Given that 802.11ax will probably show up in the next release, and hopefully all the first gen issues will be ironed out, the next release of this should be a solid machine.
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16-Inch MacBook Pro Returns to Pre-2016 Arrow Key Layout, Sticks With 720p Webcam and 802.11ac Wi-Fi
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Doesn't make sense that the 13-inch retains the wider bezels and now looks older in comparison. Why not launch a 14-inch along with the 16-inch is beyond me.
While this adds quite a few good things, I agree. For the 720p camera, how thick is it compared to an iPhone 11's camera?
As for WiFi 6, I doubt I need the speeds, but wouldn't mind better coverage. Some places at home have bad coverage.
Cheapskate Apple still does not want to pay for state art wi-fi 802.11ax 2017 standard aka wi-fi 6, LPDDR4 RAM(2013) and face ID. Did not update the 13” MacBook Pro to 14” with slimmer bezel. LOL
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I am stunned by how much Apple has nailed my wishlist for this new 16" MBP:
I was previously looking at a configuration of $3,050 (or maybe it was $3,150, I don't recall) to get the fastest GPU. I can now get an even faster GPU for $2500 (or $2600 if I splurge for 8GB RAM), which is a huge increase in value.
The webcam was high on my list of hoped-for improvements, and it is disappointing to see no improvements their, but the other improvements and the effective price decrease more than make up for it in my book.
Edit: And how could I forget a physical Esc key! Another "check" in my book.
- Fast Navi-based GPU in the standard configuration - check.
- 512GB SSD in base configuration - check.
- Better thermals and bigger battery - check.
- Same price as previous base configuration (with benefit of larger, slightly higher res screen, better speakers, double the storage, faster RAM, much faster GPU) - check, check check!
I was previously looking at a configuration of $3,050 (or maybe it was $3,150, I don't recall) to get the fastest GPU. I can now get an even faster GPU for $2500 (or $2600 if I splurge for 8GB RAM), which is a huge increase in value.
The webcam was high on my list of hoped-for improvements, and it is disappointing to see no improvements their, but the other improvements and the effective price decrease more than make up for it in my book.
Edit: And how could I forget a physical Esc key! Another "check" in my book.
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Let’s just hope this isn’t a one off, and these changes trickle down the line
Pretty decent update considering previous ones. Would have liked:
-120hz+ refresh rate
-More powerful GPU
-Better thermals (although re-designed they look insignficant, we'll see)
-Even thinner bezels
-No touch bar
-Better webcam
-Wifi 6
-FaceID
-120hz+ refresh rate
-More powerful GPU
-Better thermals (although re-designed they look insignficant, we'll see)
-Even thinner bezels
-No touch bar
-Better webcam
-Wifi 6
-FaceID
Everything I wished for Apple did so good job Apple, now if only they can shrink this down to a 14 inch and it’s a instant buy from me, the keyboard and escape key was the two biggest issue I have with current
Has anyone found a reputable docking station that can deliver 96 watts or 100 watts of power for the 16" MBP?
720p in 2019 is disgusting and totally unacceptable.
I don't know any laptop that has a fantastic webcam right now. Webcams just are crappy and are far behind selfie cameras in phones. Even the $4000 Razer Pro with 4K OLED touchscreen still has a 1 MP 720p webcam.
Webcam technology has not improved. The lid would need to be much thicker to accomodate a better webcam or a FaceID module. So keep dreaming. Webcam will likely not change for a long time to come.
Is the entire screen size increase coming from the smaller bezels or did they make the laptop slightly larger physically? I'm hoping they kept it the same size, because the 15" Macbook Pro is the perfect size already for me!
Yes!
I want full-size arrow keys, please. While I understand that it would affect the look of the keyboard on the MacBook Pro I think it is inconsistent that the size of the arrow keys are so different compared to even the arrow keys on Apple's own stand alone keyboards – which in turn aren't consistent between each other either when I think about it (full-size left and right arrows and small up and down arrows on the compact keyboard for example).
I don't personally care about the webcam, the only small 'miss' for me is not bringing back SD card slot, and that was always a very long shot... mind you, so was increasing the value of this machine compared to the one it replaces so drastically!
damn still 60hz when others are using 120hz and above. Still just 4 ports when others have SD card reader, USB type A, HDMI ect...Still no magsafe....I am sorry this is not good enough especially for this asking price. Looks like I am staying with my 2012 until it dies.
Yes. LOTS of people were
Well, no. Show me a device that started with a repair program...
It's not about the size, it's about them being (arguably) easier to find without looking.
Pretty disappointing that this still has Touch ID. Touch ID is so unbelievably bad on the Mac. I've even tried turning it off and just using Apple Watch for what little that adds, and even when its off it still insists on Touch ID for Autofill. Unbelievable.