16-Inch MacBook Pro Returns to Pre-2016 Arrow Key Layout, Sticks With 720p Webcam and 802.11ac Wi-Fi

[MacRumors]

Apple today announced its widely rumored 16-inch MacBook Pro with a larger display and slimmer bezels, a new Magic Keyboard with a scissor mechanism and physical Esc key, up to 64GB of RAM, up to 8TB of SSD storage, AMD Radeon Pro 5000M graphics options, upgraded speakers and microphones, and more.

Here are some other things to know about the new 16-inch MacBook Pro:

• In addition to a scissor mechanism keyboard with a physical Esc key, another much-requested feature that Apple has reintroduced is an inverse-T arrow key layout, last used on the 15-inch MacBook Pro in 2015.
  Display brightness appears to remain unchanged, with the same brightness of up to 500 nits as the 15-inch MacBook Pro.
  Unlike the iPhone 11, which has 802.11ax aka Wi-Fi 6, the 16-inch MacBook Pro sticks with 802.11ac for wireless networking.
  The front-facing webcam remains 720p.
  A higher-power 96W charger is included in the box and sold separately for $79. That's up from 87W for the 15-inch MacBook Pro.
  AppleCare+ remains the same $379 price as the 15-inch MacBook Pro.
  As noted by Daring Fireball's John Gruber, there is about 0.5mm more space between keys. He also notes that the Touch Bar has been moved slightly further above the top row of keys to help avoid accidental touches.
  Unsurprisingly, given its new scissor mechanism keyboard, TechCrunch's Matthew Panzarino notes that the 16-inch MacBook Pro is not included in Apple's repair program for Macs with butterfly keyboards. Hopefully this means Apple is confident the keyboard is truly more reliable.

We'll update this list if we spot any other tidbits worth mentioning. Let us know if you spot any others in the comments section.

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The new 16-inch MacBook Pro is available to order today through Apple.com and the Apple Store app in many countries. It will be available in Apple Stores and select Apple Authorized Resellers in the United States later this week and is "coming soon" to stores around the world, according to Apple.

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[Diseal3]

Learning has occurred.

 

[dogslobber]

This sounds like the true successor to the 2015 MBP. We don’t talk about them other models in here parts.

 

[yossi]

Shocked they kept the headphone jack!

 

[jb-net]

Missing Wi-Fi 6 (which would have been available from Intel) and still using a 720p Facetime camera is disappointing.

 

[chucker23n1]

Unlike the iPhone 11, which has 802.11ax aka Wi-Fi 6, the 16-inch ‌MacBook Pro‌ sticks with 802.11ac for wireless networking.

That makes sense. They could've added a chip for Wi-Fi 6, but Comet Lake includes it, so that chip would be obsolete by the next revision.

Instead, we'll see Wi-Fi 6 (and up to ten cores) next summer with a Comet Lake-H speedbump.

Missing Wi-Fi 6 (which would have been available from Intel)

Not on a 45W chip.

 

[kinless]

I’ll buy the next rev of this in 2020. Prefer PCIe 4.0, Wi-fi 6 and LPDDR4. (Yes I’m a tech snob lol)

 

[compete12]

Scissor Mechanism? So typing is now LESS precise?
Oh well...as long as it's still CRISP.

 

[Gorms]

*Gorms stares angrily at the 15inch he is typing this on that he bought in June*
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[myscrnnm]

The arrow keys look horrible.

 

[Cosmosent]

The 500 nits Brightness spec makes it UN-desirable !

 

[MarioYa]

cheaper than expected.. 🤤

 

[4jasontv]

the Touch Bar has been moved slightly further above the top row of keys to help avoid accidental touches.

Thats great! I’d say I never use the Touch Bar but the truth is that I tap it accidentally all the time.

 

[Skyblve]

Got the 2019 mbp speced out fews months ago, Tim wtf

 

[riptidewahoo]

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0.5 mm or cm ?

It's 0.5mm.

0.5cm would be ridiculous.

 

[Brian Y]

Nice that they've bumped up the base SSDs, but I'm going to wait and see how the keyboard is. Quite a lot of people will jump on this, but I imagine a fair few, having been bitten by Apple's keyboards before, will give it a wide berth until the second revision.

 

[827538]

I'm overall a pretty big fan of this upgrade but why no 802.11ax? Intel has the AX200 module, it's on the iPhone 11? A little surprised at that when I checked out the tech specs.

Also my longstanding criticism of lack of 120Hz and VRR.

 

[baryon]

A physical escape key? A scissor switch keyboard? An inverted T arrow key layout? Apple deserves a lot of praise for these innovations! What's next? A replaceable battery or RAM? 3 years of warranty as standard? The future possibilities are endless!

I remember when Apple's "innovations" were limited to stupid marketing gimmicks like doubling the screen resolution, a multi-touch trackpad, new chassis materials, and the mag-safe connector. That was so boring. But this! A physical escape key! Let me just sell my car and get one of these babies!

No seriously I'm going to have to buy this as I've been waiting for too long for a new Mac due to the cursed previous generation.

 

[nStyle]

It's refreshing but also annoying to see Apple admit they were wrong about several things. I just wonder when they'll finally give up on the Touch Bar. I swear it's just too distracting to me and I never use it. It's just a hindrance more than a help.

It's tempting to upgrade now but I'm still waiting for a 120hz screen and FaceID.

 

[ibivibiv]

Shocked they kept the headphone jack!

Clearly, I mean it should be charging wirelessly and have zero ports at this point right? I mean, then it can be even thinner and who needs ports right?

 

[fokmik]

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0.5 mm or cm ?

its 0.5mm between

Wifi 6 for the 16" we will not get until late 2020 or 2021...for those who wants wifi6, wait for the 14" that will have the 10th gen Intel

 

[Bandaman]

Another great laptop crippled by a garbage GPU.

 

[cirial]

Bring back magsafe

 

[4493886]

Fun fact (source MKBHD) the battery is 100 watts, the max you can carry on a plane through TSA

 

[fokmik]

It's tempting to upgrade now but I'm still waiting for a 120hz screen and FaceID.

120hz maybe in 1-2 years...but faceID..i guess never since the lid is so thin.
Expect faceID maybe on the imacs