Originally posted by Jack Tenric
You are obviously not worth listening to if you are only interested in comparing only Mac vs Mac. You seem to be a Mac advocate. Good, so am I. I'm constantly recommending Mac to people. How can you convince people to switch? One way is to compare hardware to PCs. That's why Apple does the PhotoShop/Quake3 comparisions. PC to Mac comparisions matter, whether you like it or not.
You'll note that I didn't say that comparative speed wasn't important. In fact, I said it was a huge factor in getting people to switch. Hell, my favorite part of every MW keynote is Phil Schiler's Photoshop bake off. I just said that Mac to Mac comparison is key when discerning the importance of upgrades. As a loyal Apple user, I have no intention of running out to buy a Windows system, no matter how great its performance, gaming or otherwise. I, like most others, use Macs because they're reliable and easy to use. Hardware matters, but the OS is still the key selling point here.
"Third, I honestly don't care HOW long you saved to buy your Mac"
You obviously do or you wouldn't have written such a long retort.
"Quit playing the poor little me card. I'm not buying it."
I played no such card. I mearly stated how I purchased my system. You on the other hand have decided to attack me from the start. If you cannot post to a forum without acting more civilized then you really should not post at all. You said that I was acting spoiled, but this is not the case, when you consider that I was comparing Mac to PC. If I was comparing Mac to Mac then yes, I most certainly would be acting spoiled.
I think that if you check all of my posts, you'll find that they're fair, honest, and occasionally helpful. I do not, however, pretend to tolerate whiners very well. I think it's fair to say that your first post was more than a bit whiny, so I don't apologize for addressing it as it needed to be addressed. Listen to me or not, that's up to you. As for the Mac vs. Mac vs. Mac vs. PC issue, we'll meet in the middle and consider both. That way you're only acting half childish.
If you think that I'll never be satisfied with system speed then you are mistaken. I would be plenty happy with my old 66MHz system. There are lots of great old apps and games that run on it. I am hoping to run the current games well and if you even had any knowledge of the Mac gaming scene you would realize that Mac gaming performance is far behind the performance you get on the PC. These new systems from Apple should help level the playing field in this area somewhat. This is excellent news and while I can't wait too much longer, this is merely because I require a faster machine such as a DDR equipped system for some upcoming tasks that I will be doing.
I don't doubt that Mac gaming performance isn't up to far with the Wintel world. And I do have quite a bit of knowledge of the Mac gaming scene, as I'm a fairly active gamer who keeps up to date on both availability and performance via both personal gameplay and reviews/benchmarks. I'm just saying that if gaming is the sole reason you're on the Mac you've been sold a bill of goods. Get real about this one. Apple's sales, unlike many PC manufacturer's, aren't driven by the gaminng market. Their focus is on education/creatve pros/home users. All that and, until recently, they've been right at the top of the heap in terms of game performance.
"Second, don't blame video card problems, driver or otherwise, on Apple. ATI writes the Radeon drivers, not the good people in Cupertino. Get your facts straight."
Perhaps you should stop assuming what people know or think before you blame them. That's a nasty habbit that gets people in trouble. Seriously, I'm not insulting you by saying that. I am just saying that it's better to go with facts and not assume things. It's obvious that ATI does the drivers. I'm not blaming Apple for that. Nowhere was that stated. I was stating the general Apple situation for gaming. ATI just happens to be a piece of the puzzle, a factor to include if you will.
Speaking of assuming being a nasty habit, maybe you should give your post a look. I once heard a story about pots calling kettles black. You may not have blamed Apple directly for writing bad drivers, but you sure went out of your way to heap the lion's share of criticism on them for poor driver performance. I think it's fair to say that you inferred that it was somehow Apple's fault that your video card's performance was substandard. Again, I won't argue with you about the current state of Apple gaming, but it's not even remotely all their fault. Hardware develpers (ATI, NVidia), driver authors, game developers, and Apple all share the blame for this one. Don't single Apple out just because the problem show up while you're fragging on their machine.
I could say that I hope you never get a better computer in your life but I'm not going to be like that. That's just wrong. It is my wish that you too will some day be able to enjoy a newer system. There's nothing like trying out a new computer for the first time.
I, too, want a newer machine. The whole point of this is that if we can wait this long, what's one more damn month? Jesus man, think seriously here for a minute. Are those few extra dropped frames (if you even have any with that setup) going to kill you if you have to wait an extra month for the next big thing? Best of luck to you, Jack, and no offense, but get real.
