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Would I love a 16” MBP running Apple silicon? Of course. But if they can’t run Linux using Virtualbox or at least Docker, who is going to buy these? It doesn’t matter if it’s 10x faster if you can’t actually use it to do work.
What is work? What work? Now I realized that what I've been doing is not work, only some guys have that power. Give me a break.
 
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Apple is expected to release new 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro models with Apple silicon in the second half of 2021, boosting Apple's market share of notebook CPUs to about 7%, according to Taiwanese research firm TrendForce.

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In July 2020, analyst Ming-Chi Kuo claimed that new 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro models with Apple silicon and an all-new design will launch in the late second quarter or third quarter of this year. Kuo later added that these MacBook Pro models will feature Mini-LED displays for increased brightness, improved contrast, richer colors, and more.

Apple previously indicated that its transition away from Intel processors in Macs will take about two years to be completed, with other rumored Apple silicon Macs including a redesigned 24-inch iMac and a smaller Mac Pro-like desktop computer. Last month, Nikkei Asia reported that a new iMac Pro is also in the works for 2021.

TrendForce said that Intel faces increasing competitive pressure from both Apple and AMD in the CPU market and will need to deliver an "appropriate product strategy" in response. Last month, New York-based hedge fund Third Point urged Intel to take "immediate" action to restructure and curb the loss of talented chip designers.

Apple's first M1 chip has proven to be very impressive, with the base model MacBook Air outperforming the highest-end Intel-based 16-inch MacBook Pro in benchmarks. Apple says the chip delivers industry-leading performance per watt.

Article Link: 14-Inch and 16-Inch MacBook Pro Models Expected to Boost Apple Silicon's Market Share in Second Half of 2021
If everyone has been as ready to pull the trigger on a 14 inches as I've been since March 2020, then yes, the marketshare is going to go through the roof. I am bored waiting, I almost bought a MBA because it's been so long.
The excitement from the Mac users within my company isinteresting too, everyone were saying "if I can't run Windows I don't want it" back in July and now everyone is asking for one of these "new CPU" Macs. We have to tell them to hold on for 4 ports 14 inch and 16 inch. Q2/Q3 is going to be wild.
 
The only reason I can think of as to why the 14 and 16 are not out already is that they will probably have a newer chipset in them. I would imagine a M2 chip that makes a bigger demarcation between consumer and "Pro" markets that really makes the "Pro" moniker obvious. Larger RAM, Bigger GPU and most importantly, more I/O ports. I can also see the M2 being designed to work together with other M2 chips on the same motherboard so that the Desktop versions of the Mac Pro and iMac Pro can use their onboard power supplies to run multiple M2 chips. This would be like the old cheese grater Mac towers that had multiple CPU options. This way the desktop machine could easily be much more powerful than the laptops without having yet a third chipset designed.
 
now this is a total "click and bait" article by Trendforce, not a single new piece of information :(

I sure hope Apple will release the new laptops this year, but only they know for sure ...
 
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Disagree 100% !

If Apple wanted to increase their market share, they could have done that with their "first wave" of M1 Mac products !

Instead, they went after (Higher) Gross Margin !
who says that Apple is not increasing their market share in the segment that the 2 M1 notebooks play? I bet they will!

Also, absolutely will Apple want to increase their overall market share, they want a larger footprint to bring all their services not only to mobile (iOS) but also to laptop/desktops, a $2T+ company has to, or Wall Street will devalue them. Plus they have more than a competitive product and ecosystem, so it's almost a "natural" to happen ...
Let's revisit this in 1 year/2years from now and look at the numbers ...
 
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I just want a wedge design Macbook Pro. Can't believe this isn't a "Pro" feature. Who doesn't use an angled keyboard for their PC?
Came here to say this. Assuming heat can be managed, I’d trade some battery life gains for a more ergonomic wedge shape any day. Perhaps that’s the plan for the redesigned Air which is all I really need.
 
If Apple could bring the same speaker tech to the 14” as they have in the current 16” MBP, I’d love that. The only other reasons I’d have to go for the 16” if they did that would be bigger screen (which I can live without) and better performance (which may not be a factor since we’re not dealing with discrete GPUs and the M-series processors seem to be just as fast no matter what computer they’re in).
 
If Tim Apple somehow gives a dGPU upgrade option for the new 14”, I will legitimately cry tears of joy.
 
I think that Apple needs to do a discrete GPU to give the MacBook Pro 16 enough power to pass the systems 1 year ago. I love my MacBook Pro 16 2019, but the M1 needs a lot more GPU power. I could see the use of a AMD 6000 mobile chip to make me want to upgrade in a couple of years.
 
I would definitely like to buy a 16" M-series MacBook Pro. With Apple Silicon, I think that I'll no longer have a need for a more powerful computer. I don't even do editing in 4K or anything that intensive. The most computing power I need is to occasionally encode mp4 movie files into mkv format and now I should be able to do this on a laptop without the machine breaking a sweat. Right now, I use a 2018 6-core, i7 Mac mini for this encoding task and the Mac mini is also used as my PLEX server. Current Apple Silicon is already amazing and the next iteration will likely be mind-blowing. I won't ever buy another Intel Mac even if it's really inexpensive. I can't stand to hear fans revving up just because I'm doing some simple task. I'm going to fully support Apple Silicon Macs. I can't believe that Apple has managed to outperform my computer needs. I'm really happy about this. Thanks, Apple.

