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14 and 18-Core iMac Pros May Arrive Sooner Than Expected [Updated]
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So unfunny, it’s ridiculous. So these have lithium ion batteries powering them?
Or the "Cheese Grater" Mac Pro. There was a case mod that gave it this color, and it looked sick (the good kind).
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The regular iMac can't be used for the tasks you'd buy an iMac Pro for. Pretty sure the GPU is already a non-starter.
Just a little humor.
It’s surely in a different league that the iMac.
I am well aware of what decent laptops/workstations cost
ME - I'm waiting for Rev B then ordering for Music! When do you think Rev B will hit? One Month? 2-3 Months?
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Only fascinated by cores
so this is in my cart
- 2.3GHz 18-core Intel Xeon W processor, Turbo Boost up to 4.3GHz
- 32GB 2666MHz DDR4 ECC memory
- 1TB SSD
- Radeon Pro Vega 56 with 8GB of HBM2 memory
- Magic Mouse 2 - Space Gray
- Magic Keyboard with Numeric Keypad - US English - Space Gray
I do. I’m not going to buy one because I have no need for that kind of horsepower, but I do think it’s one sexy beast and am glad to see Apple demonstrate some renewed commitment to, and interest in, the Mac.
The haters really crack me up, especially complaining about price. Price out a similar PC. They’re not far off. As for upgradability, it’s not the machine for that. The haters need to stop whining and complaining and sit tight for the Mac Pro. Not every “pro” customer cares about upgradability. There are “pro” customers who don’t live in editing bays, nor require tons of internal storage.
This isn’t some lazy attempt to mollify frustrated pro customers. It’s also not designed for the mass market. It demonstrates Apple’s commitment to the professional market and makes me optimistic that the new Mac Pro will impress.
The sales volume will tell the story as to whether this is a success for a product niche. If it is on sale next Christmas you will know the real story. Stop with the PC comparisons equally maxed out, if you do the PC you are not an all in one and it is much more flexible for upgrades in the FUTURE.
Tis a helluva lot better to under promise and over deliver.
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What you witnessed there is a classic example of Poe's Law. @ryanayr pulled the trigger on that outrage just a bit too quickly.
Unfortunately the iMac Pro is reasonably priced for the specs advertised, so poorly delivered sarcasm - should have posted that on iPhone X threads...
"Shiny Things" Alert. Who buys a computer based on color?
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Until Apple makes it deliberately slower in 2018 just before the Modular Mac Pro comes out.
What kind of Pro in 2017 upgrades their computer?
What Apple still doesn't get is that no Pro user wants a non-upgradeable machine and this one enforces their arrogance and desire to enforce this concept on consumers.
FEW PRO USERS WILL BUY A PRO MACHINE WHERE YOU CANNOT UPGRADE THE MEMORY WITHOUT VIOLATING THE WARRANTY! AT ANY PRICE!
This is why prices for even discontinued & unsupported Mac Pros from 2009 even get substantial prices online. Apple just doesn't get it.
Timmy understands "Shiny Things" and has no concept of the pro market. Apple is adrift in an Emoji crisis that will have short term gains. Apple has gone from Insanely Different to Insanely Goofy.
Oh, and finally to add insult to injury, iPhone 7's are partially sold out on Glyde in a bunch of types.
I really think Apple has botched its last most important rollouts through various glitches, demo errors, and now Battery-Gate.
I really think Timmy needs to go.
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Clearly you do nothing professional and don't get it. Why do you think the NEW Mac Pro in a tiny small black box didn't sell? Because it didn't look pretty enough? LOL
Um, the one who uses computer to make money? As in using it as a work tool?
Professional lumberjack will not buy a new axe if it gets dull. He will sharpen it.
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Didn't want to bring lifestyle choices in here, but there you go.
How did my post have anything remotely to do with "lifestyle choices"? The very fact that you said that is scary in fact, and borderline homophobic, especially since I'm gay like Tim Cook!
It has to do with superficial distracting things like Animojis and other things teenagers like, but NOT professionals.
Get off your politically correct high horse!
Give it 6 months. First it has to be revised then it has to go through the supply chain, then it has to be last in line.
You don’t speak for all users. The iMac Pro is for those pros who are currently using iMacs, but need more. It’s nothing to do with arrogantly enforcing some concept—some pros prefer all in ones. Others want a modular, upgradable Mac Pro, and that’s coming next year.
But please stop spreading bad info. Upgrading the memory doesn’t void the warranty. You can have Apple do it, or an authorized service center, your local Mom and Pop, or even do it yourself if you’re able.
However most pros will order what they need from the start. If they need 128GB they’re not going to order 32 or 64 with the thought of adding more later in a year or two, since that means they’d have a poor-performing machine from day one, until that upgrade. If they need 64 or 128 to do their work, they know it and order it. And if their initial requirements change, they can upgrade.
And the cylinder did sell, Apple have said so themselves. The problem is it can’t meet the requirements of certain pros—those who need one, power hungry video card, especially nVidia. (Or any other PCIe add on card, for the that matter.) Apple misread the future and designed themselves into a corner with one CPU+ dual, smaller GPUs. That market didn’t really develop.
With the triangle inside the cylinder, there was no way to satisfy the big CPU + big GPU need of some pros. eGPUs over Thunderbolt 2 don’t perform well enough to meet the requirement. So they have to bring something different to market.
