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Settings-><Your Apple ID>->iCloud->iCloud Drive. iCloud Drive is enabled by default and is part of the iCloud storage you have.
But how can it be 11GB, since my iCloud has a maximum of 5GB storage + it just occupies 600MB? I’m confused here.

If I disable it now the mysterious 11GB will be gone?
 
But how can it be 11GB, since my iCloud has a maximum of 5GB storage + it just occupies 600MB? I’m confused here.

If I disable it now the mysterious 11GB will be gone?
You don’t see a breakdown of what is consuming the storage?

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You don’t see a breakdown of what is consuming the storage?

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I guess it’s due to that I’m not on iOS 15 yet on this device.
As long as no locally saved data is gone, I can just disable the iCloud Storage thing.

I’m going to use the QuickStart function in order to transfer to the the new phone. I know, I wanted to do it yesterday but I had something else to do.

It transfers all data also appdata right? It seems pretty neat. Would it also mean, if I reinstall WhatsApp on the new device I’ll also have my chats and media there?

I have 150GB of my storage used. I guess it will take some time :)
 
I don't do any of that and my 13 Pro is still the same as it was on launch day with similar number of cycles. I charge overnight with MagSafe with 20W, USB-C to my MBP, 96W adapter of MBP and only used 5W charger when I didn't have a choice. Don't follow any 80/20 rule either.
Don't see a point in having to purchase an extra smart plug just for that as it doesn't seem to make any diff.

5 months is too short a time frame to see benefit from battery management. Upgrading phones every 1-2 years also may not see a significant benefit (except perhaps the 12 series). 3+ yrs is where the batt mgt really pulls away, and I’m personally a ~6yr guy (‘08 iP3, ‘13 iP5, ‘19 iPXR). My 2.5yo XR is 96% health and can still probably hit 15-16hr Apple SOT spec, although I only have time/patience for ~half that per day.

A $69/1hr battery swap is another option of course, but a smartplug/shortcut-optimization is a fraction that cost, time, effort, and half the end-of-life ‘batt-sucks’ experience (for me, YMMV and all).
 
5 months is too short a time frame to see benefit from battery management. Upgrading phones every 1-2 years also may not see a significant benefit (except perhaps the 12 series). 3+ yrs is where the batt mgt really pulls away, and I’m personally a ~6yr guy (‘08 iP3, ‘13 iP5, ‘19 iPXR). My 2.5yo XR is 96% health and can still probably hit 15-16hr Apple SOT spec, although I only have time/patience for ~half that per day.

A $69/1hr battery swap is another option of course, but a smartplug/shortcut-optimization is a fraction that cost, time, effort, and half the end-of-life ‘batt-sucks’ experience (for me, YMMV and all).
I personally plan on upgrading every 3 years as there’s enough features to justify the upgrade. As long as you can avoid excessive heat on the battery it shouldn’t matter how you charge. And even 4 years shouldn’t make much of a difference at least not significantly.
I stopped caring about all the pampering after I upgraded to 11 Pro 2 years ago. Just one less thing to think about and it works for me. Apple store is about 5 mins away so it’s not gonna be much of an inconvenience either.
 
Is anyone aware, if I can backup my data on this new temporary iCloud storage and then as well do the data transfer via QuickStart just in case anything goes wrong via QuickStart? I really don’t wanna lose my data :eek:
 
My launch day 13 Pro Max battery health is still pretty much the same 5 months later. It has been very consistent so far. I am still using a HomeKit smart plug, a 12-watt changer and stick to the 80/20 rule for charging.

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For what it's worth I've had my 13 Pro for 5 months as well. 84 cycles and at 99.2% health via Coconut Battery. Currently charging overnight on Belkin 3-1 MagSafe stand, prior to that it was 3 months on a cheap wireless puck and I think it was a 9 or 12w plug.

I'm doing 17 cycles per month. Should get close to 3 years out of it based on 500 cycles. Looks like you are doing about 10/month.
 
Is anyone aware, if I can backup my data on this new temporary iCloud storage and then as well do the data transfer via QuickStart just in case anything goes wrong via QuickStart? I really don’t wanna lose my data :eek:
When you do a iPhone to iPhone transfer, all your user data and apps are transferred from the old phone to the new phone. When it completes the new phone will be setup exactly like the old phone.

I do suggest you backup the old phone just in case.
 
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When you do a iPhone to iPhone transfer, all your user data and apps are transferred from the old phone to the new phone. When it completes the new phone will be setup exactly like the old phone.

I do suggest you backup the old phone just in case.
As everything is also still kept on the old phone this is really a great way of doing it. Very safe!
 
I just unboxed the iPhone and I’m doing the first charge via MagSafe.
I have to say the phone definitely heats up. :(
Especially the MagSafe charger is warm.
 
For what it's worth I've had my 13 Pro for 5 months as well. 84 cycles and at 99.2% health via Coconut Battery. Currently charging overnight on Belkin 3-1 MagSafe stand, prior to that it was 3 months on a cheap wireless puck and I think it was a 9 or 12w plug.

I'm doing 17 cycles per month. Should get close to 3 years out of it based on 500 cycles. Looks like you are doing about 10/month.
I haven‘t checked with the App but I assume that I’m charging my phone at least 30 times a month (more since the battery got worse).
I guess I’ve charged my iPhone 8 Plus already 800 times or more.
 
