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Icons possibly depicting the widely rumored 16-inch MacBook Pro have been uncovered by French blog MacGeneration in the first two betas of macOS Catalina version 10.15.1, which has been in testing since last week.

The icon looks similar to the 15-inch MacBook Pro asset that is included in previous versions of macOS, but with slightly thinner bezels. The notebook is depicted in both Silver and Space Gray, with "16" in both filenames presumably referring to the larger 16-inch display expected for the rumored machine.

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MacRumors can confirm the files exist in the second beta of macOS Catalina 10.15.1:

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Earlier this year, noted analyst Ming-Chi Kuo said Apple is readying a 16-inch MacBook Pro with an all-new design, including the return of a more reliable scissor mechanism keyboard, for release by the end of 2019. However, it is unclear if the notebook is still planned for this year or has been pushed back to 2020.

The 16-inch MacBook Pro is rumored to feature narrower bezels, as the icons above suggest, perhaps allowing the larger display to fit in a notebook with a similar physical size as the current 15-inch MacBook Pro.

IHS Markit analyst Jeff Lin believes the 16-inch ?MacBook Pro? will feature a 3,072×1,920 resolution and be powered by Intel's 9th-generation Coffee Lake Refresh processors, suggesting the notebook will be configurable with up to an 8-core Core i9 processor in line with the latest 15-inch ?MacBook Pro?.

Article Link: 16-Inch MacBook Pro Possibly Referenced in macOS Catalina 10.15.1 Beta
Now is a good time to start a thread on why it's a scandal that we cannot get 64GB of RAM on the 16 inch MacBook Pro.
 
All I really care about is a reliable keyboard, preferably with more travel.

Me too. That's why I bought a Lenovo X1 Carbon optioned up with the premium display.

Using it side by side with my employer-provided MBP 2019 it makes the Mac seem last-generation. My X1 Carbon is lighter, faster, more premium-feeling. Oh and that keyboard...incredible. Like butter.

I miss the touchbar and that's about it.
 
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Wtf, why is everyone complaining about the bezels

They're quite thin, almost, if not the same, like those found in Dell XPS
 
Me too. That's why I bought a Lenovo X1 Carbon optioned up with the premium display.

Using it side by side with my employer-provided MBP 2019 it makes the Mac seem last-generation. My X1 Carbon is lighter, faster, more premium-feeling. Oh and that keyboard...incredible. Like butter.

I miss the touchbar and that's about it.
if you dont miss the 4 tb3 ports and macos...then why you bought a mac in the first place ?!
For me, just the keyboard of X1 carbon i miss...the perf is there...the premium feeling is not there like it is on a mac
 
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Boooooring 😴😴😴.... Apple... innovate my ass

seriously, what do they spend all their r&d budget on?
 
If for gaming, can I ask why you didn't go the Bootcamp/NVIDIA route? Was it only because of having to run bootcamp?

In fact I need an GPU that also works on Mac for rendering purposes. I had an Aorus Gaming Box Geforce GtX 1080, but since Apple hates Nvidia, and possibly will never support it anymore, I had to look for an AMD alternative. And AMD RX 5700 XT is 10 - 15% faster than Geforce GTX 1080.
 
Boooooring.... Apple... innovate my ass

seriously, what do they spend all their r&d budget on?

GOOD!
They “innovated” so much that they made that abomination of a keyboard and touchbar.

A huge chunk of long time users just wanted spec bumps in the 2015 chassis generally.
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In fact I need an GPU that also works on Mac for rendering purposes. I had an Aorus Gaming Box Geforce GtX 1080, but since Apple hates Nvidia, and possibly will never support it anymore, I had to look for an AMD alternative. And AMD RX 5700 XT is 10 - 15% faster than Geforce GTX 1080.

Also of note - the latest beta yesterday unlocked AMD Navi support in Catalina, as reported by users at egpu.io
 
In fact I need an GPU that also works on Mac for rendering purposes. I had an Aorus Gaming Box Geforce GtX 1080, but since Apple hates Nvidia, and possibly will never support it anymore, I had to look for an AMD alternative. And AMD RX 5700 XT is 10 - 15% faster than Geforce GTX 1080.

