17" Unibody MacBook Pro with Non-Removable Extended-Life Battery

[Digital Skunk]

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Oh, so simply put, you don't know anything and you are talking out of your @$$. Typical.

If it's the first battery of its kind for the mobile electronics market, then that qualifies as bad news. I see a potential product recall in the wind.

Same here, and it's a shame that the pros/users with sense actually understand this and some people from far left field just don't get it.

I am not saying that I don't want longer battery life, just that technology permits us to have both form and functionality. Making the battery NOT user replaceable on a machine that costs $3000 is not functional.

Everyone's opinions aside......

IT IS NOT FUNCTIONAL!

p.s. Apple will loose all credibility in the professional world if they make a 17" MBA only. It will truly be a sad, miserable day for professionals that use their machines for real work.

 

[detz]

:drool: This image just makes me want one even more, I can't wait to see what the final uni-body looks like...can't wait until Tuesday!!

I will probably cry if they don't release the new 17" model.

 

[Gunga Din]

Oh, so simply put, you don't know anything and you are talking out of your @$$. Typical.



Same here, and it's a shame that the pros/users with sense actually understand this and some people from far left field just don't get it.

I am not saying that I don't want longer battery life, just that technology permits us to have both form and functionality. Making the battery NOT user replaceable on a machine that costs $3000 is not functional.

Everyone's opinions aside......

IT IS NOT FUNCTIONAL!

What he said lol

 

[mrfaithful]

Oh, they'd better not! I'd rather have a removable battery than a larger capacity one... or even better, two batteries in at the same time, so I don't have to shut down the machine to swap batteries.

Now there's an idea... Maybe THAT's the deal here and whoever got the info for the story got the wrong end of the stick. Maybe the 17" DOES have an internal battery *in addition to* the normal removable one.

That would both make sense AND be a great innovation.

 

[thedarkhorse]

It's not about carrying around extra batteries. It's about being suckered into having to buy applecare because after 2 years your depleted battery needs to be replaced but you can't just go buy one, you have to send your laptop into apple.
I can't imagine how much apple will be ripping off people that will need the batteries replaced out of warranty, not to mention the waiting.

 

[brad.c]

For those of you patiently reading through 350+ in order to find out what I personally think about the possibility of a non user-replaceable battery, here we go:

I don't like it.

Tomorrow, I will render my opinion of a side-hinged laptop.

 

[Digital Skunk]

For those of you patiently reading through 350+ in order to find out what I personally think about the possibility of a non user-replaceable battery, here we go:

I don't like it.

Tomorrow, I will render my opinion of a side-hinged laptop.

It's sad that this is all that has to be said, or the opposite of course if you are leaning that way.

Personally, the idea was terrible in the Air, but people got over it for the sake of thinness and lightness.

This just shouldn't be for a laptop that is 17" and still hasn't made it to quad core and WiMax and 8GB of RAM.

 

[petermcphee]

I think this is true, and I think if people give it a chance before condemning it, they'll like it.

 

[Gunga Din]

I think this is true, and I think if people give it a chance before condemning it, they'll like it.

"The more you tighten your grip, Apple, the more star systems will slip through your fingers."

 

[shamash]

Hi,

Try using this. I used it in the past and it worked really well. I even noticed some other people using it.

s.

LOL I just wanted to agree hardcore. I'm a sophomore in college and I don't bring my Macbook to every class to take notes. I'd say I very rarely ever see people with computers in classes, unless it's a huge lecture class and they're playing games.

 

[Eric S.]

Additionally, the 13-inch Plastic MacBook is widely expected to be phased out

Not surprising. Typical bait-and-switch. I expect it's true if Apple has cleared out a sufficient amount of their old inventory at new computer prices.

Difference is, cell phone's and batteries have similar lifespans, but computers are expected to last longer. pretty much nobody keeps a phone for longer than 2 years, because that's the contract length. But computers? I hope for four years out of mine, at which point the battery will be long dead.

Not me; I've had my cell phone for years (and I have replaced the battery) because it's just what I want - a phone (no camera or other unnecessary jazz) in a small but perfectly usable size, and I haven't seen any new model that appeals as much to me. Computers, on the other hand, I get the itch to replace every couple of years because their specs jump substantially in that time.

How do you know Apple haven't invented or are using some kind of battery that runs down but doesn't wear out completely after a few years

Because Apple doesn't invent batteries, and if anyone else had it would be common knowledge by now.

 

[shamash]

It's sad that this is all that has to be said, or the opposite of course if you are leaning that way.

Personally, the idea was terrible in the Air, but people got over it for the sake of thinness and lightness.

This just shouldn't be for a laptop that is 17" and still hasn't made it to quad core and WiMax and 8GB of RAM.

All your posts are so negative, and you don't even know the statistics of how this new battery will work from Apple, if they even have a new battery / newly functioning battery.

1) Wait until MacWorld Expo
2) If you like it based on what they say, buy it.
2b) If you don't like it based on what they say, don't buy it.
3) Get over it and stop complaining. They don't make their laptops specifically for you, they make them for the majority of the consumers, and in the case of the 17" Pro, the pro-sumers, buying them.

 

[AidenShaw]

It was a great innovation in 1995, at least.

Maybe the 17" DOES have an internal battery *in addition to* the normal removable one.

That would both make sense AND be a great innovation.

