LOL! Sure. I’m just ready for Apple to launch this sucker and move onto the Mac Pro and hopefully a refreshed iMac Pro.
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16-Inch MacBook Pro Touch Bar Layout Confirmed in Image Found in macOS Catalina 10.15.1
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Context sensitive macros. We have tons of them. They are quicker and easier to use than moving hands/focus to the mouse/screen. I never used macros before the Touchbar, now I use them all the time.
That event will look like the opening of the ark in Indiana Jones. When upgrade pricing is revealed, faces will melt.
Guessing it won't get more "serious" than the Pro Vega 20, which are just about to hit 12 months old.
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Very happy to see a separate touch ID and a (theoretical) separate escape key. Hopefully that will tone down at least some of the folks fruitlessly asking a model without touch bar, which isn't happening. I'd still like to see the touch ID on the side of the unit, so we could perform hard restarts in clamshell closed mode; but as I know that also isn't likely to happen, this setup is already much better.
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The leaked picture is surprisingly revealing. Couldn't resist and modelled the 16" MBP (modifying the 15" model) based on this image and the previously-leaked icon - they fit together nicely.
Here are some observations discovered during modelling:
Here are some observations discovered during modelling:
- Body dimensions: approx. 360 x 248 mm
- Display dimensions: 346.8 x 215.36 mm ... 16.07"
- Display bezels: top: 10 mm, side: 6.5 mm
- The display hinge is slimmer and longer.
- A bit smaller radius of corners of the body, allowing smaller display bezels.
- Slightly greater horizontal gaps between keys, same keycap sizes.
- OCD: the speaker grille has 3885 holes: in 37 columns and 105 rows
The leaked picture is surprisingly revealing. Couldn't resist and modelled the 16" MBP (modifying the 15" model) based on this image and the previously-leaked icon - they fit together nicely.
Here are some observations discovered during modelling:
Renders attached.
- Body dimensions: approx. 360 x 248 mm
- Display dimensions: 346.8 x 215.36 mm ... 16.07"
- Display bezels: top: 10 mm, side: 6.5 mm
- The display hinge is slimmer and longer.
- A bit smaller radius of corners of the body, allowing smaller display bezels.
- Slightly greater horizontal gaps between keys, same keycap sizes.
- OCD: the speaker grille has 3885 holes: in 37 columns and 105 rows
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Love the work, Will be interesting if the case get thicker for more air flow threw the unit, the speaker/vent holes lets more air to be sucked in and expelled out the back of the laptop, help reduce thermal throttling of the laptop with a fast i9. Interesting what ports we might see added or removed, maybe they will have one usb 3.1 port or new magical thunderbolt 3 magsafe port
sounds like you haven't hackintoshed for a while
1st off there are many vanilla friendly builds(so you can take an update because it doesn't replace the legit kernel or in some case drivers (kexts) with a hacked/tweaked/alternative thus updates work without breaking anything) but outside of that with injected drivers, and such like that minor aberrations are fine.
additionally, when you take into consideration that many of the Pro's that feel abandoned by Apple because of the lack of powerful machines, tend to have a IT background or at least tend to be quite computer savvy (thus their need for such power that apple isnt providing) its not as uncommon as you would think.
then take into consideration in business environments you tend to update less (if it ain't broke don't fix it) those issues are even less of an issue if they existed at all.
heck even with real mac's most of mine are still on high sierra because of a need for good GPUs and CUDA
the only time I've had the kind of experience you describe in the last few years is picking any random PC hardware and trying to make it suit the hackintosh lifestyle for fun.
most people who plan to be primarily Hackintosh make educated part choices especially in a work environment.
Answering my iPhone without picking up the iPhone. Scrubbing through video and audio tracks alone while keeping my hands on the keyboard and off the Trackpad alone is worth it to me.
