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They are not going to increase their market share by much if they stay at these prices.
I am not so sure this is really where they are focussing on market share anyway, that is clear from the cheaper variants on the iPhone and iPad range. That is really where they need/want to increase market share. It's their biggest opportunity to grow.

Apple is not going to produce cheaper MacBooks, not cheaper than you would notice anyway. The Mac Mini got a cheaper starting point certainly but then I can see how they could do that when you look inside it now and see it is virtually empty.
 
So much I assumed, yes.
The bus used will be interesting to see, very much agreed. I have a feeling it won‘t be PCIe - based, but this is just an uninformed guess

I think that’s right. I think they will want to focus on the “shared memory” aspects of their new system architecture. So I assume that you have something that looks like M1, but where the RAM goes you instead have a giant system cache. Then you have a separate big die for the GPU with 100 cores or whatever, with access to that same system cache. Just a guess, though.

There may still be a PCI bus with slots in the “Mac Pro,” and you’ll be able to plug in GPUs (if drivers are available), but they won’t benefit from the direct memory sharing with the CPU cores. Again, just a guess.
 
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I think that’s right. I think they will want to focus on the “shared memory” aspects of their new system architecture. So I assume that you have something that looks like M1, but where the RAM goes you instead have a giant system cache. Then you have a separate big die for the GPU with 100 cores or whatever, with access to that same system cache. Just a guess, though.

There may still be a PCI bus with slots in the “Mac Pro,” and you’ll be able to plug in GPUs (if drivers are available), but they won’t benefit from the direct memory sharing with the CPU cores. Again, just a guess.
Full ACK.
Wouldn‘t be surprised if they’d release something totally out of the box. Needs to be modular somehow for the Mac Pro I guess, but could be something very alien/novel. We‘ll see. Interesting times
 
Would I love a 16” MBP running Apple silicon? Of course. But if they can’t run Linux using Virtualbox or at least Docker, who is going to buy these? It doesn’t matter if it’s 10x faster if you can’t actually use it to do work.
Seriously?? You think a significant percentage of Mac users run Virtualbox and Docker? What cave do you live in?
 
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Would I love a 16” MBP running Apple silicon? Of course. But if they can’t run Linux using Virtualbox or at least Docker, who is going to buy these? It doesn’t matter if it’s 10x faster if you can’t actually use it to do work.
Apple’s relentless efforts to eliminate user freedom from their machines has gotten too much for me. I’m sure docker and virtualbox will be updated soon enough but I doubt there will ever be a way to boot into Linux or at the very least actually have real control of my computer by disabling invasive features that I don’t want.

I’m in the same camp in regards to not really caring about speed improvements so long as the software and firmware is so locked down. Frankly this route of highly proprietary, locked down system hardware many companies will be following after Apple’s “bravery” is concerning from a consumer standpoint. I think people need to take a moment to educate themselves on the direction of computing products and realize we’re heading down a dangerous path.

FYI for the people jumping to reply to this with the standard “Consumers don’t care about this, Apple can do what they want with their products,” I’ve heard it all before so no need to throw away your time
 
Disagree 100% !

If Apple wanted to increase their market share, they could have done that with their "first wave" of M1 Mac products !

Instead, they went after (Higher) Gross Margin !
I think Apple was wise to release the 13" M1's first, especially during the holidays. The early reviews did an excellent job of fanning the flames of interest and anticipation. Now that people can see Apple is serious about the performance and ability of the M series, the momentum will shift into high gear for the rumored 14 and 16" M series, provided said Macs follow the same pricing history. I predict sales will be much more for the upcoming M Macs, versus the 13" M Macs, even though they are excellent machines. So many here have fallen for the "pro" sales gimmick moniker and with the new M series, said people will finally be able to say the M 16 MBP is the "pro" model they have been waiting for so many years.
 
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Just ordered a base 13“ MBA which replaces my 13“ 16GB 2020 Pro.

