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This, but then 90% of Apples customer base really don't care about ARM, M1 or whatever, they just want a device that allows them to do whatever they need to do and for the majority, that is what they have now.
Right, but I'd wager that those same 90% who don't care about ARM or M1, do care about battery life, heat, and the ML nodes (as they speed up the Photos app).
 
Only reason I got the 16" was because it was more powerful than the 13".

Will there be significant differences between the 14" and 16"? Or will it just be the screen size and battery life?
I guess so...the 14" will be still on M1 gen....probably named M1X to enable more ports and more displays support and 32 gb Ram
The 16" will be on Apples 5nm+ arhi like the iphone 13 with bigger gpu in SoC but dont expect like the 14" in March....but around mid-late 2021
 
Pretty sure Docker's already got an early release going https://www.docker.com/blog/download-and-try-the-tech-preview-of-docker-desktop-for-m1/

I'm a full stack (but primarily front-end) dev and I'm planning on going 14" M1 as soon as it's released. It'll get figured out by then.
yeah i saw that thinking, if it doesn't do that now, it's going to soon. Unless you really need it to be x86_64 linux; I imagine that'll be trickier. they were demoing a linux vm at wwdc even.
 
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Right, but I'd wager that those same 90% who don't care about ARM or M1, do care about battery life, heat, and the ML nodes (as they speed up the Photos app).

Absolutely, there are some in every category that will care to upgrade now, especially those that had the misfortune to buy a previous generation oven from Apple. That will make some upgrade, others for the battery life. Most, no.
 
Both are wrong. Most of the people that gets the high-end, most powerful MacBook pros are people that fully use the resources. So, Docker support is important. Good news is that Docker already released a preview support for M1. Vbox may take longer to support (if will), but you have another alternatives such as Parallels.

Developers should move to the cloud anyways, most clouds are bringing remote Apple Silicon Macs and hopefully Apple releases it's "Apple Cloud Infrastructure" for the public soon.

Please...not while I'm drinking milk.
 
Would I love a 16” MBP running Apple silicon? Of course. But if they can’t run Linux using Virtualbox or at least Docker, who is going to buy these? It doesn’t matter if it’s 10x faster if you can’t actually use it to do work.
I used to think this way, but I pretty quickly realized that all I was doing was switching my Kubernetes context between the one running in on my machine and the one running in the cloud. kubectl doesn't care where the cluster is, so it just doesn't matter. Even the IDE supports a cluster-agnostic workflow.

The only time it made a difference was when I was building huge images that took forever to push. But, really, if your images are huge, you're doing it wrong. I switched to minimal containers with a single Golang executable and I can't tell the difference between local k8s and one in the cloud.
 
Would I love a 16” MBP running Apple silicon? Of course. But if they can’t run Linux using Virtualbox or at least Docker, who is going to buy these? It doesn’t matter if it’s 10x faster if you can’t actually use it to do work.
Well you are in luck , because Docker is working on M1 as of 2 weeks ago.
 
I hope my MBA 2017 lasts me two more years and I don’t need to buy a computer right away. With the COVID situation, I’d rather see money in my account than in Apple’s.

I also hope the 14” display brings a resolution bump.
The plan is to shorten product life. Good luck with the new one!
 
If Apple actually moves the 13.3" to 14", I'll be very torn between that and the 16". If they stay 13.3" I'll def pick up the new 16".

Really hoping for:

- wi-fi 6e in the new macbooks (not just the current wi-fi 6)
- no touchbar. Come on Apple, just give this up already, or make it optional.
- 4 USB-C ports (and ideally some other ports, but that's not gonna happen)

Don't care so much but would be nice:
- mini-LED
- better webcam

Other than that these macbooks are excellent. Apple Silicon is killer and it seems like they already have AV1 hardware decoding!
 
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The day Apple announced Apple silicon for MAC and the first introduction of M1 with undeniable performance/feature/power consumption jump; everyone realized Apple targeting to expand MAC market share with continuous introduction of higher performance, better features, lower power consumption MACs and bring price of previous gen MACs down. MAC upgrade(14",16",iMAC) continues so MAC market expansion.
In MAC user's mind, transition is already happened and next MAC buyer is buying M based MAC laptops or iMACs.When Apple talking about 2 years full transition means all hardware(MAC Pro) and software already migrated natively to "M"
 
Sadly I'm expecting a ~20% price bump for the 14" MBP vs. current 13" models, to further differentiate it from what I expect will be a continued MacBook Air M1 model.

