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If you listen to all of SJ's interviews regarding post-pc, he never said the PC will die. Post-pc doesn't mean no PC, just less PC.

Post-PC means even PCs aren't PCs anymore. Mac Minis, Apple TV, chromebooks, HTPCs, streaming sticks, etc, Smart phones, tablets, phablets, laptops, notebooks and soon Watches... Those are only the things with a visual interface. All of them can receive a keyboard and screens and even pointing devices. How are they really any different than PCs, the line between all of these is kinda arbitrary.

Microsoft, Android, OSX and IOS all are converging towards user friendliness.

What is clear, is that users are shielded more and more from the technical aspects of their computers. That'S probably what Jobs meants from post PC. PC's until the mid 2000s weren't meant for the tech averse, but now they are.
 
Biggest joke on 2014? Pretty dumb comment.

For you and me yes.

1. There needs to be a cheaper model
2. While you may want every song, and app, and photo on your device, many use it to read books, watch websites/video and play some games. You can do this easily on a 16GB.
3. If you had an 8GB phone and all you do is call, text, FB, and use a few apps, you can also do that easily on 8GB.

You cannot create a comment and apply that to everyone or every device

8GB phone? iOS 8 update was damn near 8GB
 
Having played with my dad's Samsung Galaxy for a bit I'd argue that iOS is the "post-PC" experience while Android makes an assumption that you know how to use a computer. They have a file system, organized into little folders, and attachments. This is not necessarily good or bad or another iOS vs. Android post, but the learning curve for Android is that they take the "PC in your hand" thing very literally, while iOS organizes everything for you.
 
Yep should be full OS X with a few tweaks such as the iOS app store with a specefic section for pro apps, iOS Safari and other apps that are tailor made for a touch interface. Truly mesh the two together, make it the best of both worlds and minimalise the growing pains.
 
I bought a few styluses for my ipad, I was using Notability for hand written notes. One day NOtability screwed all my docs converting them into unopenable PDFs.. that day i threw both Notability and stylus into trashbih hehe

Damn that sucks.


What about increasing Mini size lets say to 8.2 inch? Compared to new iphones, mini isnt that big now

The new iPhones and the iPad Mini aren't as close as you think...

It may seem close on paper... but the iPad's aspect ratio is what really makes the difference.

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iPad air plus? Who's naming the iPads at apple????

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Yep should be full OS X with a few tweaks such as the iOS app store with a specefic section for pro apps, iOS Safari and other apps that are tailor made for a touch interface. Truly mesh the two together, make it the best of both worlds and minimalise the growing pains.

I found it funny that some people want this, a product of Windows mindset. I would never use (solely) a tablet for serious productivity, Surface Pro or not, and would never with iPad either. iPad should be light, more mobile than a laptop, and quick to do a specific tasks (not necessary be a light task, but one at a time), which is perfectly done with the current model. I don't know what is the vision for future iPad, but certainly I don't want it to fully replace a laptop.
 
Early tablets, way before ipad, were always mission specific, for mobile data gathering or retrieval for the ambling and standing worker. Apple took that and put the tablet's use in the EZ chair, primarily for content consumption.
 
I bought a few styluses for my ipad, I was using Notability for hand written notes. One day NOtability screwed all my docs converting them into unopenable PDFs.. that day i threw both Notability and stylus into trashbih hehe

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What about increasing Mini size lets say to 8.2 inch? Compared to new iphones, mini isnt that big now

The 6 Plus is 45% screen area of the Mini. Roughly you can put a mini down and two 6 Plus on its screen and there is still iPad Mini screen left. The key is at what point its awkward, and less enjoyable. At the other end its too big, well, bigger is generally nicer but the benefit of real estate falls off when it gets to a screen size thats enjoyable.
 
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I found it funny that some people want this, a product of Windows mindset. I would never use (solely) a tablet for serious productivity, Surface Pro or not, and would never with iPad either. iPad should be light, more mobile than a laptop, and quick to do a specific tasks (not necessary be a light task, but one at a time), which is perfectly done with the current model. I don't know what is the vision for future iPad, but certainly I don't want it to fully replace a laptop.

Well the Surface Pro and Macbook Air are essentially the same device in terms of what can and cannot be done comfortably. OS and form factor are the two biggest differences and the Surface Pro can rectify the latter.

