16-inch MacBook Pro launch imminent

[raqball]

I read somewhere, can't remember where, that the rumor is the new KB will have about the same travel as the current... I don't mind the shallow KB so hopefully the new design is reliable. Thinner bezels would be welcomed as well....

Will be interesting to see the reviews on it.. One downside is it will ship with the disaster known as Catalina...

 

[DanMan619]

On a serious note, when this machine goes live and for sale, who is going to match the switch from their current MBP to the 16? Im in two minds

I'll almost certainly make the switch, but probably not immediately. My Late 2013 is ok for regular use like web surfing and stuff but i want to do more video editing and photoshop and it's showing it's age when it comes to that and i'm just ready for something new (and the increased performance and power efficiency that will come with making that 6 year leap on the internals). I'll wait for reviews first to make sure there's not any glaring issues like the overheating/throttling issue. Egregious things like that aside, i'll probably pick one up pretty quick. Might maybe wait for the 16" MBPs to hit Apple Refurb to save a couple bucks if i feel patient.

 

[simplysly]

I'll almost certainly make the switch, but probably not immediately. My Late 2013 is ok for regular use like web surfing and stuff but i want to do more video editing and photoshop and it's showing it's age when it comes to that and i'm just ready for something new (and the increased performance and power efficiency that will come with making that 6 year leap on the internals). I'll wait for reviews first to make sure there's not any glaring issues like the overheating/throttling issue. Egregious things like that aside, i'll probably pick one up pretty quick. Might maybe wait for the 16" MBPs to hit Apple Refurb to save a couple bucks if i feel patient.

I really really hope that the keyboard issue is somewhat ironed out. I have this constant sense of anxiety while typing on my 2019 15. Its really quite sad as its such a beautiful and powerful machine. However, being worried to use it to its full potential (incl. keyboard) is so disappointing. I miss the days of apple just working

 

[Hazmat401]

So what do you guys think about the base model GPU?

If apple is still offering the 555/560x..... its a bad bad bad buy for me as far as that goes.

the base model should have the Vega 16 and the high end should have the Vega 20... that’s assuming lower end Navi cards didn’t get trickled into the lineup

I just my MBP today from the Apple store. I bought a refurb 2019 Vega 20 model for $2679... if the base model 16 is not faster than what I have now... I will keep what I have

the new screen is very tempting though

 

[Lobwedgephil]

If the leaked pricing is correct, I assume it is going to be very similar to what you can buy today.

 

[Dovahkiing]

On a serious note, when this machine goes live and for sale, who is going to match the switch from their current MBP to the 16? Im in two minds

I’m contingent on a few things (price/specs and new keyboard basically), but if it meets my expectations I’m gonna pull the trigger. I don’t actually care so much about the bigger screen - after all it’s not really that much bigger.

ideally it’ll be a bit thicker with better thermals, but I’m not holding my breath.
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An SSD that isn’t soldered to the motherboard would be nice too, but again, I have low expectations for that

 

[The Mercurian]

On a serious note, when this machine goes live and for sale, who is going to match the switch from their current MBP to the 16? Im in two minds

Totally depends on pricing for an 8 core 32GB 1TB option - if its crazy money, I'll look for a 15" model with those specs instead, or maybe even a windoze laptop with similar specs.

 

[honcho]

At time of day (and in which timezone) are Apple announcement usually made? Just curious.

 

[MrGunnyPT]

On a serious note, when this machine goes live and for sale, who is going to match the switch from their current MBP to the 16? Im in two minds

After looking at benchmarks and reviews I most likely will be pulling the trigger. I definitely gotta jump from the 13" because this thing simply cannot handle my tasks anymore in terms of virtualisation
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At time of day (and in which timezone) are Apple announcement usually made? Just curious.

Weren't AirPods Pro 15:00 or 18:00 GMT?
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So what do you guys think about the base model GPU?

If apple is still offering the 555/560x..... its a bad bad bad buy for me as far as that goes.

the base model should have the Vega 16 and the high end should have the Vega 20... that’s assuming lower end Navi cards didn’t get trickled into the lineup

I just my MBP today from the Apple store. I bought a refurb 2019 Vega 20 model for $2679... if the base model 16 is not faster than what I have now... I will keep what I have

the new screen is very tempting though

I also need a faster GPU. There's navi code on Mac OS Beta so here's hoping... Either Vega 20 or Navi 14 it's fine for me.

 

[workerbee]

Either Vega 20 or Navi 14 it's fine for me.

As long as it doesn't have the «fans running at max speed almost all the time» feature.

 

[Falhófnir]

On a serious note, when this machine goes live and for sale, who is going to match the switch from their current MBP to the 16? Im in two minds

I'm probably going to wait for WWDC and see what, if anything happens with the rumours of ARM Macs. But then I'd be happy to switch quite soon after they kick off that transition depending on the specifics of it all. If they make it clear it's the future of the platform and go at the switch quite aggressively I'd rather be on the ARM side of the divide with my next machine. Will also give others time to try out the 16" and for any issues it might have to come to light.

