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I guess you dont understand the update cycle for MacBook Pro. Base on all MacBook Pro models, Apple released at least one major or minor update such as new CPU or GPU on every year and all new design updates every 4 years.
I guess you don't understand what Apple did recently. They updated the GPU in the MacBook Pro less than 6 months after its release. That's unheard of for Apple.
 
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I guess you don't understand what Apple did recently. They updated the GPU in the MacBook Pro less than 6 months after its release. That's unheard of for Apple.

And that's one of the annual updates that I mentioned lol. AT LEAST ONE MAJOR OR MINOR UPDATE EVERY ONE YEAR. Do you really think that I dont know about MacBook Pro's release information?

Read before you make a comment.
 
And that's one of the annual updates that I mentioned lol. AT LEAST ONE MAJOR OR MINOR UPDATE EVERY ONE YEAR. Do you really think that I dont know about MacBook Pro's release information?

Read before you make a comment.
You should try to understand Apple's release cycles before making a fool of yourself. MacBook Pros are updated once per year, if that, not every few months. In fact, the release of the improved Vega GPUs only a few months after the original release ticked off a bunch of owners and led to more than a few complaints, angry YouTube videos, and media articles.

You should have a better grasp of the subject you attempt to discuss.
 
You should try to understand Apple's release cycles before making a fool of yourself. MacBook Pros are updated once per year, if that, not every few months. In fact, the release of the improved Vega GPUs only a few months after the original release ticked off a bunch of owners and led to more than a few complaints, angry YouTube videos, and media articles.

You should have a better grasp of the subject you attempt to discuss.

Gosh, do you speak English? Huh? What did I say before? "AT LEAST ONE MAJOR OR MINOR UPDATE EVERY ONE YEAR." What the heck are you saying? Does it mean only one update per year? NO. It can be one or more updates per year and that's what I've been saying from the beginning and yet you trolling in front of me. I clearly understand how the cycle works. Don't be ignorant in here.
 
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And that's one of the annual updates that I mentioned lol. AT LEAST ONE MAJOR OR MINOR UPDATE EVERY ONE YEAR. Do you really think that I dont know about MacBook Pro's release information?

Read before you make a comment.

Gosh, do you speak English? Huh? What did I say before? "AT LEAST ONE MAJOR OR MINOR UPDATE EVERY ONE YEAR." What the heck are you saying? Does it mean only one update per year? NO. It can be one or more updates per year and that's what I've been saying from the beginning and yet you trolling in front of me. I clearly understand how the cycle works. Don't be ignorant in here.
Oh dear... didn't your mum ever tell you that shouting doesn't make you right?

Nothing you said reflects an actual MacBook Pro release cycle. When did Apple ever release another MacBook Pro update less than 6 months after a major refresh? Go ahead... crickets. The issue isn't one update in a year, it's two updates in less than half a year that pissed off a bunch of people who bought on the major refresh. You don't even understand the issue you are trying to discuss.
 
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Nothing you said reflects an actual MacBook Pro release cycle. When did Apple ever release another MacBook Pro update less than 6 months after a major refresh? Go ahead... crickets. The issue isn't one update in a year, it's two updates in less than half a year that pissed off a bunch of people who bought on the major refresh. You don't even understand the issue you are trying to discuss.

Now that's an easy one:
  • May 2006: Apple bumps processor speeds, adds glossy display option for 15-inch MBP. That's 4 months after the original MBP was introduced (Jan 2006) and just 3 months after it shipped (Feb 2006).
  • April 2006: Apple announces the first 17-inch MBP. Punch in the face for everyone wanting the largest possible screen who bought the 15-inch that shipped just 2 months before, huh?
  • October 2006: Apple introduces the Core 2 Duo MBP in 15- and 17-inch. 5 months after announcing the original 17-inch.
  • March 2009: Apple adds two faster processor options (at same prices) to the Late 2008 15-inch MBP, 5 months after introducing that very first unibody model (Oct 2008).
  • June 2009: Apple introduces the Mid 2009 MBP 17-, 15- and for the first time 13-inch, featuring faster processors, larger hard drives, SD-card slot, much larger batteries AND lower prices. That's 5 months after the very first 17-inch unibody was announced (Jan 2009) and just 4 months after it shipped (Feb 2009).
  • October 2012: Apple introduces the very first 13-inch Retina MBP, just 3 months after a huge refresh to 15- and 13-inch unibody models and introduction of the original 15-inch Retina MBP (June 2012).
  • February 2013: Apple lowers prices and bumps processor speeds with the Early 2013 13-inch Retina MBP, only 4 months after introducing the original 13-inch Retina MBP (Oct 2012).
Most of these examples seem much "worse" than what Apple did now, merely adding two higher-end BTO graphics options at correspondingly higher prices—without any other (price or otherwise) changes to the lineup—4 months after the current models were introduced. I wouldn't even call that an update to the MBP.

