I don’t need to explain it. It’s how it has always been and always will be. Please, don’t take my word for it, just ask anybody with a modicum of knowledge of technology and programming and/or experience of using these things for years upon years.
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iPhone 12 Pro 12 Pro stutter when closing apps
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I don’t need to explain it. It’s how it has always been and always will be. Please, don’t take my word for it, just ask anybody with a modicum of knowledge of technology and programming and/or experience of using these things for years upon years.
Because even if a bug is specific to certain hardware, not everyone who has that hardware will experience the bug. It's the just the way certain bugs can manifest themselves. Software bugs can be very tricky.
Ok, I think I have found something out. I have been having frequent stutters. I was using a dynamic wallpaper. I changed the wallpaper to a static one and the stutters are almost gone. I still get them but much more rare than before.
I have fixed fair share of bugs in my work as software engineer. Including those that some have while others do not when using same software version. Usually there is some difference (data, hardware, environment, configuration etc.) which needs to taken care by fix to software.
We are all guessing here, including me, but some guesses seems to be based more on feeling than knowledge.
I have the same feeling. It seems that someone has the truth in his own hands but cannot explain exactly why is it so because "I KNOW IT, TRUST ME".
I got ios 14 with my iphone xs max from july with a developer profile and NEVER had any kind of stutter. My husband has iphone 11 pro updated with the latest ios and no problem at all as many other user.... i don't really understand why you cannot accept that some component and some device may be defective.
Because others are reporting that their previously fine older iPhones, 11 pro max for example, are now exhibiting this issue with iOS 14. Therefore, ruling out with some certainty that it’s a hardware issue: post 488 for example.
You guys believe whatever you like, I’m just giving you my opinion based on reading this entire thread.
This is what I've been saying all along. People use their phones differently and have different apps and settings. This might be the reason some notice it more than others.
Also this stutter only happens when swiping up on an app. It doesn't happen anywhere else even running intensive apps like plane etc. Clearly its not hardware.
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totally wrong. People use phone in many different ways, but I've experienced the problem as if I was a new apple user, with a brand new apple id and only the system app and nothing more. Some other people like my sister which now owns my old xs max has ios 14 updated and no problem at all. Really, i would try to understand why you can't believe that some phone maybe have some defective storage memory. Please tell me just one reason why it can't be. It' unbelievable how you rely on apple as manufacturer.
I am giving you my opinion based on what i have seen and feel with my eyes. Because I've already had hardware problems with apple. I remember the issue with 4s battery when it came out. I was lasting less than 4 hours. Apple came out with many tests from phone support, ios updates and tried to say it was ok. Someone maybe settled down, I went through the problem and at last apple changed my 4s. The swap unit was 100% perfect.
From my point of view, I want to change the device with a new one. I will be refunded by amazon within the 19th of January, then i will order another device and I will let you know.
You can keep living with the hope of a software fix (that i'm sure will never come)being stuck with your convinction about the software issue. I wanna try with a new phone, 'cause I've seen with my eyes many many iphone 12 (friends and family) that are smooth and perfect. Hefr only mine have problems and it really doesn't mean other people uses the device better than me.
it's your money, you can borrow it with your convinction. I won't.
I first want to try, i have the rights to have a 100% working device. After that i'm ready to keep my device and wait for some magic software update. Or maybe give back the second unit and as it happened with antenna gate of iphone 4, wait for the iphone 12S.
For the 100th time its software. Please explain why this stutter only happens when swiping up on an app at times but never anywhere else. I run some intense apps and they have no stutter at all.Whether Apple cares and will fix it I have no idea. Ive been supporting hardware and software for almost 30 years.
I remember the annoying mail notification issue using the mail app where push emails did not always load until you opened the app. This was a huge deal and Apple didn't fix it fully until iOS 14. Many people didn't have the issue at all and many did. I bet you would have said a hardware issue lol.
"Please explain why this stutter only happens when swiping up on an app at times but never anywhere else"....
well, for the 100th time....
It's not just a stutter. It's a stutter that freezes the swipe up and brings you to multitasking page, which is very annoying.What you mean by "never anywhere else"? It happens really RANDOMLY. it can happen on app 1, then happen on app 5, and then again after 10 correct swipes, stutter back with the app 1. There is not a certain app which is causing it or a certain motivation.
