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Although some good news,
2 reasons why I am not getting this MacBook.

1- User upgradable RAM and SSD. A Macbook that you cannot upgrade the RAM or SSD, by any means, cannot be called "Pro". Why? many reasons. SSD have limited times they can be written. If it goes bad it can be easily replaced. If you need more Space you can upgrade to a larger size (without external drive). Same for the RAM. If you buy a computer with 16 and suddenly for a project you might require 32 or 64, it is quite ridiculous having to upgrade the entire computer. If you buy a car and you want to change the tires you do NOT change the entire car. It is just a lame excuse for Apple to force you to overpay their obscene RAM expensive pricing.

2- Bring back MAG-SAFE!
 
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I’d rather have no camera than a 720p camera. What good is that resolution? It’d be better to just use my phone.
 
While I understand the frustration with non-upgradable components, this particular issue is basically irrelevant even in extreme usage scenarios. SSDs are able to withstand even years of continuous intensive writing without issues.

Yep, old news - we're into petabyte territory now.
 
Why would I want to rest my fingers there? I have the entire keyboard to rest my fingers on. Please tell me you're trolling.

It’s a way to orient your fingers quickly when you’re using vi or other Unix tools while keeping your hands on the keyboard and your eye on the screen. He’s not trolling.

I have missed those inverted keys for quite a while.
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My 17" got dragged off a table by the power cable, despite MagSafe - and that was a brick compared to the current MacBook line. Maybe as laptops get lighter, MagSafe proved less effective...?
MagSafe was nice, but it was NOT a guarantee, particularly if it was pulled fast enough at the right angle, ask me how I know.:confused::confused:
 
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I cant believe no AX, only AC wifi. For a laptop that you may have for 5 or 6 years (as opposed to an iPad you may or may not upgrade every year), that's pretty weak
 
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Wifi6 is more than 30 percent improvement. I got over 100 percent increase in throughput when I switched to a Wifi6 router and installed the Intel Ax200. Even a Wifi6 router to a Wifi5 Client saw increased speeds (50%). It's strange that Apple put Wifi6 in the iPhone but not in the more expensive macintosh.

I partly work as a networking engineer, there's a really good in-depth article on 802.11ax that I'll try and find for you. It talks about literally everything 802.11ax brings and how it compares to 802.11ac.

So I can't find the article this second but this is also pretty good.

The real gains from moving to 802.11ax are mostly from moving to 1024-QAM rather than 256-QAM. There's a lot of other efficiency gains but that's the main 'speed boost'. Plus the 2.4GHz band is really seeing improvements for the first time since 802.11n.
If you are seeing massive increases like that it's likely not from 802.11ax so much but from an improved router/client device/firmware, perhaps even more antennas in both.

The current crop of 802.11ax routers are still very immature. SNB was testing a bunch of them and found there was some noticeable improvements to the 2.4GHz - which wasn't hard considering how old 802.11n is. But there was really not much gain in the 5GHz band vs 802.11ac.


According to the laws of physics and the standard if you are seeing a 100% increase in throughput it's down to something other than ac vs ax, it'll things like antennas and firmware. As like I said,802.11ax really does not offer more than around 30% given same interference/channel width/TxRx antennas.
Not saying you aren't seeing 100% gains, it's just not from ac vs ax.
 
It’s a way to orient your fingers quickly when you’re using vi or other Unix tools while keeping your hands on the keyboard and your eye on the screen. He’s not trolling.

I have missed those inverted keys for quite a while.

Everyone knows you shouldn't be using arrow keys in vi! :p
 
I did some configuring at the Apple Online Store and I have to say, this 16 is the best VALUE Apple has put out in a LONG time, this side of (non "Pro") iMacs and the base iPad.

Compared to all other Apple laptops, when configured similarly with regards to storage and memory, getting the 16 is almost a no brainer to spend the extra hundred or two.

I even weighed it against the Razor Blade 17, and although that has a (1.3 inch) bigger (touch)screen, Nvidia cards, a variety of ports, and upgradeable SSD, the pricing is very very close.

Furthermore, I love macOS so much more than Windows that the choice of letting all that flexibility go for comparably limited hardware in the MacBook is somewhat easy.

My 17 is going the way of the dodo, after 9 VERY LONG years. I'm happy to know that when it actually does, I have something to replace it with that was worth the wait.
 
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this 16 is the best VALUE Apple has put out in a LONG time

Compared to all other Apple laptops

hmm

Also..

I even weighed it against the Razor Blade 17, and although that has a (1.3 inch) bigger (touch)screen, Nvidia cards, a variety of ports, and upgradeable SSD, the pricing is very very close.

Bigger screen, touchscreen, NVIDIA GPU's, more ports and user upgradeable SSD...
Those are not trivial differences.
 
A physical escape key? A scissor switch keyboard? An inverted T arrow key layout? Apple deserves a lot of praise for these innovations! What's next? A replaceable battery or RAM? 3 years of warranty as standard? The future possibilities are endless!

I remember when Apple's "innovations" were limited to stupid marketing gimmicks like doubling the screen resolution, a multi-touch trackpad, new chassis materials, and the mag-safe connector. That was so boring. But this! A physical escape key! Let me just sell my car and get one of these babies!

No seriously I'm going to have to buy this as I've been waiting for too long for a new Mac due to the cursed previous generation.

Why does every positive change have to be "innovation"? Innovation is great when it happens, but giving customers what they want is worth something as well.
 
While I understand the frustration with non-upgradable components, this particular issue is basically irrelevant even in extreme usage scenarios. SSDs are able to withstand even years of continuous intensive writing without issues.
IT is NOT irrelevant. It is plainly bad design. If for any reason, the SSD goes bad, you need to change either the entire logic board or throw away the computer. How is that good design creating disposable appliances...? It is only good for Apple shareholders...
 
IT is NOT irrelevant. It is plainly bad design.

Design is about making tradeoffs. A bad design is one that doesn't fit the customer's requirements. If this doesn't fit your requirements, don't buy it.

You can argue that you think it's a bad design, but IRL you'd need to have actual data. Like how many SSDs really fail? How often? What percentage of the user base does that affect? Is this an aesthetic problem or an actual problem?

One person's personal preference does not mean the design is bad, unless that person is in a position to make decisions. And even then there should be more justification than "I feel that removability of components is important."
 
Design is about making tradeoffs. A bad design is one that doesn't fit the customer's requirements. If this doesn't fit your requirements, don't buy it.

You can argue that you think it's a bad design, but IRL you'd need to have actual data. Like how many SSDs really fail? How often? What percentage of the user base does that affect? Is this an aesthetic problem or an actual problem?

One person's personal preference does not mean the design is bad, unless that person is in a position to make decisions. And even then there should be more justification than "I feel that removability of components is important."

Design is not about making tradeoff. Apple has been making tradeoff for the past 4 years sacrificing function over design, with the paradigm of making things thinner... Did it actually work? NOT...
ALL the MAcbooks 2016+ were the worse products ever designed by Apple. And that is not just by me saying so.

Even a 10 year old kid knows that if for any reason, (damage or user need) you need to change the SSD or RAM and that requires to change the entire Logic board or throw away your computer that is a BAD design. If a single key brakes and you need to change the entire keyboard or even the Logic board, that IS BAD DESIGN. Why, because it waste money and it creates more waste. How about you ask Apple about releasing data of the percentages of MacBooks returns and fixes dues to bad keyboards...
 
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