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I think Tuesday is our last hope for an event announcement.

And I highly, highly doubt the touchbar is going away. It was introduced this year into the 13" MBP. Personally, I love the touchbar. I think it has its benefits. I know that is not a popular opinion.

I would slightly prefer no touchbar, but the only reason it bothers me is that it’s a lot of extra engineering for something that doesn't make any difference to me. I hope they either find a way to improve its utility or drop it.
 
Wow, I never tried using Quick Look on the device, it actually does show the icon. Funny that I didn't know that was possible until today

I used to love going into the devices on the network (or ⇧⌘K) and quick look through all the devices and see what devices were on the network.
 
looks like the 16 inch one doesn't have a Touch Bar.
Oh wow....that would be a hilarious "about face" from Apple. If true, I'd have to think Jony was responsible for both the Touch Bar and crap butterfly keyboard.

I could also see them shrinking the Touch Bar enough to add a physical ESC key, which is the way it should have always been if they insisted on having a TB.

No reason why adding TB had to remove the ESC key.
 
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Interesting it's not using the rounded corner display we were all expecting... maybe it really is a stopgap model between the flaky current gen and the full redesign a bit further down the line (ARM?) This does suggest it will be a bit bigger than the current 15" unit, though.

Edit: unless the image is just of a current 15" as a placeholder?

Yeah maybe.
Yet I'm certainly disappointed from that picture, starting loosing interesting to MacBook Pro overall..
 
Feature/ Expect vs. want, ranked:

Keyboard: Make it usable (Ie travel, reliable) x2

Touchbar/escape: put escape back; drop touchbar or make it optional

Thermals: Take full advantage of its cpus with appropriate heat dissipation x2

larger screen: yes; do what you think is best for bezels

Magsafe, usba, hdmi, removable ssd, face unlock: sure why not; stop soldering ssd
 
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Xeon seems like such overkill.

Not if you are trying to create a state of the art true mobile workstation. Apple has iphones, ipads, ipad pro's Macbook air's, Macbooks and Macbook pro's with i9 processors, All mobile devices. What Apple does not have is a true mobile workstation with ECC memory. I remember back when people said, they will never make a iMac with Xeon processors, it will never happen and it did. Don't under estimate apple engineers and product markets. They may even have a dual xeon macbook pro processors.

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Why not? you do know that the Xeon processors can work in parallel when processing. They have for over 20 years. When Apple builds a great Mac Pro tower starting at $6000 you don't think that they would not have any problem building a new mac pro's lets say starting at $3500? Apple can build pretty much anything they want. Yep
 
Why not? you do know that the Xeon processors can work in parallel when processing. They have for over 20 years. When Apple builds a great Mac Pro tower starting at $6000 you don't think that they would not have any problem building a new mac pro's lets say starting at $3500? Apple can build pretty much anything they want. Yep

Neither the iMac Pro nor the Mac Pro is dual-CPU. There also is no such thing as a mobile Xeon that supports multiple sockets.
 
Why not? you do know that the Xeon processors can work in parallel when processing. They have for over 20 years. When Apple builds a great Mac Pro tower starting at $6000 you don't think that they would not have any problem building a new mac pro's lets say starting at $3500? Apple can build pretty much anything they want. Yep
If Apple is going to use Intel Xeon CPUs it will be the E-2276M and/or the E-2286M. These make sense...I applaud your enthusiasm, if not your delusions. Dual Xeons? Please stick to remotely plausible reality.
 
I really hope they get rid of the gimmicky, useless, no-one-asked-for touchbar. If there’s no touchbar, I might consider buying.
 
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Not if you are trying to create a state of the art true mobile workstation. Apple has iphones, ipads, ipad pro's Macbook air's, Macbooks and Macbook pro's with i9 processors, All mobile devices. What Apple does not have is a true mobile workstation with ECC memory. I remember back when people said, they will never make a iMac with Xeon processors, it will never happen and it did. Don't under estimate apple engineers and product markets. They may even have a dual xeon macbook pro processors.

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What extra benefit would a Xeon processor bring vs the i7 / i9 in the current 15.6” MPB?
 
Hopefully it looks like it will not have rounded corners on the screen area. This unnecessary nonsense is bad enough on the iPad Pro.
 
My main issue with the TouchBar models is, more than the escape key, the brightness and volume up/down and the mute key. Those five keys are often used by me without even looking at the keyboard and that's something I cannot do with a Touch Bar, where you touch it and you don't know what are you doing unless you look down at it.

Anyone knows a way to replace those keys with a keyboard shortcut?
 
They may even have a dual xeon macbook pro processors.

I think you are forgetting that time when Apple released a MacBook Pro with the i9 CPU and it thermal throttled like crazy and if you had paid extra for the i9 upgrade, you were totally limited by thermal to even use the i9 at its max capacity/performance.

If Apple can't even prevent a single i9 from thermally throttling and limiting performance, what makes you think that Apple will release a laptop with dual Xeons which will thermal throttle even more under the current enclosure design?
 
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That’s a really old wallpaper from the Leopard days...I don’t think this is it. Obvious fake.

Except....
All of those images (if you look in that folder on a Mac, there’s one for pretty much every Mac ever released) have that same wallpaper. 😁 So... could be a fake... or maybe not.
 
And I highly, highly doubt the touchbar is going away. It was introduced this year into the 13" MBP. Personally, I love the touchbar. I think it has its benefits. I know that is not a popular opinion.
I don't care about the touchbar IF they put a real physical Escape key bak on the left end of that row. I use Escape hundreds of times (at least) in Vim.

Switching to a keyboard with a mere picture of an escape key in that spot, on capacitive glass (where you can't feel it press, you can't feel if you're striking the center of the key or off to one side, you can't rest your finger on it without pressing) is a no-go.
 
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What extra benefit would a Xeon processor bring vs the i7 / i9 in the current 15.6” MPB?
ECC is the benefit. Science and Engineering pro's require this. I imagine it also has some uses for people dealing with massive files (think: Hollywood) who don't want mysterious corruption or crashes.

In a sane world every chip would offer this (and for decades now), but Intel has to charge higher prices...

IBM (and a few others) have crazy cool RAS features that I would gladly pay for if only they were offered to me...
 
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