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I'm going back and forth between a 14 and 16 inch M1 Max config

They are both only a couple hundred dollars away from each other in price

I'd like the size and weight of the 14 inch, but not at the cost of performance/thermals

I wish I knew if both machines ran the same performance or if the 14 inch is constrained in some way

Anyone know?
 
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I'm going back and forth between a 14 and 16 inch M1 Max config

They are both only a couple hundred dollars away from each other in price

I'd like the size and weight of the 14 inch, but not at the cost of performance/thermals

I wish I knew if both machines ran the same performance or if the 14 inch is constrained in some way

Anyone know?
Just have to decide how often you'll travel with your laptop vs. it sitting at home.

For me it's going to be my main machine and rarely leave the home, so I decided to go 16".
The 16" has a bigger cooling surface so might run a tiny bit more performant, but it's probably nothing that noticeable. (similar to the 13" air vs 13" mbpro m1 models right now).

If I ever decide to pick up a travel machine I'd probably get a cheap $1000-$1200 13" air next year with A15 cores, or maybe even go to ipad pro + portable keyboard. Or maybe even grab one of those used/refurb. A coworker had one of these recently at an event and it was really nice. (just too expensive).
 
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Having just ordered the 2nd 14” option, the 10 cpu core, 16gpu core option with the 96w adapter and 1tb ssd im already thinking i ordered the wrong one.

I was planning on getting a Mac mini pro max, when it comes out. But it is probably going to cost half as much to upgrade the mbp vs a separate mini.

Ive just never used a laptop as my main machine. Not sure what to do.
I just ordered that one with the M1 MAX 24 cores instead of the M1 PRO 16 cores :)
 
Hmmm. Was considering an M1 MacBook Air but the low-end 14 inch is tempting. However, I don’t really need the GPU power at this point, and the 14 inch is still $550 more than the configuration I’d want on the M1. I’ll wait and see what the reviews say at this point. The Air is a very tempting machine for my needs as I already have the M1 Mini.
 
I'm going back and forth between a 14 and 16 inch M1 Max config

They are both only a couple hundred dollars away from each other in price

I'd like the size and weight of the 14 inch, but not at the cost of performance/thermals

I wish I knew if both machines ran the same performance or if the 14 inch is constrained in some way

Anyone know?
Nobody knows yet for sure but people have extensively benchmarked the air and pro with the same chip. The air does not have an extra fan. It is only after significant heavy load that the pro shows it’s fan benefit.

We are talking, lengthy video encodes / processes / exports.

The new machine has a new dual fan setup, but the chip does have more performance cores, so it is needed. Technically a bigger case can help with thermals but I honestly think with the new dual fan setup, the difference will be seconds not minutes on large projects.

I plan to get the 14” and an external display. Hopefully the next pro display they release that’s more affordable.
 
Kind of disappointed with the 8-core CPU starting at $2k.

All of these machines are more powerful than what I really need, so between M1 Air with 16 GB and 512 GB SSD and the 14" base, I'm looking at a $600 difference.

That $600 gets you twice the GPU cores, bigger/brighter/better ProMotion screen, faster SSD and RAM, more ports, improved mics/speakers, MagSafe, longer battery.

Performance wise not much different for me as I don't believe I really even use any software that would take advantage of the increase GPU cores.

Even with not much of a performance difference for my uses, I guess all those little things add up and probably worth $600 more...
 
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It’s good for them to not just discontinue 13” MacBook Pro like some rumours suggests, otherwise there will be a legit $1000 price gap between MacBook Air and MacBook Pro base model.

But how long will that be available for sale tho after the release?
 
Hmmm. Was considering an M1 MacBook Air but the low-end 14 inch is tempting. However, I don’t really need the GPU power at this point, and the 14 inch is still $550 more than the configuration I’d want on the M1. I’ll wait and see what the reviews say at this point. The Air is a very tempting machine for my needs as I already have the M1 Mini.

ha this is exactly where I'm at... and I could probably get away with 256 GB Air, so it's more like $800 difference for me.
 
