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It sounds like they are going to put some pro back into the pro models.
Frankly it's more like putting some computer back into the pro models.

So finally we are seeing the benefit of Apple firing Jony Ive.

I know he had lost touch with reality when he ordered the ports on the side of the MBP by size, from largest to smallest. I thought to myself "What are the chances that an analysis of how ports are used would lead to a size-based order". It was clear that looks were taking preference to function. When a designer does that. It is time to find a new designer.

The way to design a computer is to look at how users use them, see problems, and address that problem. So if you see them using a pocket full of USB-C to X dongles, you need to recognize that as a problem and fix it. If you see then dragging around an external disk drive to fix the internal storage problem, then you fix that.

When I built stuff for a living, I'd have the company send by out and I'd watch our customers and take notes on the time they spent (or rather wasted) doing various tasks then would work on what we could do to address this wasted time.

Size ordering the ports was stupid because it places similar-sized ports close to each other where they can be confused. That touch bar was invented just to be different for product differentiation, for no other reason.

Let's hope that get back to looking at how users use the product.

There does seem to be a shift in thinking of late. Whether we truly get full ports and SD slots remains to be seen.

I think Jony's focus was heavily weighted on visual aesthetics given his background/education. Perhaps with Jeff Williams engineering background, there will be a greater balance of form and function.
 
They haven't had that in a long time. If they wanted innovation they need a lot more memory, way faster video, more ports, 32tb ssd etc etc etc.
Agree, although what you've described are sense-checked futureproof components.

When it comes to innovation they should dream out what's next for the future of the Mac and the computer – just not like the infamous "What's a computer" advertisement. Even Microsoft has made more honest efforts with their Surface computers (not going to debate whether they're a commercial hit or not).
 
I only can wish from Apple to:
  1. add more type-c ports
  2. 16" m2 with 32 gb ram
  3. 4k res?
  4. slim bezels
No need for more than 4 usbC ports into a laptop...people i think prefer an Sd card instead (remember if apple goes with magsafe, then you have all 4 ports free even when you are charging)
16" m2 with 32 gb ram...yes, it will be almost for sure...4k res, not likley and its better for scaling to keep the same resolution but go with mini-Led...slimmer bezels on the little Mbp yes, but the 16" already had a little shrink in bezels already last year ..so little chances for that
 
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Frankly it's more like putting some computer back into the pro models.



There does seem to be a shift in thinking of late. Whether we truly get full ports and SD slots remains to be seen.

I think Jony's focus was heavily weighted on visual aesthetics given his background/education. Perhaps with Jeff Williams engineering background, there will be a greater balance of form and function.
Let's please not blame it all on Jony. His best designs were coordinated by Jobs who channeled his talent and kept his vanity in check. Jony did what he did with the 2016 MBP because of the absence of leadership. He would even call it out on interviews that Cook just doesn't care about design and engineering, and the products show as much!
 
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Terrible.
USB-c charging was easy as there is always a cable around. MagSafe means I have to always remember to bring a proprietary cable.

and no Touchbar as an option? Hard pass.
 
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Can't imagine the USB-A making a comeback, it's time has passed, would rather have more TB4 ports.
 
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No Touch bar might even lower the prices, MBP's had been starting at 1799-1999 for base models before, then came the overpriced Touch Bar models.
Hopefully also cheaper because lack of expensive Intel CPU's.
I wonder if they might do the same as the previous 13" and have both options—with or without Touch Bar. It would make sense, since anybody who does use the Touch Bar now will be justifiably upset if a tool that's become central to their process is removed. I may not be that user, but that's entirely beside the point. Whatever you think of the Touch Bar, it was a unique innovation, which really isn't replaceable by any existing technology (at least not built into the keyboard where it's ergonomically within reach).
 
My guess we’ll also see the return of the glowing logo. Someone in the other thread mentioned that Apple showed way more older models with glowing logos in their commercials recently.

Also tbh I still don’t get this «flat-edged» thing.. In my opinion the current design is already resembles iPhone 12 a lot. The one that is shown in the picture looks more like older MacBooks from 2006 era... or is it only me?
 
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Don't mind extra ports - as long as they keep 4 x USB-C and no messing with the headphone jack.
I just hope no usb a and HDMI, they're too big and don't look aesthetic. USB C x4 and MagSafe on both sides for versatility, and an SD card reader 🙏🏼
 
I am against removing TB and especially bringing Magsafe back. USB-c supposed to be the future for any tech device.
USB-C is the future, but I want my laptop to be useful today. It's pretty standard in every migration process to have a period during which both new and old standards are supported, so people use the new when possible and the old when needed. People point to Apple removing legacy features in the past but neglect that they always did it gradually.

I mean, look at TVs and monitors. Even if I bought all-new ones, it'd be hard to find them with USB-C.
 
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I was hoping to get rid of my magsafe bricks. They break too easy and noe i got usb c everywhere. In a pinch i can charge my macbook with my switch charger.

I still have a 2013 MBA with the T-style magsafe. There are no problems with the magsafe or the cord. The 3rd gen magsafe / 2nd gen T-style connector was solid.


You didnt had a razer blade laptop?
That design and the sides will be flat
Think about that today the bottom is flat, so they will keep the same design, but the lid will be flat too now
So don’t worry about that

The flat LCD cover will increase the thickness of the top of the lid. I imagine Apple might do this for two reasons: (1) to make room for a better camera, maybe even IR for FaceID, and hopefully for a shutter (like Dell and Lenovo), and (2) to increase rigidity of the cover so it does not flex.
 