Quick update: Data transfer went smooth, really everything has been carried over! And everything remained on the old phone! Amazing feature :)

I’ve been using it for three hours now (DOT) and I’m at 78% battery.

I’ve heard that the battery calibrates itself during the first charges & the battery life will even increase.
I don’t know if that’s true although…

EDIT: Now I'm at 5:30 DOT and my battery is at 62%
Battery life is good, but not that crazy as I've seen it on YouTube videos.
One iPhone 13 Pro Max reached 18 hours (Browsing!) However that's kinda hard to believe...

I'm on Wi-Fi and I'm only using messengers / some webbrowsing (no CPU intense stuff at all) to test out how many hours are possible.


Maybe after the next charge battery life will still increase?

To be fair, right after the update and the data transfer I've unplugged the phone and started using it. I guess there was some stuff still going on in the background.
 
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As long as you can avoid excessive heat on the battery it shouldn’t matter how you charge.

Thanks for bringing the heat issue up - I too had always assumed heat was the greatest stress factor for Li-ion batts. However looking back at some credible and corroborating research, it seems that high SoC (state of charge) is the more significant stress factor. The research suggests that time spent @ 100% SoC is about equivalent to ~120F (or higher by 2nd source) - clicky.
 
Thanks for bringing the heat issue up - I too had always assumed heat was the greatest stress factor for Li-ion batts. However looking back at some credible and corroborating research, it seems that high SoC (state of charge) is the more significant stress factor. The research suggests that time spent @ 100% SoC is about equivalent to ~120F (or higher by 2nd source) - clicky.
That table’s calculated for 1yr and that’s prolonged which is different from charging it overnight. And with the Optimized Charging enabled that’s cut down even less. So I don’t believe it’d be as much of a contributing factor as the heat IRL.
 
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I’ve noticed something crazy! Web browsing literally drains the battery in no time! It could be related to the scrolling if I browse a bit on this forum I can really watch the percentage dropping down! This can’t be normal! Does anybody has an idea what could cause this ??
While writing this I’ve lost 2% OMG
 
That table’s calculated for 1yr and that’s prolonged which is different from charging it overnight. And with the Optimized Charging enabled that’s cut down even less. So I don’t believe it’d be as much of a contributing factor as the heat IRL.

Yes of course, they are prolonged exaggerations of both stress factors for the sake of ‘science’, but the comparisons are still apples-to-apples. The fact remains - the longer a batt sits at higher temps, or at higher voltages, the more stress on the battery, and the science points to high SoC as the most significant wear factor.

Don’t get me wrong, Apple’s batts (and most consumer devices) are designed to handle both the heat (fast charge/MagSafe) and full 100% charges…. at least to the typical ~500 cycles/80% consumer standard.

My point is that it’s now so simple/easy to use a slow charger overnight (who cares how long that takes), and program a ‘custom optimization’ (w/ $10 smartplug) to reduce those stress factors for much greater service/cycle life - another extreme example.

All that said, there’s no skin off my back if folks want to upgrade phones/replace batteries every few years, but why then, do we see so many battery complaint threads here? There are easy fixes, and they work - folks should use them.
 
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All that said, there’s no skin off my back if folks want to upgrade phones/replace batteries every few years, but why then, do we see so many battery complaint threads here? There are easy fixes, and they work - folks should use them.
You’re taking a small pool among millions of iPhone users for whom saving battery health for as long as they can has a meaningful impact. They’re the ones that start the thread among other reasons such as battery wearing out a lot faster than usual like in the 12 series.
Those who need advise create a thread and ask for them. Those who don’t, like me, just keep using their iPhones without any regards for the battery health. No need to gloat about the ability to afford new iPhones every couple years. That’s why you don’t see threads from the other side.

I use my 13 Pro in a lot of places and having to buy a smart plug for all those places just to extend the life another year would be more expensive than a $69 battery swap. It doesn’t make sense for me and for the added convenience of having to care about one less thing is well worth the price.
 
I’ve noticed something crazy! Web browsing literally drains the battery in no time! It could be related to the scrolling if I browse a bit on this forum I can really watch the percentage dropping down! This can’t be normal! Does anybody has an idea what could cause this ??
While writing this I’ve lost 2% OMG
If you aren’t using one, suggest you use a ad blocker. This site drains battery due to all the ads it displays.
 
Are there actually Adblockers for Safari?
Should I consider a different browser?
Safari actually worked fine for me... I've never noticed such a battery drain on the iPhone 8 Plus.
 
Are there actually Adblockers for Safari?
Should I consider a different browser?
Safari actually worked fine for me... I've never noticed such a battery drain on the iPhone 8 Plus.
The ad blocker is just an extension added to Safari. They are apps you install from the App Store. I use the free AdBlock Pro. There are other ad blockers to choose from. Wipr, AdGuard are ad blockers.
 
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I use my 13 Pro in a lot of places and having to buy a smart plug for all those places just to extend the life another year would be more expensive than a $69 battery swap. It doesn’t make sense for me and for the added convenience of having to care about one less thing is well worth the price.

It’s all good. These issues are like politics - little chance either of us could ever convince the other. I do enjoy a respectful debate on a hobby though (thank you), and perhaps some good can out of it.

I certainly appreciate the idea of comparing temp to SoC on a same terms - everyone seems to understand the heat issue. Then maybe it helps a few folks reading this thread. And finally, if you’re not concerned with high SoC (as most folks - I agree) then perhaps you needn’t worry about high temp either?

Anyways, enjoyed the chat - peace.
 
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