As always: No matter how Apple decides, people complain either way.
 
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Oh dear... didn't your mum ever tell you that shouting doesn't make you right?

Nothing you said reflects an actual MacBook Pro release cycle. When did Apple ever release another MacBook Pro update less than 6 months after a major refresh? Go ahead... crickets. The issue isn't one update in a year, it's two updates in less than half a year that pissed off a bunch of people who bought on the major refresh. You don't even understand the issue you are trying to discuss.

OMG. Stop ignoring my point. They always update their MacBook Pro AT LEAST ONCE per year. There can be two updates. I've been saying the same thing since the beginning dude.

So what? I'm telling facts here and yet you are talking about the different topic. My original statement is still true: They update MacBook Pro at least more than once per year. If you gonna moan about releasing major or minor updates within 6 months, TOO BAD. They've been doing that for several times. As MrUNIMOG said, there are more than once which they updated within 6 months.

And now, it seems you are the one who is not understanding what we are talking about huh?
 
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Come on, guys, stop asking for USB-A ports. That ship has definitely sailed.

Why do you keep asking for a slower, less versatile port, when Apple gives you FOUR freaking Thunderbolt 3 ports? At the very leat, ask for two more, and/or an integrated SDXC card reader on the extra available internal space…

As for MagSafe, I’m as sad for its demise as any of you here are, but they won’t revert to it either, for the very simple reason that they want to streamline their supply chain, and having the same USB-C cables for the entire laptop range and the iPad Pros just makes a lot of sense in that regard. You can also buy aftermarket MagSafe replacements on the cheap, didn’t you know?

What would make total sense would be for them to fix the damned keyboard already, and rethink the entire ribbon-display-cable-sans-connector situation. Those two are borderline criminal, especially on a range of very expensive machines widely know until now for their reliability and ease of repair. The same goes for the ominous T2 killswitch, which I’m hoping Apple is forced to never, ever force upon users who don’t really need to have a government-agency-level security clearance, thanks to right-to-repair laws across the world.

Finally SOMEONE gets it. My ONLY argument for a break from “tradition” is the redesign looks so tough I don’t think the design is salvageable. They saved on 2019 iMacs and removed T2 chip so outside the confusing offer of a 256GB Vega 64X (technically) 2017 iMac Pro w/T2 issues since Jan 2018 for $15,000, I’m wondering if they might of kept 2017 iMac chassis and just pulled T2 to save money to produce a new MBP a year early? Display “flex gate” could backrupt and push away more customers if they don’t make a radical move in my opinion. Question is do then have time? They are doing damage control on so many fronts including Qualcomm modem patent infringement baring iPhone sales in their biggest emerging market (China) and 12.1.4 STILL hasn’t fixed LTE Celluar and even WiFi issues trying to make their Intel modems work without infringing on Qualcomm modem models.

It is a faint reminder of Samsung during Note 7 issue. Note 4 flagship got Android 6.0 and bricked half of Note 4s around the world and didn’t have time to write a patch for people who spent $950 on a Note 4 less than 2 yrs prior because they didn’t have a single phone on Android 7 and had Samsung VR gear trying to release for all while trying to first fix Note 7 and then recall all Note 7s with not even S7 on Android 7 over Christmas! Meanwhile even Nexus 6P was on 7.1.2 already and Samsung was just spread too thin.
 
I wonder if we will see something like this at the 3/25 event this Monday.

It's funny how Apple has been releasing a new iPad Air category (which I'm actually excited about as I don't like FaceID), new AirPods, and a new iMac refresh ahead of the special event.

Hmmmmmm.......
 
I hope these new laptops come soon. I've been hanging onto my 17" MBP since 2011, despite its infamous overheating GPU issue. Love the screen size. It's currently going through another bout of overheating but I'm trying to keep it alive for just a few more months.
 
Features this thing needs:

  • Emoji-bar optional.
  • No condom keyboard.
  • Matte screen option.
  • nVidia GPU.
  • User upgrade-able Ram and SSD.
  • Apple pencil support built in the Trackpad.
  • Mag-safe
  • Cooling solution that doesn't throttle (excessively).
  • Illuminated Apple logo on the back, just because damn it.. it's a Mac!!