I am wondering why can’t they just add physical F-keys back and leave the Touch Bar. I know people complain about it (just like people complain about everything), but it still has uses, at least I have enjoyed it for the short time I have had my M1 13”pro
I'd not mind the Touch Bar at all if there were physical volume buttons. There's no way I'm waking up the bar, pressing the volume button, pressing it again cause the first press probably didn't register, then dragging a slider. Should take less than a second and not involve looking down.

Escape key is whatever. I remapped the caps lock on my 2016 work MBP to escape.
 
No Touch bar might even lower the prices, MBP's had been starting at 1799-1999 for base models before, then came the overpriced Touch Bar models.
Hopefully also cheaper because lack of expensive Intel CPU's.
I wouldn't bet on prices being cheaper and a prime example of that is the MBA the price is still the same with the custom silicon and the devices are really not that expensive where they are priced now. Touch Bar or not the 16" MBP would have still been the same price as well as I cannot see them lowering the price of the entry level MBP without a Touch Bar to any where in the sub 1000 range.

Apple isn't HP and actually cares about it's margins. Versus HP where there are dozens of SKU's and they are a loss leader. In regards to Touch Bar I highly doubt they will be getting rid of it completely considering there is that patent for the keyboard that has customize keys on it floating around which would be something that would be in the same family as Touch Bar.

I think some models will have Touch Bar and some won't and also real talk here if price is a concern for someone then they probably should not own an Apple product then and should stay in their lane and go to a budget brand.
 
The wants for MBA 2021/22: M2, 14" (rounded display corners), SD Card slot, MagSafe (with charge-status light + cable management), 2 USBc, 1 USBa, headphone jack.

My 2015 MBA: i7, 13.3" (squared display corners), SD Card slot, MagSafe (with charge-status light + cable management), 2 USBa, 1 display port, headphone jack.

There's no good reason why we can't have the above ☝🏻

All MBPs should have M2X (M1X this year) and 4 USBc ports. They should get rid of the lower end MBP as it is too close in every way to the MBA. And get rid of the lower end MBP with the worse speakers too. Even now the remaining 13" Intel model has better audio setup than the 13" M1 MBP.
Please for the love of george no usb a. They are ugly ports and not needed as the only things using usb a are old tech and companies not wanting to pay more for the usb c licensing. SD cards make sense 100% and MagSafe would be welcome, just please have the option for charging on either the left or right side 😅
 
I'd not mind the Touch Bar at all if there were physical volume buttons. There's no way I'm waking up the bar, pressing the volume button, pressing it again cause the first press probably didn't register, then dragging a slider for something that used to take less than a second and didn't involve looking down.
With BTT you can make a sick Mac Track pad shortcut where rotating your fingers turns the volume or brightness up and down. No need to wake anything! I use control + rotate fingers for brightness and just rotate fingers for volume!
 
Apple introduced a Touch Bar in the 2016 Macs, providing a small OLED display where physical function keys used to be located. Apple had grand plans for the Touch Bar and envisioned it being an adaptable mini-display that offered customizable controls and different functions on a per-app basis, but the Touch Bar never seemed to catch on with consumers.

I put the blame for this squarely on the shoulders of developers. Apple's own apps make pretty good use of the Touch Bar, but third party apps tend to pretend it doesn't exist.

I still maintain that the Touch Bar was a great idea. However, like so many other things Apple tries to introduce, if developers are not on board with it, then it won't go anywhere.
 
If they do go back to MagSafe make the cable detachable from the brick. The cable is the point of failure and you should be just be able to just replace the cable.
Definitely one USB-A port. There are too many USB-A sticks out there.
I think two TB4 on one side, one USB-A and MagSafe on the other is what you are likely to get. I don’t think there would be Ethernet, DP or HDMI.

my daughter likes her touch bar - for emojis. I think the problem is apple put it out there and didn’t do anything with it. So it didn’t get adopted more widely by developers. So now it isn’t worth the expense anymore and might as well get rid of it.
 
With BTT you can make a sick Mac Track pad shortcut where rotating your fingers turns the volume or brightness up and down. No need to wake anything! I use control + rotate fingers for brightness and just rotate fingers for volume!
I'm not allowed to install BTT on my corp computer, but also, that's a bigger workaround for a simple function than I'd like. The biggest thing is being able to mute quickly and without thinking about it. I've been in too many meetings where some random Chrome tab starts playing sound and I have to fumble to find the mute.
 
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I just hope no usb a and HDMI, they're too big and don't look aesthetic. USB C x4 and MagSafe on both sides for versatility, and an SD card reader 🙏🏼
Whut? HDMI is exactly the port we need. Whenever I'd visit a client to present stuff I'd keep my fingers crossed that their screen/projector/whatnot would be compatible with my adapter, and not even half of them have Apple TV or another casting option.
 
With BTT you can make a sick Mac Track pad shortcut where rotating your fingers turns the volume or brightness up and down. No need to wake anything! I use control + rotate fingers for brightness and just rotate fingers for volume!
One more reason to make the TB optional. Those who love it can still tweak and enjoy it to their hearts' desire. For all the rest of us, we'll be happier without it.
 
Hopefully MagSafe includes USB-C, so you could use only one cable to connect external display and charge it at the same time.
 
I still have a 2013 MBA with the T-style magsafe. There are no problems with the magsafe or the cord. The 3rd gen magsafe / 2nd gen T-style connector was solid.




The flat LCD cover will increase the thickness of the top of the lid. I imagine Apple might do this for two reasons: (1) to make room for a better camera, maybe even IR for FaceID, and hopefully for a shutter (like Dell and Lenovo), and (2) to increase rigidity of the cover so it does not flex.
Exactly.. and thats why apple will do it since the camera is limited by the lid thickness
 
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