Moreover i had issue with imovie. Video and audio out of sync after the rendering. I don't think it's something you cannot consider or just say "ok I cannot use imovie on my faster-cpued-phone-of-the-world, nevermind"....
However, you didn't answemyto my question...Do you really think apple cannot have faulty components on its devices?
well, for the 100th time....
It's not just a stutter. It's a stutter that freezes the swipe up and brings you to multitasking page, which is very annoying.What you mean by "never anywhere else"? It happens really RANDOMLY. it can happen on app 1, then happen on app 5, and then again after 10 correct swipes, stutter back with the app 1. There is not a certain app which is causing it or a certain motivation.
Moreover i had issue with imovie. Video and audio out of sync after the rendering. I don't think it's something you cannot consider or just say "ok I cannot use imovie on my faster-cpued-phone-of-the-world, nevermind"....
However, you didn't answemyto my question...Do you really think apple cannot have faulty components on its devices?
Ok let me answer your question. Yes there can be faulty components. Ive had faulty iPhones before. Usually with bad RAM etc you get kernel panics, reboots, shutdowns etc. Not stutter only when swiping up on apps. Ive never had a single issue running intensive apps and using the phone for anything other then the occasional swiping up to exit an app. Clearly a software bug. By the time Apple figures this out software or hardware ill be trading in for the 13. Hang in there as there are far worse things to deal with recently.
Im not going to have this discussion with you anymore as we are too divided. My advice to you would be to keep going to the apple store and swap out until you get one with better hardware. Even if Apple comes out with a software fix tomorrow you will say it was some work around for so many defective phones etc. Cheers.
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Could be anything. Possibly preloading recently used app cards when pressing home bar so they are ready if user keeps pressing the screen to open recents.
In some phones preloading would sometimes freeze screen input so it thinks that screen is still pressed even if it is not thus opening recents when user tries to close app.
I thought I read a couple of developers on this thread were able to see why it happening.
ok great.So we have a software issue that seems to affect you if you are among the few (yes few in comparison to the millips devices sold) unlucky people which picked up the "software bugged" phone (because million of other people doesn't have problems).
So you give the phone back giving you a second possibility to be among the lucky millon people which doesn't have "software bugged phone".
Does it sound more professional to you?
Does it let you sleep well thinkin you're right and you're the best software bug buster on the heart? If so, i'm very happy for you, but i don't want to be one of the unlucky which are waiting for apple to solve a problem which affects the 1% of all its fanboys that won't think it's a hardware problem and will keep on hoping that apple mum will release a software fix.
we are in a democracy ,so everyone thinks what let him feel happier.
i read a bunch of developers on the official apple forum that doesn't have an idea of what it is the problem.
Those runningboardd log entries did not tell why if that is what you mean. There was guessing based on that (suspended app memory full) but that leaves a question why all ios 14 phones are not affected.
You’re free to do what you want but don’t be surprised when you have the exact same problem with the new device and you’ve wasted a bunch of your time.
I have an iPhone XS Max and had this problem after upgrading to iOS 14. iPhone XS Max definitely has it, you just didn’t notice it.
do you really think i am so stupid that i could not have been noticing a thing like that on the iphone xs? You have an idea on how does it feel when you're having this problem and how much it affects the user experience? you think it's so fair that you can't notice it? well it means that you don't know what you're talking about. it's IMPOSSIBLE not to face the problem, and it's impossible not to complain about it on a very expensive hardware. So, please, don't ever talk about "it's happening because you're stuck on watching your phone" because it's b***s**t.
many "software things" that you've been talking about are leaving questions.
My big question to you is: are you writing here because you're facing the problem on your device, or are you here to show us you software skills without knowing what we're talking about?
I think it's the second option.
I am not writing here to show anything. Just guessing like you and everyone else in this thread.
People may come to this thread to see if this is solved or not so I will stop polluting this thread with my guesses.
You seriously need to start watching your attitude around here. You’ve been told numerous times what people think, we don’t agree with you, move on and stop with the insults and inflammatory comments (‘fanboys’ ‘ you don’t know what you’re talking about’ etc).
I'm sorry if what I wrote made feel someone as "insulted". Anyway I have said anything I had to say. I will wait for my new phone to arrive and I will let you know if it's acting as the previous one. I'm not going to add any kind of comment anymore.