IMO, It would be also great if they added HDMI, an SDXC reader, and USB Type-A ports as well. A 6GB nVidia GeForce RTX Max-Q option, better cooling, Xeon CPU, and 64GB RAM would actually put me in-line. In terms of cooling, Apple should've just put Kryonaut gaming paste and magnesium or titanium thermal-treated fans since plastic doesn't do well in heat anyways instead of redesigning it to be thinner. The base fan speed should default at 3000rpm...no more, no less. To me, Apple pencil support would to be optional for those who wouldn't want another thing to lose and would gladly pay extra for that feature.

I strongly agree that the emoji touch SHOULD be optional and that the "condom keyboard" should be redesigned...maybe to 2015 specs?
 
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-HDMI
-SDXC reader
-thicker design in order to allow user to upgrade RAM and SSD
-enough ports (4 USB-C are just not enough!! Cintiq, 3 external screens, external HDD enclosure, power, SD card reader, iPhone charging point, I just have 8 things connected!...)
-"Fn" real keys option
-Apple pencil support or a Surface-Pro/Cintiq Mobile version (Apple things "digital artists" are only the ones who use Procreate, but After Effects, Animate CC, Lightroom, Capture One, Illustrator, Animation tools as Harmony, ZBrush, Premiere, Final Cut are also people who in some cases can't work without a Cintiq, come on!! and don't tell me to use iPad-Mac links as Astropad to work with high demanding software as computers are just struggling to work with them to add another layer of software)
 
Any chance we'll get a 16" MBP with an option for no touchbar announced at WWDC??? :D

Highly unlikely. If there is to be an update, it will be around October when Apple tend to make major update announcements to the Mac.

I'd expect some kind of major Mac event within the next 12 months. Apple will hopefully announce the modular Mac Pro, a revamped iMac & a new 6K display that's been rumoured.

The current disastrous MacBook Pro line needs to be binned & complete redesigned from the ground up. I think it's unlikely to be this year, so Apple will continue to offer crap for the time being, but new MacBook Pro's can't come soon enough.
 
Highly unlikely. If there is to be an update, it will be around October when Apple tend to make major update announcements to the Mac.

I'd expect some kind of major Mac event within the next 12 months. Apple will hopefully announce the modular Mac Pro, a revamped iMac & a new 6K display that's been rumoured.

The current disastrous MacBook Pro line needs to be binned & complete redesigned from the ground up. I think it's unlikely to be this year, so Apple will continue to offer crap for the time being, but new MacBook Pro's can't come soon enough.

I think odds of a 'perfect' MacBook Pro are higher for an improvement on current design than something completely new, given how much problems fits-gen products can have and how likely it is that a redesign departs quite a bit from current standards.
 
At this point a 16” would be a nice, but I doubt we’ll see significant changes in design. A bezel-less 16” MacBook Pro with the same ports but updated specs is more realistic than Apple adding “ancient” USB-A ports and HDMI and MagSafe.

I’d love to see a full-fledged 17 or 18” with better cooling and throttling that would allow extended use of the i9 chips.
 
Stop demanding legacy ports. Not gonna happen. Besides, on the 15", Apple gives you four---FOUR---of the fastest, most capable consumer ports in existence, which can serve as all of those things. So what if you need a little dongle. Better than having to settle for a slow port because something is already plugged in to thunderbolt 3
 
IMO, It would be also great if they added Thunderbolt 2, HDMI, an SDXC reader, and USB Type-A ports as well. A 6GB nVidia GeForce RTX Max-Q option, better cooling, Xeon CPU, and 64GB RAM would actually put me in-line. In terms of cooling, Apple should've just put Kryonaut gaming paste and magnesium or titanium thermal-treated fans since plastic doesn't do well in heat anyways instead of redesigning it to be thinner. The base fan speed should default at 3000rpm...no more, no less. To me, Apple pencil support would to be optional for those who wouldn't want another thing to lose and would gladly pay extra for that feature.

I strongly agree that the emoji touch SHOULD be optional and that the "condom keyboard" should be redesigned...maybe to 2015 specs?
can't tell if this is satire or not
 
New, revolutionary features that would make me buy the new MBP:
  1. Make it so that the keyboard actually works for more than a week (I know this basic thing that every other manufacturer has figured out is still difficult for Apple but I'm sure they can figure it out with some brainpower)
  2. Ditch the touch bar (because it adds a lot of extra cost without making the product better, if not worse)
  3. Make the thing as thick as it needs to be to have good enough cooling. Performance is more important than thinness in a pro machine.
  4. SD card reader
  5. HDMI port
  6. Normal USB ports instead of the useless weird ones that aren't compatible with anything
  7. nVidia GPU
Oh wait... I've just described their previous generation! So yeah. Just re-release the previous generation design. With an up to date CPU and GPU. And since this design already exists, I'd expect a price drop, too.
 
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