This is what I wanted in July, had to settle for the 13". Will be tempted to upgrade.
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15.5-Inch MacBook Air Expected to Launch in Spring 2023
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What would be nice would be for Apple to place the USB ports opposite the MagSafe port.
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Which ports would you want, extra TB 4, or a variety? If the machine is a similar thickness to the 13.6" MBA I think that rules out USB A or HDMI. SD card slot should fit ok by the looks of it.
If it is indeed an Air it probably would only have Magsafe and 2 USB-C to avoid overlap with the MBP’s features.
No if it's anywhere close to Pro, I will continue to pass. The whole reason I'm hoping for a bigger screen Air is to keep the price down. If I could actually afford it, I'd just get the Pro if the Air is barely cheaper. If anything they cannabalize their new product then, or some people still buy nothing.
$150 or $200 more than the equivalent 13" Air.
Upgrading to the 16" MBP screen is $200. It might be a little less than that because it isn't an expensive Mini-LED screen.
200? 14 Inch to 16 inch for example is £500 difference. I expect air to be similar cost difference. Maybe 350-400 if we are lucky
In the US the 16" is $200USD more than the equivalent 14".
That £500 difference is because the base 14” MBP has a SOC with a lot fewer CPU and GPU cores. If you chose 14 and 16 with matching cores and matching RAM/SSD then the price difference is $200 (or whatever the equivalent is in pounds). The only difference in those configurations is the screen and case size. This gives a reasonable estimate of what the price difference would be between a 13” MBA and a 15” MBA all other things being equal.
Nobody, I do expect it to increase but there are still going to be plenty of M1 14” MBP’s around even when the M2 version is launched.
On top of this we really don’t know what sort of starting price this 15” MBA is going to start at it could be $1599 or even $1699 starting price for all we know, in which case my point would still apply.
One thing is for sure this is going to have the same effect as the iPhone 14 Plus has had on the iPhone line up which has encouraged many to simply go for the Pro as it’s a far better deal and apple will simply take advantage of that by pricing it extremely close to the 14” MBP.
To add to this…
I expect if the M2 Pros get a hike in early 2023 maybe starting at $2199 I fully expect the 15” Air to probably start at $1699, however if the pros stay the same pricing I think it’s a safe bet the 15” air will be $1499 starting roughly…
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I would 1000% buy one of these if reasonably priced. I’m no longer in love with the 14” MBP 🤣
I wonder what the weight will come in around. Since the current Air is about 2.7lbs, if this 15” is around the same weight or slightly heavier (.1-.2lbs) than the 14” MBP that would be awesome. It would pretty much be the ultimate portable notebook. The 16” MBP is way too heavy to be a true portable, and the 14” is pretty near the top end of that margin imho.
Agreed. They should really simplify the lineup. ‘Air’ made sense back in 2008 when notebooks were big and bulky. Now even PC notebooks are all relatively light and sleek because of SSDs.
If you’re going to use the ‘Air’ moniker, offer a very lightweight 11” or 12” replacement for the old 2015-17 rMB.
But Iphones cap at like $1100 with crazy trade in deals. They aren't $2500+ with you on the hook for the entire installment plan
This! I had been sorely tempted to buy one of those on eBay at times because they’re cheap now, and I loved how sleek and light they were. Then I remembered the brief period when I had one and how ****** it was lol. Battery life was horrendous and fans were like a jet engine 😖
That's really too expensive for what they're trying to do with this machine. Ideally they want the "Price of Admission" to be as close as possible to the $1,000 to $1,300 sweet spot that the other Airs and 13" Pro occupy, otherwise they're still losing out on a lot of more price sensitive customers who wouldn't consider a 16" but might be tempted by this. I'd imagine the number of potential customers tapers off precipitously the closer you get to that psychological $2,000 mark. I think it was Max Tech who did a poll and found only about 4% of their viewers (i.e. techy people) who would consider buying a computer at the price point of the 14/16" machines.
Base 256/8/8 configuration should be $1,399 max.
Mid 512/8/10 configuration $1,699.
Top 512/16/10 configuration $1,899.
That leaves the similarly equipped 512/16GB machine $100 off the 14" Pro, so might get some looking at that model, but crucially keeps the entry point within the most mass market reach it can be to maximise sales. Most people comfortable spending $1,899 probably won't mind spending $2,499 for the 16", so it's at the lower end this machine becomes viable in terms of sales.
Exactly as long as a 16" screen is locked behind high specs and pricing, I'm not buying it. And if they try to pull the bridge pricing BS, I'm not buying that either. It's not like a phone where you can get crazy trade in deads, and the price is 2.5 cheaper than a MBP16.
And that's with a mini-LED screen. Arguably going from a 13.6" to 15.5" non mini-LED should cost even less, but of course that's not how apple will operate.
Why not both?
Personally I’d like to see this lineup:
11.5–12.5” MB Air (replacing the old rMB)
13.6” and 15.5” get renamed MacBook
14.2 and 16.2” MacBook Pro
This with a 11” and 18” would be a killer lineup. The only thing is, while an 18” Pro would probably fill the majority of my needs for a desktop, the price tag would probably be at least double what I can get a decently spec’d iMac for.What they need to do is kill the 13" MBP and eventually the M1 MBA. Without them, and with this, the line basically mirrors what we had with iBooks/Powerbooks years ago, which is pretty easy to understand and gives appropriate steps up:
Pro:
14" MBP
16" MBP
Consumer:
13" MBA
15" MBA
I'd bet there's probably markets for an 18" MBP if that ever got added that could represent a heavy top-of-the-line model and an 11" MBA more in the style of the old 2016 MB for the very very light travel machine