Having just ordered the 2nd 14” option, the 10 cpu core, 16gpu core option with the 96w adapter and 1tb ssd im already thinking i ordered the wrong one.

I was planning on getting a Mac mini pro max, when it comes out. But it is probably going to cost half as much to upgrade the mbp vs a separate mini.

Ive just never used a laptop as my main machine. Not sure what to do.
At this point I think the prudent thing is to wait and see real-world specs on these new machines. I have the M1 Mini with 16GB RAM and 1TB SSD. It works great for my needs, mainly XCode with some Logic Pro and some light graphics work. I’m of the belief that today’s announced machines are vastly overpowered for a majority of users and that the M1 would work for most people. I actually wish they offered a lower end 16 inch machine with an M1 as I’d like the bigger screen but don’t need the power.
 
Even the least expensive 14" version is over-kill for 99.9% of ALL Apple consumers !

So, I wonder who Apple thinks the Target Market really is.

Just my two cents, but I think it would be nice if MR would ask those intending to buy which application OR applications they intend to use it for.
Um, the target market is Pros🤷🏻‍♀ You know, people who work with video, multi-track audio production, Xcode etc.. I surely can’t only be 0.1% of their Pro market. On a regular basis I am doing renders that take anywhere from 1hr to literally 2 days in some extreme cases. I’m VERY satisfied with the performance specs of these chips but could easily drink up waaay more performance.. It would be a complete game changer if I could edit, composite, and animate the sort of video work I do with instant real-time results instead of the render/export breaks that disturb my creative flow and I look forward to the day when computing power gets there. It would be akin to the HUGE game changer it was going from film photography to digital photo with its inherent real-time instant feedback on what I was shooting
 
Having just ordered the 2nd 14” option, the 10 cpu core, 16gpu core option with the 96w adapter and 1tb ssd im already thinking i ordered the wrong one.

I was planning on getting a Mac mini pro max, when it comes out. But it is probably going to cost half as much to upgrade the mbp vs a separate mini.

Ive just never used a laptop as my main machine. Not sure what to do.
I see your point. I think you'll adjust. Maybe buy a nice SSD external drive, make separate back-ups on occasion - and store it in basement or something. That makes good sense, and gives piece of mind for all the family photos & video, etc. if the laptop gets stolen, lost etc. if/when you start travelling more with it.
 
The version with a 10-core CPU and 16-core GPU is actually priced starting at $2,499.
Actually-actually: that pre-selected $2,499 config with the 10-core/16-core chip also includes a storage bump to 1TB over the base model. The lowest-priced 14-inch config with that chip is $2,299, if you start with the $1,999 base model and only bump up the M1 Pro to match the base 16-inch.

So what this means is that from there you can identically configure the 2 sizes, and the 16-inch should always be $200 more than the 14 (though there may be some high-end M1 Max upgrades that are only on the 16).
 
ha this is exactly where I'm at... and I could probably get away with 256 GB Air, so it's more like $800 difference for me.
The more I think about it the more its coming down to screen size with me. Is the 14 inch size a big enough difference from 13 inch to warrant the price? I‘ll have to see them side-by-side to really tell a difference. I really like the Air’s form factor and love the idea of a computer without a fan. As a professional developer (not games) I consider myself a “Pro” and don’t see the need for the high end machines at this point. But that extra screen real estate would be nice to have.
 
I have a mBP 2013 15" and cant quite make a decision. I have a military discount so base models are:

14": 1800
16": 2250

Given what I am coming from both are going to be just a tad bit better. 😆
 
Traded in my 2019 6-core i7 16" with 512GB storage and 64GB RAM for a 10-core M1 Pro 16" with 1TB storage and 32GB RAM. I got over $1,200 trade in value, and given how much I used the older machine over the two years I had it, I feel that was very fair. My ETA is 11/5.

RAM hasn't been my limiting factor in some time, and I have no use case for the M1 Max GPU cores and video processing oomf, so the additional fast SSD storage is way more appealing to me. Those read/write speeds are intense. These are very appealing systems - they tackled a whole laundry list of issues I had in one fell swoop.
 
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