To make matters worse, they took too long to realize they needed something new. The new generation Xeons that were recently released won’t show up in a Mac Pro until later next year. A couple years ago the roadmap was probably just to refresh the cylinder. Doing a reset and starting over (too late) with a new design messed up the timing.
There should have been a Mac Pro released along with the iMac Pro. But better to take the time to do it right then try to rush something out.
Apple isn’t perfect, and when they make mistakes they try to fix them. New modular, upgradable Mac Pros are coming if that’s what you want, but you’ll have to wait. Ranting about “emoji crisis”, demos, batteries, Glyde (whatever that is), “shiny things” and Mr. Cook is not really productive. It’s just useless, self-inflicted drama—needless distractions of time and energy that do nothing to advance your priorities in any way.
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Absolutely. I expect the iMac Pro will take 50-75% of the market, with the modular Mac Pro taking 25-50%.
We'll never know the exact mix, but in a couple years they might tell us which platform sells more.
Speak for yourself, dude.
I wouldn’t mind being able to easily upgrade RAM and SSD, but I can live without it. And RAM upgrades in dome limited fashion will apparently be possible.
Three to four years down the road, it’s time for a new machine anyway.
Upgrading the CPU hasn’t been realistic in a long, long time, as it almost invariably comes with the need for a new socket and/or chipset, i.e. you might as well get a new logic board. Oh, and your RAM is no longer the most efficient type. And further and further down the rabbit hole. Just get a new machine.
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I do that. Have been for a long time.
That analogy makes no sense, unless the upgrades you buy are the same old components over and over again.
For those saying the price is out of line, We needed a few High Core machine to run simulations in the automotive industry. We bought a MAC and a PC. The Mac will be my personal machine and the PC will run 10-14 days (non stop) for the final simulation.
I currently have a Mac Pro (pre-trash can) and have not had to add a single upgrade to it in 7 years. My old one is a 2 x 2.4 GHz Quad Core Xeon, 24GB 1066MH with ATI Radeon HD 5870 1GB. It honestly runs well, however I am starting more simulations in both Fusion 360 (Mac Side) and Inventor (running on Parallels).
We have purchased new software running about $45k so we opted to get a solo PC machine for that. Keep in mind the DELL has NO 5K monitor included and we got 2 extra cores.
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LOL no.
I currently have a Mac Pro (pre-trash can) and have not had to add a single upgrade to it in 7 years. My old one is a 2 x 2.4 GHz Quad Core Xeon, 24GB 1066MH with ATI Radeon HD 5870 1GB. It honestly runs well, however I am starting more simulations in both Fusion 360 (Mac Side) and Inventor (running on Parallels).
We have purchased new software running about $45k so we opted to get a solo PC machine for that. Keep in mind the DELL has NO 5K monitor included and we got 2 extra cores.
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LOL no.
While deliveries of the first 8 and 10-core iMac Pro orders are set to begin as soon as next week, customers who opted for upgraded 14 or 18-core options were given shipping estimates ranging from 6 to 8 weeks for the machine when ordering.
It appears the 6 to 8 week estimate may not be quite accurate for all orders, as MacRumors reader Adam, who ordered a top-of-the-line machine with an 18-core processor, has received an updated delivery estimate of January 8 to January 9, which will be just a little over three weeks after the iMac Pro was first was ordered.
MacRumors forum member gobluejd has also received a sooner-than-expected shipping estimate for his 14-core iMac Pro, which will arrive on January 9 to 10 instead of the end of January.
Other customers who purchased 14 and 18-core machines may also be seeing updated delivery estimates from Apple, though on Apple's site, iMac Pro orders placed today still list the same 6 to 8 week shipping estimate for high-end iMac Pro configurations.
It's likely that once initial orders go out, Apple will be able to improve those shipping estimates for new orders.
Customers who ordered 8 and 10-core machines will begin receiving their orders in the near future, as some iMac Pro orders started shipping just this morning in the United States and Canada.
The iMac Pro is still listed as unavailable in retail stores. Apple said the new machine would be available in stores by the middle of this week, a deadline that's been missed, but we could still see them in pop up in stores on Friday or Saturday.
Apple's iMac Pro is a workstation-class machine aimed at professional users who have demanding workflows. The iMac Pro supports up to an 18-core Xeon W processor, 128GB ECC RAM, an AMD Radeon Pro Vega 64 graphics card with 16GB of HBM2 memory, and up to 4TB of SSD storage.
Pricing on the iMac Pro starts at $4,999 and goes up to $13,199 for a fully maxed out model.
Article Link: 14 and 18-Core iMac Pros May Arrive Sooner Than Expected
Apple retracted their ETA update (Jan 8-9) on my order. Online status still shows Feb 5-19
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The “pro” snobbery gets old, doesn’t it? The only “pro” is a “pro” like me... Ugh.
Anyone using a computer these days for computationally intensive work is probably replacing machines every few years as you suggest. And any serious “pro” is going to buy what they need when they buy a new machine, not buy the entry level model with an eye towards upgrading. My guess is most of the “pro” users on this forum complaining endlessly about upgradability aren’t really “pro” at all.
The one upgrade that does make sense to me is the GPU. If the trash can Mac Pro had been compatible with any number of standard cards, I don’t think anyone would have complained about upgradability.
I see expansion as the bigger issue. A lot of professional users, especially those in creative fields, need storage. Having a rat’s nest of cables and external drives is a turn off. I get that.
That said, there are still numerous professional users who don’t care about either expansion or upgradability. For them the iMac Pro is a fantastic option.