Although Apple will never allow an odd number of ports on each side, I would like the audio jack moved to the left side cause most cans have a cord on the left side and one USB-C 3.1 Gen 2 (through the PCH) on each side, meaning the front most two ports are TB3 and the rear most port on either side is USB-C. This would help port complainers and free up a valuable Thunderbolt 3 port for more important duty. Won’t happen to prevent “user confusion”, but it would all things easier. I actually think they may put the SD Card port back, but still too thin for HDMI.Love the work, Will be interesting if the case get thicker for more air flow threw the unit, the speaker/vent holes lets more air to be sucked in and expelled out the back of the laptop, help reduce thermal throttling of the laptop with a fast i9. Interesting what ports we might see added or removed, maybe they will have one usb 3.1 port or new magical thunderbolt 3 magsafe port
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You’re going to get 1 out of 6 of those. Upgradeable GPU? Seriously? Maybe a Sager, but never an Apple. A 2TB standard drives up cost unnecessarily. MagSafe is DEAD, let it go. TouchBar stays standard. Less reflectivity is possible, but no matte coating is likely, even if the display is XDR.
I hate that we have to get so excited just seeing an ESC key. I get pre event hype and I enjoy it, but this is not the type I was looking for lol
Pro Users: Hey Apple, we don't like the touch bar, can we have a top end macbook without it?
Apple: Here, have an escape key
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Apple: Here, have an escape key
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how come the MacBook webcam is still of the same quality as the ones from 20 years ago ... it's also insane
I'd like to see a better webcam or FaceID too, but the lid would have to be a lot thicker for that to work (as I understand it).
They can keep their gimmicky nobody-asked-for-it touchbar.
Apple wants Touchbar install base so as to improve it in future OS updates. It's a good idea, it's just poorly supported by the OS. They even added it to Sidecar on the iPad.
They will not remove it, stop complaining and learn to love it instead
Install BetterTouchTool, it turns the Touchbar into something very useful.
E.g. (not mine):
They will not remove it, stop complaining and learn to love it instead
Showing the current time and battery so that you can auto-hide the menu bar; showing the current weather, showing current playing song on Spotify, let you increase/decrease Spotify volume by two-finger-swiping even when HDMI disables audio control, custom per-app and per-context macros, etc.
Install BetterTouchTool, it turns the Touchbar into something very useful.
E.g. (not mine):
Do. Not. Want. Touch Bar.
Apple doing their best to make me an XPS user. Sucks to feel that Apple is falling off so hard from even 6yrs ago.
Apple doing their best to make me an XPS user. Sucks to feel that Apple is falling off so hard from even 6yrs ago.
Windows 10 is not bad—I’d argue it’s bordering on pretty good. I’ve had to use it along side my Mac equipment for development purposes and I’d say the stability of Windows 10 is impressive. I use the windows key to search like I use spotlight.
just commenting because you used the word torture and I’d say that’s a massive over exaggeration.
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You should try it for a couple months. Windows 10 is very easy to use.
I’d have to agree. It’s different. But it’s not torture. If I could run FCP X on Windows I would seriously consider bringing a Windows laptop with me every day.
I know it's a lost cause but the X1 Carbon and the X1 Extreme / P1 seem to have got so much right!
All those ports, performance, awesome keyboard/trackpad/trackpoint AND a thin/light form factor.
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Dell’s newer XPS 15 is looking like a good option too — considering the specs (+ports) for price.
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I used to use FCP and Coda (for web dev) as my preferred professional tools, but with mediocre hardware updates over the years mixed with lackluster Touch Bar experience, I have since switched to Premiere and VS Code which work on both platforms.
Still holding out hope for them to drop the Touch Bar and maybe add back the sd card reader or anything that’s been requested by professionals—if not, I suppose I will end up dumping my Apple equipment—which is truly a hard thing for me to even think about, let alone be seriously considering
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I just got a new job and they issued 15" macbook pros with touchbars. JESUS CHRIST. What a colossal waste of time. I'm glad these are side machines because I would die if I had to actually use the laptop for more than 5 minutes a week. I'm happy with my new personal iMac purchase and I guess I'll keep waiting for a good macbook pro.