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they will remove the dvd-r AND replace the current HD into on-board flash drive so we will have plenty of room for discrete graphic card while keeping the whole thing smaller.
 
hm still no word on quad-core processor? quad-core, discrete graphics, and 16gb ram would be perfect :) basically same specs as the 15" but 13" (2560x1600) :p that won't be the case though :(
 
Having seen a current gen Macbook Pro 13, the screen is really nice. I am not convinced the super hi-resolution laptops are truly worth the extra cost for most people.

That's why the MBA will still be offered for a lower price and without a Retina display.

That's probably going to be the selling point of the Pro, given that processor performance difference wouldn't be that big, and they would share the same GPU, storage, RAM (minus the 16GB option of the MBA for now), screen size, lack of upgradability, battery life and lack of ethernet/firewire/optical drive.

The 13" MBP needs something to set itself apart otherwise it has no point in being. A discrete GPU would also make sense but it's simply not possible to have one that's considerably better than the Intel HD 5000 in a 13" laptop with the thickness and battery life of the 15" rMBP.
 
My Mac Pro does 20284 on GeekBench...

And they call them MacBook Pro's... :rolleyes:
The Mac Pro is the only REAL Pro computer...
I can't believe Apple is gearing towards consumers and forget the pros that sustained their business since 1984... :mad:

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Yeah, who needs CD's or DVD's anymore?
 
I dont see how they can launch the 13" version when the 15" is still full of bugs and being returned by a huge percentage of unsatisfied customers.

Has Apple just become all about the profit?!
 
With all the complaints in regards to lag in both the OS and scrolling on the retina mbp (i have one myself) i don't see how a 13" without a discrete graphics card would be able to deal with it. Also, it would be hard to fit a discrete one whilst maintaining the 7 hr battery time. I call hoax!

I read the Anandtech article. These guys are actually not complaining. Not at all. They say in their article how incredible it is what Apple is doing with the Retina display, and that you pay the price for pumping up a 1440 x 900 display to 1920 x 1200. I also don't hear any owners of the Retina MBP complaining.
 
My Mac Pro does 20284 on GeekBench...

And they call them MacBook Pro's... :rolleyes:
The Mac Pro is the only REAL Pro computer...
Quit being an elitist, the rMBP is as powerful as it can be CPU-wise. It literally uses the fastest mobile CPUs right now.

Some professionals need mobility while working. What else would you want in a laptop form factor? You can't put server-class desktop CPUs in a laptop.
 
Superdrive taken out?

they will remove the dvd-r AND replace the current HD into on-board flash drive so we will have plenty of room for discrete graphic card while keeping the whole thing smaller.

It's possible. But they still need to fit a giant battery in there. Even with RAM and SSD directly on the motherboard, I am struggling to think they will fit a discrete GPU in there. Especially with smaller internal volume than the 15 inch and the need for a big battery.

I do think Apple can fit it all in there. The biggest problem will be heat. Don't current 13" MBPs only have 1 internal fan?
 
Conveniently, 2880x1800 on a 13.3" display works out to ~255 dpi which means the same wafers could be used to make a 3360x2100 15.4" screen (double 1680x1050) which has a similar dpi for a BTO option in next year's 15.4" MacBook Pro.
That sounds good and very consistent, simplifying screen production (but what about a potential future 11" rMBA? it could be 2560 x 1440 if still 16:9 ?).
But the probable lack of discrete GPU in the 13" rMBP could be a problem.
There maybe need improvements on iGPUs first.
 
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hm still no word on quad-core processor? quad-core, discrete graphics, and 16gb ram would be perfect :) basically same specs as the 15" but 13" (2560x1600) :p that won't be the case though :(

I am hoping that at least will be an option! I really want the 13" screen size and I'm prepared to pay for the best model. But if the 13" won't offer quad-core and 512GB SSD it's gonna be hard to decide... I'm guessing at least the 512GB SSD will be available as the current 15" is configurable up to 768GB.

And by the way. I really don't think they will launch this with only Intel HD4000.
 
Some professionals need mobility while working. What else would you want in a laptop form factor? You can't put server-class desktop CPUs in a laptop.

Actually, you can. Eurocom did this a while back in their Panther 4.0 laptop, which packed an 8 core/16 thread Intel Xeon E5-2690:

http://www.computerworld.com/s/arti...cks_eight_core_Intel_Xeon_E5_chip_into_laptop

Also, as an aside, since I've done a fair amount of PCB design in the past, I looked into doing something similar for an enclosure that is slightly larger than the Mac Mini; in fact, much of the design could be reused for a Xeon-based motherboard for a bulky laptop. Granted, while it's easy enough to spend to spend a few months laying out a motherboard, formulating a good cooling solution is rather arduous.
 
Actually, you can. Eurocom did this a while back in their Panther 4.0 laptop, which packed an 8 core/16 thread Intel Xeon E5-2690:

http://www.computerworld.com/s/arti...cks_eight_core_Intel_Xeon_E5_chip_into_laptop

Also, as an aside, since I've done a fair amount of PCB design in the past, I looked into doing something similar for an enclosure that is slightly larger than the Mac Mini; in fact, much of the design could be reused for a Xeon-based motherboard for a bulky laptop. Granted, while it's easy enough to spend to spend a few months laying out a motherboard, formulating a good cooling solution is rather arduous.

TIL. However I don't think Apple would release a 12.1 lb laptop haha.

I still think the other guy snobbing MBPs because his Mac Pro is more powerful is ridiculous. Like every job requires Xeons.
 
I'm guessing at least the 512GB SSD will be available as the current 15" is configurable up to 768GB.

Sure, even the MBAs are configurable with up to 512GB SSD, so the Retina would certainly have that.

I'm still guessing 256GB SSD + 8GB RAM = €1650. Shut up & take my money :)


Peter.
 
I don't care. I need a 17" and am keeping my 2011 17" MBP until Apple comes out with a proper replacement, or until the Second Coming of Steve Jobs when he starts a new company.
 
Most students moving to school, (presumably) living on their own would lose their minds without a disc drive.

I don't think a retina display MacBook Pro 13 inch would have a disk drive. Wouldn't it copy over from the 15 inch MacBook Pro?
 
Having seen a current gen Macbook Pro 13, the screen is really nice. I am not convinced the super hi-resolution laptops are truly worth the extra cost for most people.

However nice you might think the current screen is, the display on the rMBP is not a subtle upgrade. And it's hardly fair to compare the price of a rMBP to a regular MBP. MBPs still come by default with spinning drives and such, there are more benefits than just the (insanely great) screen. You get twice as much RAM and SSD right out the gate.
 
I think there is a troll at the Apple facility reading MacRumors and thinking: "Slow news day today. Let's tinker with our equipment, emulate a MacBook and go to Geekbench. Then, I count till ten and it will make the rumor news."

Honestly, how can the engineers at Apple use public benchmarks knowing that it will end up in a databse everybody can read? I might be alone here but I highly doubt that this is plausible. Doubling down on security?

I agree. Do you remember that iMac geekbench that showed up a few months back? Those results looked pretty 'meh' to me. I really don't think they reflect what's around the corner for us.
 
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