Makes sense then, was just wondering as I'm thinking about getting a Macbook next year for work/gaming (replacing my current gaming system). Wondering if the consensus was to go AMD/NVIDIA if using Bootcamp, as I know the GPU is bottlenecked by x4 PCIE lanes, so a high-end GPU like the RTX 2080ti might be a waste :)
 
I don't think these are place holder images. If you go to the link in the article to the source website, there is a side-by-side comparison of the 2. You can clearly see there is a difference between models in their bezels.

Further, if you look at the keyboards... it looks like the 16 inch one doesn't have a Touch Bar. Look at the side by side image on the top row of keys where it is flat and smooth in the 15 inch, and the 16 inch looks like keys. Or at least, it looks like there is an escape key separate from the Touch Bar as well as a separate Power Button.View attachment 870559

If you can't see it, here it is zoomed up. Thanks MS Paint. View attachment 870579
Eagle-eye!
 
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Me too. That's why I bought a Lenovo X1 Carbon optioned up with the premium display.

Using it side by side with my employer-provided MBP 2019 it makes the Mac seem last-generation. My X1 Carbon is lighter, faster, more premium-feeling. Oh and that keyboard...incredible. Like butter.

I miss the touchbar and that's about it.

Ironically Lenovo actually had a touchbar in a 2014 model, but the implementation kinda was bad, if I recall, before it became popular on MacBooks.
 
Personally on my 2015 I always think its absence makes it look a bit like an off-brand clone! 💻


If the presence (or lack) of the logo is the biggest talking point, that will be a huge success. I won't be buying the 16" but I'm excited to see what they put out all the same.
 
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Would also be good if the new model could accomodate slight thickness for better cooling.
 
In addition to a larger screen size and better keyboard, I would love to see FaceID and better cooling (however that is done). That would convince me to buy this. If this is coming out this year, I can see it being a silent update. They can't pad an entire event with this.
 
Also of note - the latest beta yesterday unlocked AMD Navi support in Catalina, as reported by users at egpu.io

I wonder if the odds are good that the 16" might include a Navi part then. The fact that both came in on the same beta makes me think we had a merge from a MBP driver development branch into mainline in prep for release.

Makes sense then, was just wondering as I'm thinking about getting a Macbook next year for work/gaming (replacing my current gaming system). Wondering if the consensus was to go AMD/NVIDIA if using Bootcamp, as I know the GPU is bottlenecked by x4 PCIE lanes, so a high-end GPU like the RTX 2080ti might be a waste :)

The bottleneck will hold back peak performance from the card, but a high-end GPU is no more throttled than a lower end one. And you can still push higher quality or resolution if you want with them. What the lower bandwidth really hurts is having throughput to handle high frame rates. It's generally better to spend the GPU performance on higher resolution and quality settings than it is reaching for, say, 144Hz when you are using an eGPU.

But that means that it may not make financial sense to spend on a 2080ti if you aren't pushing 4K, or aren't trying to play Cyberpunk 2077 at ultra settings.
 
and because Catalina "is a disaster right now and is in production and shipping on every Mac" that somehow makes it relevant and bug free?
I might be in left field but if you believe that then you're in the food line waiting for a Dodger dog. I've always felt that in the past 10 years Apple was a bit fast on releasing OS that still needs more time in beta testing therefore I'm still going to wait until 2 generation. Just sayin. ;)
 
If the presence (or lack) of the logo is the biggest talking point, that will be a huge success. I won't be buying the 16" but I'm excited to see what they put out all the same.
Yep, looks like a conservative refresh, so hopefully they've just gone through addressing all the issues the current generation has. If that's the case this will be a really solid machine!

I'm not entirely sure, I was pretty set on moving away from Macs as I was convinced this was going to come with a significant price bump, it still might I suppose, but I will certainly keep my powder dry a bit longer and wait to see.
 
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