My current daily computer is a pristine 2015 15" i7 MacBook Pro and I absolutely enjoy using it for browsing and printing and other simple tasks. The fans don't come on much so it's a pleasure to use. I'll retire it when I get a new MacBook Pro and that will be the end of it. I don't want any display smaller than 15". I can hardly wait for a 16" MacBook Pro with Apple Silicon inside. Apple has knocked it out of the ballpark this time.
 
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I bought a new Macbook Air M1 and love it, it's fast and very responsive. But as an IT guy in a Windows world, there's no way I can use it for work without x86 (x64) emulation. Nobody is working on that, parallels desktop is real, but it is not an emulator, so it runs Arm code only. Windows for Arm is the biggest joke in history since the first version of Windows Vista -- it doesn't do any better at Windows x86 code than MacOS itself, so that doesn't help at all. Crossover is useless except for it's preprogrammed installs and I suspect any other Wine derivitive is as well. What a total waste of time for me. :( No way I'm going to buy another M1 machine until I can run x86 Windows in a VM.
 
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The only reason I can think of as to why the 14 and 16 are not out already is that they will probably have a newer chipset in them. I would imagine a M2 chip that makes a bigger demarcation between consumer and "Pro" markets that really makes the "Pro" moniker obvious. Larger RAM, Bigger GPU and most importantly, more I/O ports. I can also see the M2 being designed to work together with other M2 chips on the same motherboard so that the Desktop versions of the Mac Pro and iMac Pro can use their onboard power supplies to run multiple M2 chips. This would be like the old cheese grater Mac towers that had multiple CPU options. This way the desktop machine could easily be much more powerful than the laptops without having yet a third chipset designed.

I agree with most of this, but there won’t be multiple M2 chips in those desktop machines. Small chance that there are chips with multiple SoC die in the package, but most likely they just shove more cores on the same SoC for the super-high-end. There are too many issues with multi-socket system architectures that make it not worth it.
 
I agree with most of this, but there won’t be multiple M2 chips in those desktop machines. Small chance that there are chips with multiple SoC die in the package, but most likely they just shove more cores on the same SoC for the super-high-end. There are too many issues with multi-socket system architectures that make it not worth it.
First and foremost I wonder how they are going about graphics power. They need to provide some means of seriously accelerating ML and graphics workloads and such.
Preferably some modular solution for obvious reasons, in particular in connection the Mac Pro
If they are not continuing with AMD/Nvidia, I wonder what solution they got up their sleeves, assuming they must have something
 
First and foremost I wonder how they are going about graphics power. They need to provide some means of seriously accelerating ML and graphics workloads and such.
Preferably some modular solution for obvious reasons, in particular in connection the Mac Pro
If they are not continuing with AMD/Nvidia, I wonder what solution they got up their sleeves, assuming they must have something
They have their own “discrete” GPU coming. Not clear what bus it operates on, or if it’s a separate die in the SoC package, or if it shares system cache with the SoC. But stay tuned.
 
They have their own “discrete” GPU coming. Not clear what bus it operates on, or if it’s a separate die in the SoC package, or if it shares system cache with the SoC. But stay tuned.
So much I assumed, yes.
The bus used will be interesting to see, very much agreed. I have a feeling it won‘t be PCIe - based, but this is just an uninformed guess
 
now this is a total "click and bait" article by Trendforce, not a single new piece of information :(

I sure hope Apple will release the new laptops this year, but only they know for sure ...
Maybe that's Apples way of secretly testing the marketplace...throw out some unsubstantiated rumors and see how people react.
 
I hope the 16" has the option of M1 or M1X as some of our users do not need more power, they just want the bigger screen, so a lower cost 16" is what i am hoping for when Apple Silicon comes to these.

I'm the opposite, while I like the bigger screen, the only way I'd go for the 14" is if I could build it out as much as the 16". But at that point then it's just a decision on the cost of the screen (if $100 then bigger, if $500 then smaller).
 
I've heard that the M1/Apple Silicon chip only supports 1 external monitor. At least in the first models it launched with. Hope they've addressed it with the bigger Macbook Pros. I'm all in on a 16", but as a 2-monitor user that's a big issue
 
I don't want a 16", too big. I suspect the 14" will simply be the current design, more or less with smaller bezels. I only hope that they put a dGPU in it, or at least something significantly better and more capable than even the improvements the M1 brought. But I suspect Apple will only put a decent GPU in the 16.
 
For the average user what they already have is faster than they need, they will care less about 3x faster until they need to upgrade. It's laughable that so many believe people need 3x faster when they are not even pushing what they have.
Often true, but the M1 series brings more than just a need for speed! For those users it will bring little to no fan noise, a cool computer that can be used on a lap and stonking battery life.

Those are some pretty impressive changes that they won't really know about until they actually get one, but once they do, they'll appreciate it.
 
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They are not going to increase their market share by much if they stay at these prices.
 
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