No clue.
Maybe the Thunderbolt ports need to re-handshake once a day. Since it's only blank for a second, I just accept it.
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No clue.
Maybe the Thunderbolt ports need to re-handshake once a day. Since it's only blank for a second, I just accept it.
1920x1200 on a 15" is just perfect, just sit closer.
170 PPI is about what I find acceptable for a monitor at a typical viewing distance for a laptop. For a desktop, it needs to be over 110 PPI (so 21.5" monitors at 1920x1080 just limit for me), OSes on the Vaio Z just display it as 1 point = 1 pixel, just like any standard Mac computer and quite unlike the Retina display.
Windows has had a setting forever for it, though it's in 3 large increments (you can't fine tune it to the exact PPI) :
Windows 8 has a similar setting, they still haven't changed it, though it's now a scaling percentage (100%, 140%, 180%).
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I wouldn't accept it. Not for a 1k$ monitor connected to a 1.5k$ laptop. Sorry. My 200$ monitor does not "go blank once a day", neither should my expensive 1k$ monitor if I had one.
I actually returned 4 24" ACDs in the days because I couldn't get a perfect one. Finally just got my money back. Apple is bad with displays.
LOL ...1920x1200 on a 15" is just perfect, just sit closer.
Yeah and it has been buggy forever too.
Windows 8 might change the game, but most actual apps still wouldn't support flawlessly scaled resolutions.
Are we talking about hopeful/potential Windows support or current support?
I don't use Windows. I've been a Linux desktop user since the late 90s, and a OS X user since I've owned Macs. I just know of the settings, not how they work. I haven't ever used them either, always just leave the default 96 PPI when I have to work with Windows.
I happen to like small UI elements.
Aha. The Adobe bloatware problem. Yeah, you need raw CPU power to run the core software + platform-independent software layer + GUI stack. Or whatever Adobe is doing these days.
And, I'd suspect inertia is another reason. It would take time to update all that documentation. Time is money. Also, until recently there was a serious performance difference between the Pro and non-Pro MacBooks. (When the iBook and/or white plastic MacBook were still around, and before the Core i5 and i7 MacBook Airs debuted.)
But that massive performance gap is a thing of the past. The 2011 MacBook Airs benchmarked better than all 2010 MacBook Pros, for example. Did "design schools" tell their students to dump their 2010 MacBook pros and replace them with 2011 MacBook Pros?
(And, if you're in school, you might be able to wait the extra few seconds or minutes for a massive render to finish. Unless, of course, you wasted too much time, aka "multitasked," too much before starting your project. In which case it's not the MacBook Air's fault, is it?)
FHD is standard quad core isn't, but even with quad core its sill pricey at 1800 for a computer that should be worth half that. No, I am just mentioning a computer that has a renta-ish. I'd rather be in jail than have a PC.
Maybe I'm a bit unusual
But I'd like to see 16 GB ram and a quad core processor. You can skimp on the internal flash drive to keep costs down. Basically I need something with a lot of horsepower but don't need a 15 inch screen.
edit: Well 'need' is a bit strong. If I had to choose between time hiking with my dog and my computer, I'll take the former over the latter.
But I'd like to see 16 GB ram and a quad core processor. You can skimp on the internal flash drive to keep costs down. Basically I need something with a lot of horsepower but don't need a 15 inch screen.
edit: Well 'need' is a bit strong. If I had to choose between time hiking with my dog and my computer, I'll take the former over the latter.
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Did you read his link ?
Last I checked, Autodesk and Apple don't belong to Adobe. Their only common point is they all have a capital A as the first letter of their names.
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Full HD didn't use to be standard, it now is I'll grant you that. It's not Retina-ish though, not close at all. It has nothing to do with Apple's retina display technology and techniques.
And frankly, I dunno why you'd rather be in jail then use modern, fast computers. I'd rather be in jail rather than stuck on old archaic hardware that can barely run a for loop.
If you really insist, I have an old UltraSparc II+ based machine I can sell you. SPARC is the better architecture compared to PPC.
and its going to cost 2 Grand plus ? With heavier load on the weight side ? I am sure its nice but its so cruel to my pocket.
I agree with you, the MBA is a much more competent machine now (or I'm hoping so since I just bought one), it's just easier to tell everyone to get the same machine or limit their choices. It's not often a student can max out their Pro machines, but it does happen. Although I'm curious as to how it'll handle CS6, I don't think my files are ever that demanding. I'm much more interested in CAD performance, but I think I'll just have to test it myself. I suspect that I will experience some slowdown, but seeing as how I'm upgrading from a 2007 machine, it will still be a big improvement. A timely one? That's another story.
As for renders, I've spent anywhere between 5min - 100hours on a single render. From my understanding, most architecture students with massive project deliverables just send their files to render farms, maybe I should look into that!
Why would it cost 2 Grand Plus ? Why would it be heavier ?
The rMBP is both lighter and priced a bit cheaper than the equivalent non-retina model. Why would this tendency change for the 13" ?
Makes no sense to me.
But it wont be too late for Christmas!
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THAT would be a sweet $4000 dollar machine
Hardly. It's their Back to School promotion, which is ideal for clearing out current stock before a refresh. I don't think most students will really hold off buying the mac because of the upcoming refresh - I'm basing this on my experiences as a student where I was one of few who would wait for updates and miss out on the BtS promotion.
No clue.
Maybe the Thunderbolt ports need to re-handshake once a day. Since it's only blank for a second, I just accept it.
