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It's possible. But they still need to fit a giant battery in there. Even with RAM and SSD directly on the motherboard, I am struggling to think they will fit a discrete GPU in there. Especially with smaller internal volume than the 15 inch and the need for a big battery.

I do think Apple can fit it all in there. The biggest problem will be heat. Don't current 13" MBPs only have 1 internal fan?

Not if they try using IGZO tech which will save them throwing a massive battery in there = saved space.

And 13" MBPs have 2 fans I believe...
 
Students need the "Pro" model?

Why exactly?

Because some of the will be programmers. Others will eat probiotic yoghut. The next ones have to way the pros and cons in philosophy. :p

Do you see what I did there? :D


PS: it's not about what they need - it's about what they want and can afford. Guess why Freshmen in college all get credit card applications.
 
Good question.

We'll be using it for working with high-res photography on a regular basis and frequently out in the field, so the pumped up graphics card, CPU, and RAM will be good. The person who'll be assigned the laptop finds 15" is just too large and cumbersome. Meanwhile, the MacBook Air's small SSD drive poses potential issues.

Admittedly, there is perhaps a small bit of this option being an indulgence (perhaps somewhere approaching $100 of the potential $400 difference you propose). However, considering the choices were initially between the 15" MBP with Retina or the 13" MacBook Air, this seems a good compromise on first inspection. I won't make a definitive decision until I finally know the real numbers and look at them side-by-side while weighing pros and cons.

I assumed $400 given that's the difference for the 15" retina vs non-retina display.


That's why the MBA will still be offered for a lower price and without a Retina display.

That's probably going to be the selling point of the Pro, given that processor performance difference wouldn't be that big, and they would share the same GPU, storage, RAM (minus the 16GB option of the MBA for now), screen size, lack of upgradability, battery life and lack of ethernet/firewire/optical drive.

The 13" MBP needs something to set itself apart otherwise it has no point in being. A discrete GPU would also make sense but it's simply not possible to have one that's considerably better than the Intel HD 5000 in a 13" laptop with the thickness and battery life of the 15" rMBP.

The pro is a great machine if you still need an internal DVD, or need a large internal drive and don't want to spend the crazy cost for an Apple supplied SSD (Yes, check the prices they are REDICULOUS -- $1000 to get a 512gb SSD from a mechanical drive is about 2x the cost of an aftermarket 512gb)
 
Because some of the will be programmers. Others will eat probiotic yoghut. The next ones have to way the pros and cons in philosophy. :p

Do you see what I did there? :D

Ummm, was there a joke in there somewhere?
Or are you just trying to bait me into correcting your spelling of "yoghurt" and "weigh"?
Absolutely no way I'd ever fall for that old trick. Oh wait.

PS: it's not about what they need - it's about what they want and can afford.

I see your point. I wonder if Intel sees your point too.

Want: MacBook Air.
Can afford: Ultrabook. If only it was $200 - $300 cheaper.
 
I'm hoping my not-so-often-used 2009 MBP holds out until more of my daily apps support retina resolutions. Then it's game on.
 
I don't think a retina display MacBook Pro 13 inch would have a disk drive. Wouldn't it copy over from the 15 inch MacBook Pro?

Oh, I'm sorry, I thought we were talking about computers that are currently for sale. Like the ones during Apple's back to school promotion. Like a certain 13" MacBook Pro that currently does have an ODD.
 
I assumed $400 given that's the difference for the 15" retina vs non-retina display.

$400 is what you pay for extra RAM, SSD drive, and retina display. SSD drives are expensive. If you bothered checking out the price for the 15" MBP with the same RAM and SSD drive as the Retina MBP, the Retina MBP is considerably cheaper.
 
My guess would be 2560 x 1600, which makes sense given the old MBP was 1280x800.

But what about the video card? Will it come with a discrete video chip and if so, which model?

A discrete GPU would be a requirement baring an unannounced Intel processor.
 
$400 is what you pay for extra RAM, SSD drive, and retina display. SSD drives are expensive. If you bothered checking out the price for the 15" MBP with the same RAM and SSD drive as the Retina MBP, the Retina MBP is considerably cheaper.

SSD's are becoming cheaper everyday :)

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haswell retina 13 will rock

I think Haswell, like Ivy bridge and Sandy bridge before it, is getting overhyped. People always want a massive boost in performance but Intel has been delivering 10-15% performance boosts in each new generation of processors and I expect Haswell will go the same way.

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Awesome! As much as I'm excited for the iPhone, ipad mini, ect, THIS is what I want the most this year!

Same here! :D
 
I assumed $400 given that's the difference for the 15" retina vs non-retina display.

I'm was basing that on your prognosticated estimate of the rumored 13" MBP with Retina versus the current 13" MBA. I would guess that, while the 13" MBP with Retina is going to fetch a pretty penny over a standard 13" MBP, it shouldn't be too much more expensive than a 13" MBA (likely between $250 to $400 more for the 13" MBP with Retina) due to the MBA's SSD.