 

[ascender]

I'm just interested to see what it is. I don't need a powerful laptop but I really like the large screen on the current 15, so you never know!

 

[Sterkenburg]

What most people seemed to expect: a separate high-end workstation-class MacBook ProPro/ReallyPro with Xeon CPU, 64GB RAM, XDR display, visibly increased size and thickness, and so on. Targeting the professional audience, insane/exclusive starting price.
What could happen according to the latest news: an incremental improvement to the 15" MBP that corrects its main shortcomings (keyboard), and throws in some nice additional stuff (higher-res screen, speakers, hopefully Navi GPU). Same target audience as the current model.

We'll know for sure very soon, but no one who is aware of Apple's laptop design philosophy should really be surprised if the latter turns out to be the case.

On a serious note, when this machine goes live and for sale, who is going to match the switch from their current MBP to the 16? Im in two minds

Eventually, I'm going to switch. I'm eager to leave the butterfly keyboard era behind. But not immediately, as I've been burned too badly from being an early adopter of the last redesign. I have the high-end 2018 15", so from a hardware standpoint I can afford to wait another year to see how this first 16" is received, and whether it does actually iron out all the big and small issues that plagued the last generation.

 

[Ma2k5]

I'm probably going to wait for WWDC and see what, if anything happens with the rumours of ARM Macs. But then I'd be happy to switch quite soon after they kick off that transition depending on the specifics of it all. If they make it clear it's the future of the platform and go at the switch quite aggressively I'd rather be on the ARM side of the divide with my next machine. Will also give others time to try out the 16" and for any issues it might have to come to light.

I think ARM isn't worth getting excited for - the move to ARM will not result in much (if any) improvements to people's daily use (even in terms of battery life) with the potential of a lot of headache. I've been hearing ARM rumors from Kuo and the like now for at least a good 6-8 years and to be honest, maybe they will maybe they won't - but it will be a long time before ARM laptops are better than non-ARM laptops in my opinion when considering the technical pro's and con's of the move.

 

[leman]

What most people seemed to expect: a separate high-end workstation-class MacBook ProPro/ReallyPro with Xeon CPU, 64GB RAM, XDR display, visibly increased size and thickness, and so on. Targeting the professional audience, insane/exclusive starting price.

I am very surprised that anyone would expect that.These expectations are just some people randomly projecting that "16 inch" means something like a "17" HP workstation monster". It was rather clear — from the early days when these rumours have started to circulate — that it is going to be a 15" MacBook with thinner bezels. Of course, we might still get something unexpected...

 

[Ma2k5]

I am very surprised that anyone would expect that.These expectations are just some people randomly projecting that "16 inch" means something like a "17" HP workstation monster". It was rather clear — from the early days when these rumours have started to circulate — that it is going to be a 15" MacBook with thinner bezels. Of course, we might still get something unexpected...

I agree, this is a replacement of the 15", not an alternative, so we shouldn't expect anything other than an evolution rather than a completely new product.

 

[MrGunnyPT]

As long as it doesn't have the «fans running at max speed almost all the time» feature.

Sigh
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What most people seemed to expect: a separate high-end workstation-class MacBook ProPro/ReallyPro with Xeon CPU, 64GB RAM, XDR display, visibly increased size and thickness, and so on. Targeting the professional audience, insane/exclusive starting price.
What could happen according to the latest news: an incremental improvement to the 15" MBP that corrects its main shortcomings (keyboard), and throws in some nice additional stuff (higher-res screen, speakers, hopefully Navi GPU). Same target audience as the current model.

We'll know for sure very soon, but no one who is aware of Apple's laptop design philosophy should really be surprised if the latter turns out to be the case.


Eventually, I'm going to switch. I'm eager to leave the butterfly keyboard era behind. But not immediately, as I've been burned too badly from being an early adopter of the last redesign. I have the high-end 2018 15", so from a hardware standpoint I can afford to wait another year to see how this first 16" is received, and whether it does actually iron out all the big and small issues that plagued the last generation.

I'm just expecting an upgrade to the 15" with Navi that's all

 

[Dovahkiing]

At time of day (and in which timezone) are Apple announcement usually made? Just curious.

I believe the press event is in NYC - maybe it’ll be on East Coast time? Apple usually seems to do 10AM in whatever timezone the event is held if I recall correctly

 

[honcho]

I believe the press event is in NYC - maybe it’ll be on East Coast time? Apple usually seems to do 10AM in whatever timezone the event is held if I recall correctly

Thanks for the heads-up. That’ll be 3pm my time

 

[AustinIllini]

I want to make the switch but damn it's so expensive. If it's the same as the 15" I can live

 

[Macalway]

4%

Yawn........

 

[dan9700]

It’s out!!!!!

 

[tachillon]

 

[Stephen.R]

Doesn't appear on the main MBP page but details are in https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2019...nch-macbook-pro-the-worlds-best-pro-notebook/

 

[Macalway]

9th gen, 4%

A nice update though.

Improved thermals would be welcome, which they say is the case. But they had better be, in order to push those old 9th gen chips 80% faster.