This would explain the minimal price difference ($50 I think) between the Air and Pro models with the same SSD size. The next Pro will be more like a $300 difference all other specs being close to equal.

No matter - will be ordering a 14" model the day it launches. My 2015 15" gave up 2.5 years ago (logic board) and been living in Windows on a Matebook X Pro since then.
 
Sadly I'm expecting a ~20% price bump for the 14" MBP vs. current 13" models, to further differentiate it from what I expect will be a continued MacBook Air M1 model.
Why would that be? If they wanted that they could do it with current gen M1s as well
 


Apple is expected to release new 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro models with Apple silicon in the second half of 2021, boosting Apple's market share of notebook CPUs to about 7%, according to Taiwanese research firm TrendForce.

macbook-pro-13-inch-banner.jpeg

In July 2020, analyst Ming-Chi Kuo claimed that new 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro models with Apple silicon and an all-new design will launch in the late second quarter or third quarter of this year. Kuo later added that these MacBook Pro models will feature Mini-LED displays for increased brightness, improved contrast, richer colors, and more.

Apple previously indicated that its transition away from Intel processors in Macs will take about two years to be completed, with other rumored Apple silicon Macs including a redesigned 24-inch iMac and a smaller Mac Pro-like desktop computer. Last month, Nikkei Asia reported that a new iMac Pro is also in the works for 2021.

TrendForce said that Intel faces increasing competitive pressure from both Apple and AMD in the CPU market and will need to deliver an "appropriate product strategy" in response. Last month, New York-based hedge fund Third Point urged Intel to take "immediate" action to restructure and curb the loss of talented chip designers.

Apple's first M1 chip has proven to be very impressive, with the base model MacBook Air outperforming the highest-end Intel-based 16-inch MacBook Pro in benchmarks. Apple says the chip delivers industry-leading performance per watt.

Article Link: 14-Inch and 16-Inch MacBook Pro Models Expected to Boost Apple Silicon's Market Share in Second Half of 2021
I'm going to wait until all the issues are resolved first. My Magic Mouse disconnecting multiple times daily, caldigit T3+ dock causing kernel panics, and excessive battery drain are more than I want to deal with on my Mac, when the Intel didn't have any of these issues.
 
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Would I love a 16” MBP running Apple silicon? Of course. But if they can’t run Linux using Virtualbox or at least Docker, who is going to buy these? It doesn’t matter if it’s 10x faster if you can’t actually use it to do work.
LOL! I'm developing software 8 hours a day every day on an M1 Air and never need Linux, Virtualbox or Docker. Xcode, Visual Code, Terminal, Homebrew, Node.js, everything works great. and builds super fast.
 
For the average user what they already have is faster than they need, they will care less about 3x faster until they need to upgrade. It's laughable that so many believe people need 3x faster when they are not even pushing what they have.

LOL, you have no idea how many people are doing video editing or software development, where the M1 has lead to substantial productivity increases.
 
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I'm going to wait until all the issues are resolved first. My Magic Mouse disconnecting multiple times daily, and my caldigit T3+ dock causing kernel panics, and excessive battery drain are more than I want to deal with on my Mac, when the Intel didn't have any of these issues.
Yea, I wouldn't buy a new Mac either if I was going to keep the same ****** peripherals.
 
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I'm going to wait until all the issues are resolved first. My Magic Mouse disconnecting multiple times daily, caldigit T3+ dock causing kernel panics, and excessive battery drain are more than I want to deal with on my Mac, when the Intel didn't have any of these issues.

That's odd. I have a T3+ on my Mini M1 and it's been fine. Have you tried changing the cable? I have like a ton of stuff plugged into the T3 as well: a DP monitor, a bunch of hard drives, headphones, optical out, and it's been rock solid. I think the only port I'm not using is the ethernet port.
 
Count me in. I’ve been using my 2018 15” for Zoom meetings everyday since March ’20 and I'm really getting tired of the incessant fan noise. Can’t wait to dump the dGPU and it’s associated battery and heat implications provided the new 14” can connect to more than 1 monitor and supports more than 16GB RAM.

Intel is awful.
 
Would I love a 16” MBP running Apple silicon? Of course. But if they can’t run Linux using Virtualbox or at least Docker, who is going to buy these? It doesn’t matter if it’s 10x faster if you can’t actually use it to do work.

Me! My work is done using native apps - 10X faster / better memory management is exactly what I’m looking for.
I couldn’t care less about legacy apps or Windows emulation - not relevant for my work. My understanding is that VMWare / Parallels is working on a solution for those usage cases, however.
 
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