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That tears it…I’m going back to my Blackberry
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Does ‘talking’ about something that you don’t think is a big deal personally, get referred to as ‘crying’ because you think it belittles the other persons point of view? Seems an odd choice of word in a discussion like this, especially as we are all customers from the same brand.

Well, I shouldn't have put it like that so I do apologize. It is a concern but I was mostly just talking to people who are blowing it out of proportion. You know the people who are supposed Apple fans but zone in only on one issue in an otherwise good device.
 
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Well, I shouldn't have put it like that so I do apologize. It is a concern but I was mostly just talking to people who are blowing it out of proportion. You know the people who are supposed Apple fans but zone in only on one issue in an otherwise good device.

It’s probably because durability is always a concern with a smartphone, especially as repairs are extortionate, even now, although Apple think it’s really cheap. It does concern me as next year i’ll have a new phone and I don’t want to be removing it from the case one day to be faced with a shattered back glass. This video has just highlighted a discussion point, that’s all.

Don’t assume everyone is an ‘Apple fan’ either. I have bought Apples products for 20 odd years but I’m a customer, not a fan. Fans are the types of people who are biased about whatever they are fans of and dare I say irrational to anything negative or critical. I’d like to think most customers qualify to voice concerns and criticisms based on experience and expectations.
 
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As are all of these tests. Point is the phone is not as durable as before. I suspect that titanium being a more rigid metal than stainless steel fails to disperse the shock effectively, breaking the display.
No, the point is clicks, basic spam videos. This is day one and we have no real data proving "...the phone is not as durable as before."
 
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Easily? Lol the dude’s hands are almost shaking cause he’s using so much force
Exactly. When the previous Bendgate nonsense came out I figured I should test my new iPhone. I am 6' x 195# and I put a lot of force on the iPhone without bending it. No doubt I could have bent it with much more force, but why? It tolerated far beyond any reasonable amount of force.

These UTubers simply seek clicks.
 
It’s probably because durability is always a concern with a smartphone, especially as repairs are extortionate, even now, although Apple think it’s really cheap. It does concern me as next year i’ll have a new phone and I don’t want to be removing it from the case one day to be faced with a shattered back glass. This video has just highlighted a discussion point, that’s all.

Don’t assume everyone is an ‘Apple fan’ either. I have bought Apples products for 20 odd years but I’m a customer, not a fan. Fans are the types of people who are biased about whatever they are fans of and dare I say irrational to anything negative or critical. I’d like to think most customers qualify to voice concerns and criticisms based on experience and expectations.
Like I said I understand the concern, I will admit I am a little bummed out that it isn't quite as durable as previous phones. However, I always had cases on my iPhone, so this isn’t a huge deal for me. I also have Apple Care as another source of protection. This is my personal opinion of course. Folks who go case less should keep the durability aspect in mind if they choose to purchase this phone.

I know this doesn't satisfy everyone and they want lightweight, indestructible, and easily repairable phones.
 
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Unless you're planning to try snap the phone in half with your hands, I think you'll be okay with a Pro Max. That channel does torture tests far beyond what a reasonable person would ever put their phone through.
 
so glad i got the regular pro model so i dont have to worry about someone breaking the back glass by applying pressure at a very specific point with all their force that no one ever does in real life
Right! LOL
 
so glad i got the regular pro model so i dont have to worry about someone breaking the back glass by applying pressure at a very specific point with all their force that no one ever does in real life

Thank goodness you made the right choice that happens to fit a YouTube video showing a highly arbitrary experiment.

 
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Like I said I understand the concern, I will admit I am a little bummed out that it isn't quite as durable as previous phones. However, I always had cases on my iPhone, so this isn’t a huge deal for me. I also have Apple Care as another source of protection. This is my personal opinion of course. Folks who go case less should keep the durability aspect in mind if they choose to purchase this phone.

I know this doesn't satisfy everyone and they want lightweight, indestructible, and easily repairable phones.
I use a case too, I don’t bother with AppleCare though, they have enough of my money and I’m insured anyway. Going caseless is always a risk but even more so now if the glass is indeed as brittle as demonstrated. I don’t intend to find out though.
 
Hard to assign credibility to anyone who doesn't understand the difference between tensile, torsional and bending stress.

Or maybe he just failed high school physics.

Perhaps he can stick it in a vice and comment on compressive strength, or try to tear it with his hands, and rate shear strength as well.
 
I watch his videos each year and that is the first time I’ve seen the back glass break from flexing the iPhone. I know this thread is rife with excuses and defence of Apple but it doesn’t get away from the fact the phone is more susceptible to damage. If you can break it from bending pressure with your hands, imagine what bodyweight will do if you leave your phone in your back pocket and I’m sure we’ve all done that once or twice.