The pro is a great machine if you still need an internal DVD, or need a large internal drive and don't want to spend the crazy cost for an Apple supplied SSD (Yes, check the prices they are REDICULOUS -- $1000 to get a 512gb SSD from a mechanical drive is about 2x the cost of an aftermarket 512gb)

While I'm not sure that is completely fair without a closer look (can depend on SSD), that's one reason places like OWC continue to exist and flourish. However, when I was looking at the difference between going with the base 13" MBA and upgrading the SSD or just buying the 13" MBA with 256GB drive, I didn't see a ton of advantage going that route from an economic standpoint and for our needs.
 
Students need the "Pro" model?

Why exactly?

Some design schools happen to recommend Macbook Pros over other computers. This is likely to do with streamlining software, instruction, workflow, lab access, and generally transitioning to be working in similar professional environments.

Not every student is a rich whiny kid that has to have everything.
 
I dont see how they can launch the 13" version when the 15" is still full of bugs and being returned by a huge percentage of unsatisfied customers.

Has Apple just become all about the profit?!

o_O Was there ever a point in time when they weren't?
 
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Windows 8 is aweful - think its about time I finally switch

I'll have to ask u guys where the best place to sit in Starbucks so my new mbp gets the most attention though

Let me know which Starbucks you go to. I will sit next to your with my dell laptop I bought in 2000. That wil make your new Mac really pop
 
That would definitely be interesting to see. I'm just a little surprised Apple hasn't merged the MBA & MBP lines. Very simple lineup, 11, 13 & 15 inch models. The only hard thing would be to get a dedicated GPU in there to drive all those pixels and keep a 7 hour or so battery life.

I expect this is the start of that trend - the MBA will be for maximum lightness, so no Retina Display (at least until it draws less power) to allow for a smaller battery in the tapered case. The MBP will have the Retina Display (the thicker case allowing more battery capacity). Neither will have an optical drive, a spinning metal hard drive or large-format ports (like Ethernet).


I can't believe Apple is gearing towards consumers and forget the pros that sustained their business since 1984... :mad:

That would be because it appears consumers are the ones now sustaining Apple's business and driving sales, not "pros".
 
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Windows 8 is aweful - think its about time I finally switch

I'll have to ask u guys where the best place to sit in Starbucks so my new mbp gets the most attention though

I usually choose the seat closest to the door. It helps to have the Apple logo half way between the door and the line. Make sure the screen isn't tilted too much, you want it to be obvious that you are "cool" with your Mac. Not make sure you get a large coffee and have the Starbucks logo facing out too. Don't use a heat thing because that makes the logo seem hidden and the cup unappealing. Good luck, and makes us proud out there. Soon you will have people staring in jealousy as you watch cats on YouTube or just play angry birds on Chrome.

:rolleyes:
 
Knew it was fake

This has been a fake all along. This article should be deleted. 10.8.1 was always going to be a 'B' build train. An 'A! Build train with a four digit build number would be for hardware released after the 10.8.0 release but prior to 10.8.1.
 
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This one has 8GB RAM. It also uses the same processor as the current high-end 13" MBP which comes with 8GB RAM. No way they will downgrade.

According to the geekbench output in the article, it only has a dual core processor. I thought the 15" had a quad core.

I find this result pretty hard to believe. Dual core (same as the Air) in the 13" Pro (same as the air)? If they go with integrated graphics as rumored, then there's barely any difference apart from the display and the processing power is half that of the Macbooks released earlier this year.
 

Oh okay thanks. Just looking at the teardown, it's crazy how much space the optical drive takes up in the 13 inch! :eek:

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I find this result pretty hard to believe. Dual core (same as the Air) in the 13" Pro (same as the air)? If they go with integrated graphics as rumored, then there's barely any difference apart from the display.

Agreed. Apple will have to add something substantial to a 13 inch retina pro to price it in the 1700-1800 starting bracket and distinguish it from the current Airs and Pros.

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I usually choose the seat closest to the door. It helps to have the Apple logo half way between the door and the line. Make sure the screen isn't tilted too much, you want it to be obvious that you are "cool" with your Mac. Not make sure you get a large coffee and have the Starbucks logo facing out too. Don't use a heat thing because that makes the logo seem hidden and the cup unappealing. Good luck, and makes us proud out there. Soon you will have people staring in jealousy as you watch cats on YouTube or just play angry birds on Chrome.

:rolleyes:

All joking aside, I went on holiday to Germany and in 3 days didn't see a single Mac. That was until I stopped at a local starbucks for a frap and counted EIGHT as soon as I walked in. There were no PCs around.
 
Because a very high resolution display is not something substantial ? :confused:

It is but you have to remember that spec for spec, the current 15 inch rMBP is $100 CHEAPER than a uMBP.

Considering that precedent, it would be odd for Apple to tack on $400 onto the 13 inch with the only differentiator being the retina display.
 
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