An ARM based iPad Pro whose OS more closely resembles OS X would retain that "pick up and go" capability that the current iterations have with the added benefits of certain features baked in at the core e.g. multi window/desktop, multiple workflows/instances, default programs, open with, access to file system, recycle bin etc.

For me at 12 inches, it needs more than just a screen size increase to justify its worth. i can see more people flocking to the device if there is more added incentive than just an increase in screen size and an what would practically be an superficial increase in power.
 
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I found it funny that some people want this, a product of Windows mindset. I would never use (solely) a tablet for serious productivity, Surface Pro or not, and would never with iPad either. iPad should be light, more mobile than a laptop, and quick to do a specific tasks (not necessary be a light task, but one at a time), which is perfectly done with the current model. I don't know what is the vision for future iPad, but certainly I don't want it to fully replace a laptop.

If the iPad evolved to replace a laptop, I guarantee it will pretty much be a laptop. So, your right, keep one for heavy lifting, the other do consume stuff, and it can do a bit of heavy lifting when travelling if the need arises.

I don't see OS X on an iPad, nor do I see a hybrid. WE don't need three OS's. I'd like to see them continuing to work together, ask the questions, what functions are hard, awkward on an iPad? I hear many say it cannot support a mouse, why not? A mouse is a pointing device, as is a stylus, as is a finger. I use a small Microsoft mouse on my rMBP, its not wifi or BT but one like that would be nice on an iPad, for those occasions when you want to work on Excel on the plane, etc. Or a BT mini keyboard with a trackpad. Small, and it increases the 9.7 screen, to, well 9.7, as no onscreen keyboard needed to be displayed
 
Come one Apple, release a MacBook Air AND a larger iPad. That will make everyone happy, except those who don't want me to have a larger iPad, and their feelings aren't important anyway.

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I'd buy it.

Remember when "real work" was only done on "desktop workstations"? The idea that anyone could do "real work" on a laptop would get you laughed off the IRC.

The future is coming, no matter how much we protest.

I'd buy it too! I see a huge pro market for this "iPad Pro" - visual artists and film makers are going to eat it up! A 12" iPad would be amazing on Hollywood sets where DPs, lighting directors, screen designers, make-up artists, etc. could all be able to instantly (and wirelessly) review camera takes on the set during production. Screen designers could be test-grading (color correction and creative enhancement) immediately. Same for documentary, news producers and talent able to get instant feedback. Even basic edits could be put together then and there. Smart-lighting is one of the next "big" things - a lighting director could adjust light color temperatures on the spot. 'Possibilities are endless! Bring it on Apple!
 
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I don't think that the iPad mini fans will go for the larger size. The current form is almost too large for back pocket carry. Portability and weight are its advantages and you would sacrifice both with the bigger tablet. I'm speaking for men. Men that take their mini everywhere and only have a suit coat or pants pockets to transport their mini's.
Another tweeter is not in the cards imo. The Mini in its current size does have a few problems, but they are problems that we will continue to live with without bitching too much. Speaker volume is the main one, and there is no reason why the speakers couldn't be upgraded to the volume level of an iPhone.
A larger phone currently does not run IPad apps. iPad apps are much richer in content than the phone counterparts so the Mini should maintain a predominant place in the 'carry with you' devices.
 
or how about getting rid of the iPad mini & iPad Air and replace both of these with an 8.9" iPad. The new Nokia N1 is an 8.9" tablet with the exact 2048x1536 resolution of the iPad Air. That you way you have 8.9" & 12.2" iPad.

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Sorry I meant the Nexus 9, not the Nokia N1.

I think mini serves its purposes, it is a low end, low price entry tablet into Macworld through iOS. That way, it can't have as good display as the flagship iPad Air; neither it can have faster processor than iPad Air, it has to lag one or two steps behind in specs, be cheap and affordable and yet enjoyable. I think it does its job well; I would welcome for example mini Pro with all latest technology; i think that incoming ipad Mini 4 is such Pro; it can't be cheap, however.

So let it be and introduce fastest iPad mini; my idea however is maybe addiing 0.7 inch is worth it for new Mini. We know how exactly 0.7 inches drastically increased sales of iPhone 6 with jump from 4 to 4.7 inches. It does really change dimensions and usage of iPhone 6 as well increase sales manyfold. Maybe same tactic can applied to mini; its not much big increase in weight, but usage may improve a lot.
Also, of course, pressure senstivitity would be great addition. Otherwise, i thinking of buying Wacom.

