.
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That would be a real waste. Apple doesn't seem to get it. They took several years to realize people wanted a larger phone. Even Wozniak said Apple was like 3 years late with the iPhone 6. They ought to have learned that they need to keep up with what their competitors are doing. I think they lost their spirit of innovation.
 
Michael Goff said:
They were using the iPads to tweet, nothing more.
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Maybe nothing more that night... but I have a feeling that all those people have been using iPads for a variety of tasks. Why wouldn't they? My local news channels have been using iPads for years.

Jake Tapper said he only used the iPad for tweeting... but I'm quite certain he's also got his email setup on his iPad. Remember... this is the device he had prior to that night. Are you telling me he ignored his emails for hours?

The CNN people showed up to work that night and Microsoft had provided a bunch of Surfaces. They were used to check election results.

And they used their iPads for everything else.

If Microsoft hadn't delivered those Surfaces... the iPads would have still been used.
 
12.2-Inch 'iPad Air Plus' May Launch Between April and June 2015 With A9 Proc...

Michael Scrip said:
Maybe nothing more that night... but I have a feeling that all those people have been using iPads for a variety of tasks. Why wouldn't they? My local news channels have been using iPads for years.



Jake Tapper said he only used the iPad for tweeting... but I'm quite certain he's also got his email setup on his iPad. Remember... this is the device he had prior to that night. Are you telling me he ignored his emails for hours?



The CNN people showed up to work that night and Microsoft had provided a bunch of Surfaces. They were used to check election results.



And they used their iPads for everything else.



If Microsoft hadn't delivered those Surfaces... the iPads would have still been used.
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If Apple made a tablet like the Surface Pro with OSX on it broadcasters would ditch those surfaces altogether. Apple has always been a mainstay in the broadcast and film industries. When you watch TV shows the Mac is the most common computer you see being used..so much so that they often cover the Apple logo on the back with a sticker. Those stickers are always a dead giveaway that it's an Apple computer.
 
Michael Scrip said:
Maybe nothing more that night... but I have a feeling that all those people have been using iPads for a variety of tasks. Why wouldn't they? My local news channels have been using iPads for years.

Jake Tapper said he only used the iPad for tweeting... but I'm quite certain he's also got his email setup on his iPad. Remember... this is the device he had prior to that night. Are you telling me he ignored his emails for hours?

The CNN people showed up to work that night and Microsoft had provided a bunch of Surfaces. They were used to check election results.

And they used their iPads for everything else.

If Microsoft hadn't delivered those Surfaces... the iPads would have still been used.
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And you know this based on your gut feelings, I take it.
 
Michael Goff said:
And you know this based on your gut feelings, I take it.
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Here's what I know:

The CNN commentators brought their iPads to work. Therefore... they were using iPads before that night.

Apple didn't have to partner with CNN to give airtime to their devices. They were already being used.

In fact... lots of on-air personalities use iPads. And they have for years.
 
gmcalpin said:
Hopefully it'll have Wacom-level pressure sensitivity, too. I'd like to use one instead of a Cintiq… but I wouldn't hold my breath for that.
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That would be great. Simply a bigger screen with nothing new added won't be convincing enough for one to switch from the 9.7" variety. At least in my opinion.
 
Michael Scrip said:
Here's what I know:

The CNN commentators brought their iPads to work. Therefore... they were using iPads before that night.

Apple didn't have to partner with CNN to give airtime to their devices. They were already being used.

In fact... lots of on-air personalities use iPads. And they have for years.
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And you know Apple didn't partner with CNN how? You know the people brought in their personal iPads how? For all we know, they really use Android tablets at home.
 
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