Did you miss that the ZPower are Silver-Zinc batteries, and maybe these "dangerous" silver oxide batteries are something different? I doubt ZPower would get all this "green love" if they were hazardous.
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Did you miss that the ZPower are Silver-Zinc batteries, and maybe these "dangerous" silver oxide batteries are something different? I doubt ZPower would get all this "green love" if they were hazardous.
I have a 12" PowerBook G4 and had to replace the battery (I don't have a spare) when there was the recall. I just took the battery out, took it to the local Apple shop and then got the new one. I ain't a "pro" user (actually my wife now uses the G4 most of the time) but I can understand the issue with having to take in the entire laptop just to replace the battery.
Gosh, I certainly hope you were joking. Oh it's SOOO much work to take in the ENTIRE laptop. Isn't that what we all do with laptops, carry them? All Apple has to do is remove the screws on the bottom and replace the battery onsite. Not difficult work. Again, I'm sure you were joking but if not, your post is stupi....
Yup, we saw that with housing prices all over the world. The people who were saying that they were overpriced got that little economics 101-speech. Unfortunately, that economics dogma only works in a vacuum. Things CAN be overpriced, and one can be annoyed with something even if it is expected.
I thought that it was the market that decided what was worth what?(yes im well aware you are a spec jockey)
That's what happens when people think like lemmings and marches to the tune of misunderstood and overly simplified economics (and the tune of "everyone else" and their grandma): A huge corporation skims the cream or worse.
I guess, though, being an Apple fanboy, you'd propably make the exception (and thus nullifying your argument) when it comes to windows and office, right?
Well, in his defense, not everyone can just walk into an Apple store or tech center.
I get the whole take your laptop here and there but.....
Not to mention, the rumor may be true, but there is no definite number of screws to remove.
On one hand I've only ever had 1 machine with 2 batteries (12" PowerBook) and there was a few occasions where both came in use. But would I sacrifice that for a much longer batter life on a single battery? Probably so I wouldn't need to waste the space carrying the extra battery.
But hmm.
But hmm.
Good god tosser, you can post without calling everyone that happens to like apple a fanboy. You seriously brought housing prices into a talk about computer prices? The thing I said about the market deciding was me saying to some people, actually alot of people, the price is worth it. If no one was buying because of the price then you can say as fact that they are overpriced, but the fact remains that the combination of style/OSX/support is worth being "overpriced".Yup, we saw that with housing prices all over the world. The people who were saying that they were overpriced got that little economics 101-speech. Unfortunately, that economics dogma only works in a vacuum. Things CAN be overpriced, and one can be annoyed with something even if it is expected.
That's what happens when people think like lemmings and marches to the tune of misunderstood and overly simplified economics (and the tune of "everyone else" and their grandma): A huge corporation skims the cream or worse.
I guess, though, being an Apple fanboy, you'd propably make the exception (and thus nullifying your argument) when it comes to windows and office, right?
I thought that it was the market that decided what was worth what?(yes im well aware you are a spec jockey)
Apparantly people have considered macs at their prices worth it, to the tune of $25 billion.
My reply to that would actually be that the market has been fooled. Especially with the Intel processors, the only difference between Mac and PC is now the OS. Is that really worth twice the price? I used to think so, but now I think otherwise.
this may have been mentioned.
What about a permanent smaller battery that allows the user to swap out the main one without turning off the computer. For a few that works on site where a power outlet is not available, this is very convenient.
Yes it was mentioned. My 75 MHz Toshiba Satellite had that 18 years ago.
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/6867703/
This is why there is no definative answer to that question. For some the answer is yes, for others its no.
this may have been mentioned.
What about a permanent smaller battery that allows the user to swap out the main one without turning off the computer. For a few that works on site where a power outlet is not available, this is very convenient.