Should be fine until the 14“/16“ gets released
 
Apple’s relentless efforts to eliminate user freedom from their machines has gotten too much for me. I’m sure docker and virtualbox will be updated soon enough but I doubt there will ever be a way to boot into Linux or at the very least actually have real control of my computer by disabling invasive features that I don’t want.
See this: https://asahilinux.org/about/
 
I've heard that the M1/Apple Silicon chip only supports 1 external monitor. At least in the first models it launched with. Hope they've addressed it with the bigger Macbook Pros. I'm all in on a 16", but as a 2-monitor user that's a big issue
They support two monitors. Laptops have one monitor built in, but MacMini supports two external monitors.
 
I am liking the 13.3" form factor, but I'd love me a 14" MacBook Pro with multi display support etc..
I hope they keep this form factor and manage to squeeze that 14" display into it.

What price are we looking at you think? Around same as current 13.3"?
 
what year?)
lol. MBP mid-2012 2.9Ghz i7 16GB RAM, 500Gb SDD. Runs fine for what I do (Teams/email/PowerPoint, excel). One Drive will bog it down and Bluetooth connectivity sometimes drops a few times during the day, but nothing that I cant workaround.
 
Would I love a 16” MBP running Apple silicon? Of course. But if they can’t run Linux using Virtualbox or at least Docker, who is going to buy these? It doesn’t matter if it’s 10x faster if you can’t actually use it to do work.
I thought the same thing. However, I am now running the tech preview version of Parallels and the pre-release WIndows 10 for ARM from Microsoft on a 13” MacBook Pro - no problems. Works incredibly well.
 
I originally bought the current M1 as a stop gap. I wanted to try and play with the M1, and get used to ARM64 for my dev work.

I had thought I'd jump on the 16 the second it came out, but I've mellowed with that view since. The 13 inch M1 is such a nice machine, I'm just gonna use it for a few years and then trade up.


By the way just so folks know, everything works great. Intel apps (though very few I use, only GPGTools is Intel on my machine atm) work great, and most apps have ARM builds now, even on homebrew.
Same situation. I actually sold my Intel 16” MacBook Pro and got the 13” MacBook Pro with the M1 processor. I’m shocked by the performance. I miss the larger screen a little but actually like the portability. I connect to a large monitor via a Brydge vertical dock when I need a large screen. I expect I’ll seriously consider the 14” when it is available.
 
Same situation. I actually sold my Intel 16” MacBook Pro and got the 13” MacBook Pro with the M1 processor. I’m shocked by the performance. I miss the larger screen a little but actually like the portability. I connect to a large monitor via a Brydge vertical dock when I need a large screen. I expect I’ll seriously consider the 14” when it is available.

Ugh I'm in the spot where I desperately need a new laptop but want a 16" not the 13". I have a work laptop, but really need a personal one. My old 2011 MBP is almost unusable, and the fan/heat is beyond annoying.
 
May not be necessary. The M1 igpu is very, very good. The next step up would likely approached dGPU performance.

I know, I've been hearing good things so far...but I'm always wary about sustained graphical loads over a few hours. I'm do a lot of video and photo editing for work with 4K footage and RAW photos, so I'm pretty much taxing my laptop graphically all day for hours on end.

It would be amazing if the current iGPU was just as good as a dGPU for sustained performance, but that's not the case with the new M1 Macs. I do hope that changes with the next gen of Apple Silicon though.
 
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We may be in a small % of potential buyers, but I personally won't invest in Apple Silicon until Linux gets better support. I'm keeping an eye on Asahi Linux.
 
lol. MBP mid-2012 2.9Ghz i7 16GB RAM, 500Gb SDD. Runs fine for what I do (Teams/email/PowerPoint, excel). One Drive will bog it down and Bluetooth connectivity sometimes drops a few times during the day, but nothing that I cant workaround.
my bad, i thought you meant the 12". yea, '12 is a bit old. i have a '13 imac in the office, and before covid i was seriously considering brining my air to work with me instead...
 
Um, the majority of people in the market for these machines. I do “work” on my computer. Don’t need Linux.

You're overlooking the incontestable fact that 2021 is going to be The Year of the Linux Desktop."

Stop laughing! It's gonna happen! This year there's no stopping us!
 
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