With 6+, you really have to differentiate mini from the phablets. That can be a slightly larger size, pressure sensitive display, latest A9, etc. By reducing bezels the overall mini size may be same still.
 
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Okay, bye. Because that will never happen. You'll get iOS apps with desktop-level features eventually (some apps already have them) — and a bigger display will help enable that. But touch UIs and mouse UIs are fundamentally incompatible.

Not true, I've seen OS X running on a Surface Pro 2 and the touch interface worked beautifully.
 
You should have tried using an iPad back in 2010 when I got my first iPad. There were loads of sites that didn't work but these days I encounter hardly any sites which don't work because Flash has receded so much and Steve Jobs was absolutely right to not include it. One of the big benefits of Android used to be Flash support but now that's gone too. Companies that want their sites to work on tablets and phones really better get rid of the Flash requirement. Just having a couple of sites that you cannot use shows how far we've come. Flash deserved to die. Sites that still use it deserve to see their hits drop through the floor.

I agree that there are less sites now than in the past. Unfortunately, one of the hold outs include my Citi Bank virtual credit card account number generator site. I would like to leave my MacBook Pro home when I travel, but can't when I need to do these types of financial transactions and find that it's unsupportable on the iPad.
 
Not true, I've seen OS X running on a Surface Pro 2 and the touch interface worked beautifully.

OSX interface is designed for mouse and keyboard input, iOS interface is designed for touch input. Lets not mix those two different design philosophies up into a hybrid.
We see how good MS Surface 3 sells...

I'm seeing the "iPad Pro" (alligning the name with MBA and MBP) more as the catalyst that will trigger companies to release "pro"-iOS apps that can do a lot more and have a great data transfer with their desktop counterparts.

We are seeing this with Adobe and MS Office, now lets hope that MS brings app versions of their C# compiler (with Mono's help) and their SQL database to the iPad Pro.
Followed by Apple with their Xcode and then rest of the industry will follow with ERP, CRM, Accountancy, Design, etc software.

Adding split screen and more thread processing in iOS 9 while stabilizing iOS further would be enough.
A computer based map structure isn't needed, maybe just a "Container"-app where you can store files that need to be accessed by several different apps without using the iCloud.
 
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If safari on the MaxiPad can run extensions (specifically add block) then I'll buy it.
 
will wait on you to further clarify this statement.

A proper modern smartphone has a proper OS and buttonless input. You only need to go back to 2007 and check out the ridicule Apple got to know that they indeed invented the smartphone as we know it.

there's little to nothing brilliant about the iP6 devices in terms of calling them a phablet. In fact IMO they are nothing but larger versions of what already existed.

You only need to see how thin it is compared to the 5 and 5s to know that they would not have been able to make it back then and be a nice phone at a huge size.

The iP6 isn't what's hurting Samsung.
Except that it is. It's where they are getting the bulk of their phone profits.
 
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I found it funny that some people want this, a product of Windows mindset. I would never use (solely) a tablet for serious productivity, Surface Pro or not, and would never with iPad either. iPad should be light, more mobile than a laptop, and quick to do a specific tasks (not necessary be a light task, but one at a time), which is perfectly done with the current model. I don't know what is the vision for future iPad, but certainly I don't want it to fully replace a laptop.

As technology advances, say an iPad 15 is twice the speed of the current Macbook air. What OS do you think such a thing should run and/or be used for?
 
Not interested if this is limited to iOS apps; I don't need a bigger iPad, I need an iPad that's a capable replacement for my laptop and nothing so far as gone in that direction unless I need to keep adding keyboard docks and wireless mice to turn my tablet into a pseudo-laptop (in which case I prefer just buying a laptop).
 
I dont need a bigger ipad, but sure would like one. I mainly use my ipad for internet consumption. And consumption at the house and not having to be portable.

But having the ability to run 'other' applications (not just app store) would be awesome.
 
As technology advances, say an iPad 15 is twice the speed of the current Macbook air. What OS do you think such a thing should run and/or be used for?

Before you answer, consider this: Every quarter, Apple sells about (and let's not argue about a few million, just the ratio is important)

5 million computers, growing, most expensive product
12 million iPads, shrinking, cheapest product
60 million iPhones, growing, medium priced product.

Even if you convinced all computer customers to buy an iPad running MacOS X, for example, it wouldn't make _that_ much difference to the iPad sales, and would actually cost Apple a lot of revenue.
 
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