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Influencers add more power to the consumer though, especially when highlighting manufacturing/design flaws. How many car manufacturers for instance would ignore expensive issues unless publications criticised them publicly? It’s the same in any industry. I doubt Apple would have stiffened the iPhone 6S without an influencer highlighting the fact the previous phone could be bent with a medium amount of force.
Ya I don’t get all the hate for people letting us know what our phones can or can’t withstand. A lot of people choosing to go caseless as new phone is light and titanium, but pretty clear the 14 Pro was more durable.
 
Well there is another video on a guy trying to bend the phone, back glass doesnt break.

Here’s another with a bend test at the end of the video and the rear glass doesn’t break.
yeah its pretty much subjective and luck base , of cos everything breaks if you intentionally does it, or should i say u didnt bend it the right way lol . Individual strength plays a big part as well. As long as upon purchase inspect the phone and everything is gucci Just enjoy the phone whoever had decide to upgrade. Life is too short for these sort of debates and argument.
 
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Influencers add more power to the consumer though, especially when highlighting manufacturing/design flaws. How many car manufacturers for instance would ignore expensive issues unless publications criticised them publicly? It’s the same in any industry. I doubt Apple would have stiffened the iPhone 6S without an influencer highlighting the fact the previous phone could be bent with a medium amount of force.
Exactly, defending Apple on the quality of iPhone built quality is a job for their lawyers.

BTW check out some JerryRig videos on foldables. I get that with iPhones it seems less relevant to bend it, but what about these fragile thin phones with moving parts. A lot of structural improvements have been made there.

Also, there will be a teardown video after the durability test, he should be able to find a reason for the fail.
 
Ya I don’t get all the hate for people letting us know what our phones can or can’t withstand. A lot of people choosing to go caseless as new phone is light and titanium, but pretty clear the 14 Pro was more durable.

Absolutely. It is also thanks to these sorts of videos that someone else tests the durability rather than us. It’s doing us a favour and unpaid fans of a particular brand should see it as constructive rather than questioning their allegiance.
 
least scientific test ever
Oh I dunno, everyone knows Arstrellian concrete is harder.

Seriously though, the only thing in any of these attention-seeking "influencer" party tricks that might give me any call for concern is that void behind the large surface area that is the back of the 15 PM...which is easily enough taken care of by:

  • Not pushing it in with yer thumbs
  • Getting a half-decent case
 
Oh I dunno, everyone knows Arstrellian concrete is harder.

Seriously though, the only thing in any of these attention-seeking "influencer" party tricks that might give me any call for concern is that void behind the large surface area that is the back of the 15 PM...which is easily enough taken care of by:

  • Not pushing it in with yer thumbs
  • Getting a half-decent case
Actually its more like the new ti frame due to the tensile strength it does not flex hence the pressure is transferred to the weakest point of the device which is the glass.
 
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I have a 13 Pro Max and to be honest, upgrading next year will give a much more noticeable upgrade I think. The 13 Pro is still a very good iPhone in 2023.
Next year phones are rumoured to get bigger, that's a big downer imo. Currently using iPhone 14 Pro and definitely wouldn't want to upgrade to anything bigger.
 
Actually its more like the new ti frame due to the tensile strength it does not flex hence the pressure is transferred to the weakest point of the device which is the glass.
Actually it's the fineness of the glass in relation to its surface area and absence of support beneath it.
 
Actually it's the fineness of the glass in relation to its surface area and absence of support beneath it.
And that , they sort of make it modular to replace the back glass lol( saw the dissembled video there is like a round cycle which allow the wireless charging to go through .but then i am not expert just a normal consumer. Not say its a bad phone but whoever decide to upgrade, better slap a case on it day 1
 
And that , they sort of make it modular to replace the back glass lol( saw the dissembled video there is like a round cycle which allow the wireless charging to go through .but then i am not expect just a normal consumer. Not say its a bad phone but whoever decide to upgrade, better slap a case on it day 1
Samsung used to have a really skinny removable plastic back on the Galaxy S2 supported by the also-removable battery it covered.

You could buy a spare battery - and even a small stand-alone charger - and simply hot-swap them as required and never need to put your phone on charge.

"Progress" lol.
 
Samsung used to have a really skinny removable plastic back on the Galaxy S2 supported by the also-removable battery it covered.

You could buy a spare battery - and even a small stand-alone charger - and simply hot-swap them as required and never need to put your phone on charge.

"Progress" lol.
Tbh with how major tech companies is , be it android or ios, Its the same thing. Device are made less lasting , feature wise as well .be it software or hardware, End of the day the only “progress” they wanted is consumer to upgrade more often. Gone are the days of nokia brick.
 
Tbh with how major tech companies is , be it android or ios, Its the same thing. Device are made less lasting , feature wise as well .be it software or hardware. End of the day the only “progress” they wanted is consumer to upgrade more often. Gone are the days of nokia brick.
Like I said, "progress". For capitalism.

Removable batteries and "Nokia brick". Other non-mutually inclusive concepts are available...
 
JerryRigsEverything has posted a video that’s worth a watch if you are trying to decide between the Pro and Pro Max. It seems that the Pro Max back glass breaks pretty easily if the phone is flexed.