Yes, the Toshiba Satellite Pro 400CDT that I bought in around 1995 had three batteries - the main one, an internal rechargeable that would maintain memory for about 5 minutes when swapping main batteries, and the CMOS/clock battery.

Great machine - 10.4" brilliant TFT screen, 640x480 24-bit color graphics (almost unheard of at the time), 75 MHz Pentium, 8 MiB of RAM expandable to an astounding 40 MiB. a 4X CDROM, a huge 810 MB hard drive, and 2 PC Card slots.

Nice to see that Apple may match its features

Oh wait, Apple would never put two expansion slots in a current laptop!

 

[MattInOz]

I am not saying that I don't want longer battery life, just that technology permits us to have both form and functionality. Making the battery NOT user replaceable on a machine that costs $3000 is not functional.

Everyone's opinions aside......

IT IS NOT FUNCTIONAL!

How removable is removable enough?
If we are talking the difference between removable with a coin, to removable with a small number of screws. The Air that everyone points to and says is "non-removable" is what 4 screws and a clip. The difference is 5mins instead of 1.

 

[Beric]

I personally am offended that the 17" MBP costs $3000. With its specs, it's not even worth $1500. Oh wait, thinness is worth $1500.

 

[Digital Skunk]

All your posts are so negative, and you don't even know the statistics of how this new battery will work from Apple, if they even have a new battery / newly functioning battery.

1) Wait until MacWorld Expo
2) If you like it based on what they say, buy it.
2b) If you don't like it based on what they say, don't buy it.
3) Get over it and stop complaining. They don't make their laptops specifically for you, they make them for the majority of the consumers, and in the case of the 17" Pro, the pro-sumers, buying them.

Why even bother saying this? Like I am the only one here that thinks the rumor is a bad one? Last time I checked there are about 15 pages of posts saying the same thing I am.

Not to mention the people straight up bashing the current price and specs of the 17" MBP.

How removable is removable enough?
If we are talking the difference between removable with a coin, to removable with a small number of screws. The Air that everyone points to and says is "non-removable" is what 4 screws and a clip. The difference is 5mins instead of 1.

So, I can have a coin in my pocket or a key (most likely to have at any time), or carry a screw driver with me and hope not to loose the screws on a flight/trek/assignment.

 

[NT1440]

I personally am offended that the 17" MBP costs $3000. With its specs, it's not even worth $1500. Oh wait, thinness is worth $1500.

Only you would be personally offended. You're the one always complaining about the price of Apples products right? So how can you continually be pissed off at something you completely expect?

On a side note, I'd never buy a 17" laptop, they are simply too big to be portable for me.

 

[Beric]

Only you would be personally offended. You're the one always complaining about the price of Apples products right? So how can you continually be pissed off at something you completely expect?

So wait... you're saying it's impossible to be annoyed with something you expect to happen?

I expect Apple to continue to charge 2x what their products are worth. And yet I'm still annoyed by it.

 

[sushi]

When was the last time that Apple had a different case design concept between the 15 and 17 inch MBP models? Never happened has it?

IMHO, if a new MBP 17 is introduced, it will be very similar to the 15 inch version. It will include panel that is very easy to remove that allows access to the battery and HD.

In the future, maybe we will see a new MBP line format that has a non-removable battery. But not at this MacWorld.

 

[Poll Smoker]

Unless it's just a BTO option in which case it's not so terrible a move.

Who the hell would choose having a non-removable battery as an option for a 25% increase?

 

[powers74]

replacements

They didn't replace the horse and buggy with a car with that went slower, and had NO way to put gasoline in it.

You obviously have no clue about automotive history. Cars were far slower than horse and buggy for the first decade or so, and many were not gasoline powered. Porsche's first car was electric with the motors in the wheel hub.

bad analogy.

 

[megfilmworks]

Currently weight restrictions make it next to impossible to carry a 17" macbook pro and one extra battery in a substantial case on board an international flight.
(not to mention the dangers of Lion batteries on airplanes in general)
It will only get worse.
The only option: a better battery that doesn't need to be swapped.
Brilliant Apple.
It won't take long (if this rumor is true) for the average consumer to appreciate this as well as the benefit to the environment of newer battery technology.

 

[powers74]

right

It would be interesting if Apple released a larger Macbook Air and not a smaller one considering how many people want the latter. Could be very interesting.

Yeah, I see what you mean. I guess the way I see it, the weight savings would be more important in that huge 17in machine than in a, say 7 - 9in machine.

 

[megfilmworks]

That was quite cool with the old wallstreet powerbooks. You had two bays on the side where you could swap out a battery bay for an optical/disk drive.

Wow, I had one of those. It was the first laptop that I know of that had
a DVD player for one of the slots (or two batteries etc.)
No one had seen them, except us wacky Mac addicts.
I met a lot of Flight Attendants watching my DVD's. It was not only practical but a great conversation starter.
Those old batteries were very heavy and had very short lives. I think they were NiCads.

 

[NT1440]

So wait... you're saying it's impossible to be annoyed with something you expect to happen?

I expect Apple to continue to charge 2x what their products are worth. And yet I'm still annoyed by it.

I thought that it was the market that decided what was worth what?(yes im well aware you are a spec jockey)

Apparantly people have considered macs at their prices worth it, to the tune of $25 billion.