Handy this year that Apple have made the back glass easier and cheaper to replace and it just so happens it breaks slightly easier.
I’ve cancelled my order for the iPhone 15 pro max for this reason and also because it scratched so easily, I always have a case on mine but there’s always debris that gets inside and moves about so I’m gonna wait till the 16 and take it from there, my 13 pro still has 90% battery health so should be fine for another year
 
I’ve cancelled my order for the iPhone 15 pro max for this reason and also because it scratched so easily, I always have a case on mine but there’s always debris that gets inside and moves about so I’m gonna wait till the 16 and take it from there, my 13 pro still has 90% battery health so should be fine for another year

You realize that video is a sample size of ONE, right? There are so many variables that could have contributed to what JerryRig experienced.
 
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You realize that video is a sample size of ONE, right? There are so many variables that could have contributed to what JerryRig experienced.
Ok I finally got to see and feel the new phones. Actually I was in NYC yesterday but they had a line up at the 24hr site at Central Park - they actually had a ropped off line with people waiting. Anyway back in Toronto today and after feeling up about 40 phones this is what I noticed.



The oil marks is a thing but not as bad as reported


The back glass feels solid enough.


I actually can feel that edge on the back but no big deal.



I think the breakages are real but due to a tolerance issue with the back glass. They may have already corrected it but the first batch will be out there and will have to be repaired or replaced.


I’m sure it will scratch and crack the back glass but is not as sensational as the videos make it out to be. But it is real for some of the usual reasons. Knowing Apple, they would just let a bad batch go through than issuing a recall and deal with the small irate customers on a one-to-one basis…
 
Honestly, before 'influencers', as consumers, what did we do, didn't we just purchase items and use them ourselves? And, if it broke or didn't work, we'd let the manufacture know about it.

Oh how times have changed...
 
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No, the point is clicks, basic spam videos. This is day one and we have no real data proving "...the phone is not as durable as before."
Some of y’all are just delusional. The bugger who uploaded it is an Apple loving fanboy, if you go through his channel. I can’t stand his channel because he’s so overtly positive about Apple in general. The phone ISN’T as durable as before, it’s plain to see. There is no data needed. I’ve yet to see *any* phone’s camera housing come off entirely. There’s a few more videos with similar results now. If you knew anything about metals, Titanium being a rigid metal, just doesn’t disperse shock as well as stainless steel, transferring all the shock to the glass directly. It’s no rocket science, that would shatter the glass.

In real life, assuming you go outside, nobody drops their phone at a specific angle or scientifically. Accidents happen. This video is meant to simulate that.

Of course, feel free to disagree. Time will tell whether or not this generation of iPhones is more fragile.
 
Some of y’all are just delusional. The bugger who uploaded it is an Apple loving fanboy, if you go through his channel. I can’t stand his channel because he’s so overtly positive about Apple in general. The phone ISN’T as durable as before, it’s plain to see. There is no data needed. I’ve yet to see *any* phone’s camera housing come off entirely. There’s a few more videos with similar results now. If you knew anything about metals, Titanium being a rigid metal, just doesn’t disperse shock as well as stainless steel, transferring all the shock to the glass directly. It’s no rocket science, that would shatter the glass.

In real life, assuming you go outside, nobody drops their phone at a specific angle or scientifically. Accidents happen. This video is meant to simulate that.

Of course, feel free to disagree. Time will tell whether or not this generation of iPhones is more fragile.

If you are talking about JerryRig he is not an Apple fanboy. He has been critical of Apple for a while now. I think he even stated in a previous video that his personal phone is a Android.
 
If you are talking about JerryRig he is not an Apple fanboy. He has been critical of Apple for a while now. I think he even stated in a previous video that his personal phone is an Android.
I’m talking about Apple track or whatever his name is. Clearly, you haven’t read any of my previous posts before you decided to type out your reply. I recommend you do so. It’s not just Jerryrig who’s found the inferior quality of the 15 pro series. Of course, use your best judgement. Time will tell if there’s any issues.
 
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I’ve cancelled my order for the iPhone 15 pro max for this reason and also because it scratched so easily, I always have a case on mine but there’s always debris that gets inside and moves about so I’m gonna wait till the 16 and take it from there, my 13 pro still has 90% battery health so should be fine for another year

I have a 13 Pro Max and to be honest, upgrading next year will give a much more noticeable upgrade I think. The 13 Pro is still a very good iPhone in 2023.
 
Honestly, before 'influencers', as consumers, what did we do, didn't we just purchase items and use them ourselves? And, if it broke or didn't work, we'd let the manufacture know about it.

Oh how times have changed...

Influencers add more power to the consumer though, especially when highlighting manufacturing/design flaws. How many car manufacturers for instance would ignore expensive issues unless publications criticised them publicly? It’s the same in any industry. I doubt Apple would have stiffened the iPhone 6S without an influencer highlighting the fact the previous phone could be bent with a medium amount of force.
 
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