I remember seeing somewhere that the Macbook Pros (or was is the larger Powerbooks?) already have a small battery just for that. You can close the lid, change the battery and open it up again, even before it had the time to go to sleep. I think that was the reason why the small laptops had the coin-thingie to release the battery but the bigger ones had more easy to use flaps.
The safe sleep thing works well but it takes a minute to wake it up again. When you put your Macbook goes to sleep, it saves the RAM's data into a file on the hard drive (that's why it takes much longer to sleep than the Apple Desktops where it's basically instant). Now if you interrupt the power supply (swap battery, remove power adapter while there's no battery installed) and wake it up again, you get a monochrome picture of your screen and a progress bar while it loads the data back to the RAM.
Nope, I brought housing prices into a talk where the fella claimed some overly simplified economics was a real argument.
Oh, so you merely tried to lend your opinion credit by making belief it was some universal economical rule. Good. Now we know.
You know – the reason I asked you to test your argument's validity with Microsoft (or MacDonald's, for that matter) is because I knew you wouldn't. Because had you done so, you would have realised your opinion is not a universal economical rule. But I notice you don't do that, even though you bark at me calling you a "fanboy".
Hmm, that depends. Again, I'm really not into overly simplifying things. When doing so, things tend to get not only overly simplified, but banalties, dogma, and - in the end - entirely wrong. What's worse, people stop to question them because "everyone knows they're true – because everyone says they are" …
Perhaps the people who did the research, instead of those just arguing for the status quo?
My point was NO ONE is right, because the value of a device is purely in the eyes of the potential buyer.
What research is out there that studies the worth/value of a mac compared to a different computer (and i mean research, not a spec to spec chart or comparison, computers are alot more than just specs).
We're both. It depends on what parameters, or premises, we put forth. From a technical standpoint they're not. The only way they can "be worth it", is by using such intangible things like "feel" and such unmeasurable parameters. The problem with that sort of thing, of course, is that we're moving away from parameters used to measure "utility", "productivity", and so on closer to such things like "crap in a can" which, although are worth much in certain social groups, really aren't about anything tangible, but supposedly "art" and other immeasurable things.
Actually, such a thing is called a cost/benefit calculation. Something most dimwitted consumers don't do. Take a look at the average McD-consumer, average WalMart consumer, and on – including the average MB-, iPod-, and iPhone buyer.
I forgot to mention, that what you (guys) do, even though it's enveloped, is make an appeal to popularity. The masses must be right. However, it's a logical fallacy.
I take it that a computer is merely a tool to you then if your parameters are utility and productivity.
Its what we see the product as that defines what each of us thinks its "worth".
Edit: to the cost/benifit, how do you define the worth of certain things?
How much is the magsafe worth, especially for us who have dealt with Jacks breaking because of clumsy relatives?
How much are the little things worth? ichat is going to be a HUGE plus for me in college, but I cannot assign an actual value to it.
There are many little things on macs and others that really you cannot put a definate price on, thats where spec VS spec (which that essentially is when u figure out you can't put a price on the little things) fails.
Of course a computer is merely a "tool" to me. It's a tool I can get enjoyment of as well (like being here, for instance), but a tool, nonetheless. What else is it?
That one is worth quite a lot, to be honest. I have pulled two computers on the floor (both Macs) which didn't have it. One of them (my TiBook) broke the screen and hinges.
However, it's worth much less than, say, Firewire or matte screen. Specs that actually mean something real and direct, considering it's a tool.
Hm, since I can get the same functionality no matter what computer I use, a thing like iChat has zero value to me.
One should always begin comparisons by finding things that are similar and can be measured. Secondly, one should look at one's workflows, needs, and only then should one begin to try to compare all the intangibles. And be certain that the really, really small stuff (iChat …) doesn't blind one.
I really hope your not implying my choice to buy a macbook soon is based solely on ichat.....
Yeah - I think it is.
Why does that not surprise me....
I hope not though, surely no one could think so lowly or fanboy-ly
confused of someone that they could spend $1400+ of hard earned money for ichat.....