I suspect that the early (2011) TB MBP was not quite ready with the 3000 to drive the 27 TB Apple display. I also suspect for Apple to know about this, but again as many time in the past, it is shoved under the rug and kept away from bulletins as there may be no other fix than issuing users of the above setup a new machine with a better graphics card. As for the once every hour 1/3 second pitch black screen, I say: WTF are you Apple going to do for me? Maybe I'll drive them nuts and have the logic board replaced under warranty another 4 or 5 times?
Could be, but mine is driven by an iMac with an AMD Radeon HD 6970M 2048 MB so I don't think it's the GPU that is the issue.
Compared to any other 27" monitor, I value all the extras the ATD gives me over the second of blankness, but to each their own.
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I dont care why discrete GPU is called all the time web surfing but it is. The ML upgrade did nothing to change that. And if you think Apple put out a rMBP that struggles w/opening & scrolling in FaceBook, no chance.
I really don't care what causing the problem nor did say was a pixel problem. But did say it's not resolved, wont be and don't think Apple go half-ass with 13 rMBP w/o graphics processor. My rMBP isn't that bad or would returned it but no way Apple releases one w/o external GPU. Clearly the 15' rMBP been in design phase for years now and issue isn't resolved(because pushing hardware limitations). And god-for-bid you do any gaming what-so-ever then external GPU is on all the time.
BTW.. Nothing personal on your pixels and video card mumbo jumbo but I take AnandTech 15+ page review and me owning a rMBP over your conjecture. Honestly how much you want to bet a software upgrade doesn't resolve this and hardware does..
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6023/the-nextgen-macbook-pro-with-retina-display-review/8
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What did I originally say..
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The only hope for students is for Apple to announce this at their event in September. The BTS promotion still runs for another week after the event and if it is like the rMBP announcement it was available for order that same day which would allow for a promotional deal to work. If Apple were to bring the product out later, it probably wouldn't come out until after Christmas, even after February when the next fiscal quarter starts. This would allow a new product cycle to start into a separate business quarter from the holiday sales that will break revenue records for Apple from a newly presumed released iPhone 5. The newly announce laptop would assist in aiding that next quarters sales from a business standpoint then.
My 'bet' goes on Apple waiting to announce this laptop until after holiday sales.
My 'bet' goes on Apple waiting to announce this laptop until after holiday sales.
At 999$, I would want a ATD that does not blank for a second each day. There is no reason it should. Why would you accept such an obvious fault that should be warrantied right away by the manufacturer ?
Hope this benchmark is referred to the "base model" and the top model would have a quad-codre i7 3612QM (2.1ghz, 35 W)
I would pay an extra-price for this cpu!
If we remember the first benchmark posted some time ago, about the 15" rMBP, the result showed us i i7 2.3ghz w/ 8gb ram, which was just the base model too.....
Considering that Apple usually sells two models and considering that i7 3520M is the highest clocked dual-core cpu available at the moment on the market, if these benchmark are referred to the base model, the only chance for apple to have a "top" model is to build it with a 3612QM, imho.
And I will buy it for sure!
Bye
Andrea
I would pay an extra-price for this cpu!
If we remember the first benchmark posted some time ago, about the 15" rMBP, the result showed us i i7 2.3ghz w/ 8gb ram, which was just the base model too.....
Considering that Apple usually sells two models and considering that i7 3520M is the highest clocked dual-core cpu available at the moment on the market, if these benchmark are referred to the base model, the only chance for apple to have a "top" model is to build it with a 3612QM, imho.
And I will buy it for sure!
Bye
Andrea
No. The MBPr 15" shaved 1.14 lbs off the 'classic model' ( 5.6 - 4.46 = 1.14) or about -20% . If the MBPr 13" dropped 1.1 lbs it would drop to 3.4 lbs. Getting rid of the ODD and substituting a mSATA SSD 'stick' for a 2.5" HDD is likely to drop the same amount of weight for both retina variants. Likewise, Apple shaving the height down to 0.7" will likely also shave a similar amount of aluminum around the sides (leave 0.04 off to approximate the difference).
The change could be close to around 3.2 lbs since the 13" model will not have the same components are the 15". No GPU + VRAM . Which can lead to a smaller fan (since thermal problems reduced. No ODD or HDD to cool. No introduction of GPU in 13" model). No HDMI port.
At 3.2 lbs, the MBPr 13" really isn't that far from the MBA 13" (which weighs in at 2.96). It is just a 0.24 lbs difference. That's small enough that if later made the MBA 13" disappear from the line up only the "Princess and pea" folks are going to complain about weight change.
Your 3.6 lbs likely comes from dropping by the same 20%. The flaw there is that the 15" system is heavier. Therefore, the ODD and HDD are a lower percentage of the overall weight. In a machine which starts off much lighter, the percentage weight drop will go up if remove components of the same weight from each (i.e., they have higher relative impact).
A 3.6 lbs would only be more likely if Apple made less reductions on the 13" model. For example, they keep the additional thickness and use it to keep SO-DIMM slots and either substantially crank up the battery capacity , add a discrete GPU + VRAM + fan capacity, or some combination of those two directions.
But once Apple starts down path of keeping thickness and adding GPU I don't think the drive to save weight is going to be very high. Something across the 3.6-3.9 range would more likely. Unless it is gonig to drop enough weight to threaten the MBA 13", it isn't really worth the handicaps that "max thin" bring.
So I think it is more likely to be either significantly under or over 3.6 lbs.
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YOu know the saying the film ROBOT by Robin Williams.
"why be you when you can be New"
Of course the price will be higher than the exiting model which is why they put in a lot more stuff and frills.