He also confirms that the PVD coatings are easily scratched.


So that’s made my mind up: a natural 15 Pro for me.

Ok this phone is
Easily broken
Easily overheat, titanium is 1/15 cooling of aluminium, check it the fact
Easily scratch

While this phone has no practical update

Apple really earns all they can
 
im not sure if this was posted, but it definitely seem to not be that easy to break the back glass.

 
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Influencers add more power to the consumer though, especially when highlighting manufacturing/design flaws. How many car manufacturers for instance would ignore expensive issues unless publications criticised them publicly? It’s the same in any industry. I doubt Apple would have stiffened the iPhone 6S without an influencer highlighting the fact the previous phone could be bent with a medium amount of force.
+1. I don't refer to youtubers when making a purchase though. They all just spout out the same nonsense generally & the real world usage differs drastically. However, they do play a crucial role when exposing the flaws and inferiority of products, which just adds power to the consumer & accountability on the part of the company, since everything is out in the open.
 
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Everything Apple pro drop test video was better than Jerry Rigs if you ask me. While the back glass did break on the second drop, the front glass, and cameras on the 15 pro max lasted the entire time. The normal 15 pro didn’t make it the entire test. It just goes to show that there are variables out there. Additionally, there is a non U.S tech YouTuber who did the same bend test as JerryRig and the 15 pro max glass didn't break.

I was pleasantly surprised and content with the durability once I saw this video. Again, it will be overshadowed by Jerryrigs video from the people looking to hate on Apple or the iPhone 15 pro of course.

Another thing to keep in mind is that Apple only made the claims about the strongest glass for the front not the back.

I am actually content after watching everything Apple pros video. Though again, it will fall on blind eyes and deaf ears due to the noise from Jerry's video.

 
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Influencers add more power to the consumer though, especially when highlighting manufacturing/design flaws. How many car manufacturers for instance would ignore expensive issues unless publications criticised them publicly? It’s the same in any industry. I doubt Apple would have stiffened the iPhone 6S without an influencer highlighting the fact the previous phone could be bent with a medium amount of force.
...touche'.
 
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About a month ago I went on a cruise. Prior to I went on YouTube to get information on the ship I would be on. All the video thumbnails were clickbait garbage. A lot of the videos themselves were garbage too. How many of these are really about informing consumers vs getting views? Especially for those who are partially (or fully) making a living off their YouTube channel.
 
Well there is another video on a guy trying to bend the phone, back glass doesnt break.

yeah its pretty much subjective and luck base , of cos everything breaks if you intentionally does it, or should i say u didnt bend it the right way lol . Individual strength plays a big part as well. As long as upon purchase inspect the phone and everything is gucci Just enjoy the phone whoever had decide to upgrade. Life is too short for these sort of debates and argument.

Out of the three bend test videos out there, Jerry Rig's is the only one to crack. Just shows it's variables out there and that JerryRig's experience is not reflective of ALL the pro maxes out there. For all we know, his could have been a slightly defective one or something.
 
In the follow-up teardown video there was no mention as to why the glass may have broken. But as others have pointed out the aluminium mid frame is completely new design and has a big hole in it. Maybe that was all the flex needed to break the glass. Previous designs featured no such frame or hole as far as I know.

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A lot of users put their phones in their back pocket which is why the bend test exists. I doubt this hole would cause many issues though.
 
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I think it's all ultimately a case of YMMV.

I haven't put my wallet, much less my phone or anything else in my back pocket for decades. Not a judgement on those who do, but this won't happen to me, so not a cause for concern. If you do put the phone in your back pocket, well, I guess you need to be mindful of breakage - but I'd have been mindful of that anyway, because it's metal sandwiched between glass layers.

The interesting thing here, and others have pointed this out is that repairs are getting cheaper. And I'm wondering if that's because Apple is starting to see the regulatory writing on the wall regarding right-to-repair. If the EU can force Apple to adopt USB-C, then they or other authorities can come along and say "you can't sell the phone here unless you make it straightforward to repair". There's already a law on the books in the EU requiring easily replaceable batteries that would affect phones in a little over 3 years from now.

And if that's the case, then I think you may start to see more design trade-offs internally. Style / Durability / Modularity - pick two.
 
In the follow-up teardown video there was no mention as to why the glass may have broken. But as others have pointed out the aluminium mid frame is completely new design and has a big hole in it. Maybe that was all the flex needed to break the glass. Previous designs featured no such frame or hole as far as I know.

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A lot of users put their phones in their back pocket which is why the bend test exists. I doubt this hole would cause many issues though.

After watching Zach’s follow-up tear down video, I’m thinking this too. The aluminum frame pushed against the glass, while he’s pressing 2 thumbs strongly into the hole. It wasn’t a bend test, it was a poke.
 
Also for anyone who isn't wearing Tim Apple glasses, the Pro Max clearly has a design flaw in that there is a void behind the glass at a specific area.
We're not wearing "Tim Apple" glasses, we're just not gullible enough to watch a YouTube video that says "glass breaks you apply sharp pressure." Stop calling everyone who points this out a "rabid fanboy".

That's common sense, it's why they make keychains like that that can break car windshields.
 
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