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Funny you should mention that very item. Because of the way my 403b is run from my former employer, every withdrawal requires the notarized signature of my spouse and paperwork mailed to them before the electronic transfer. My wife is actually my bit locked protective encryption.
It is. You use the same app for 10/20 years, no updates, not supported, you’re going to have security issues. But hey, you only bought it once.
I'm genuinely curious what sort of external security threats you're envisioning on an Apple ][e?
*The fact that it is critical I can not have it under the terms of "pay or else" . If Netflix cuts their streaming service, so what? but if 1password stops working I might lose all my logins to all my accounts including stuff like bank info. Once I buy it I need to know it will keep on working.
*Business can make a profit, but then get greedy. 1Password has been around since 2006 and somehow they are successful on the license model, then decided to make it difficult to get the license and push subscription. Now that they have major user base they got greedy and decided to force everyone on constant subscription.
For example, Youtube can put 1 ad per 5 min video and I am ok with that. Then they decide to make more profit they put 2 ads, then they get greedy and decide 5 ads per 5 minutes...and thats the point where I start using adblock. Greed killed them.
1password had a good thing going on but now that they forced subscription because of greed, they will lose customers and people will promote the free and open source app Bitwarden. No subscriptions or licenses. I am going to guess a lot of people will be happy to know they can get a password manager for 0.
Nonsense. You can export all your passwords from 1Password if you decide to switch apps. You're not a prisoner. Also, the subscription model sure doesn't seem to be hurting other companies that use it. Believe me, they're not going to continue to do something that loses them money. If they thought selling perpetual licenses would make them more money, then they'd do so. If they continue with subscription only and see a loss of profits over time, they'll re-think it. That's what's so great about the free market - the market gets to decide these things ultimately (unless the business is just stupid, in which case they'll go out of business). It's not greed; it's simple economics. So vote with your wallet - but just know that it will take a whole lot more than just a relatively small group of disgruntled users jumping ship to make a company change their pricing structure.
It's amazing the reaction at subscription apps. I don't like it but ... EVERYONE is doing it today because.... it results in more stable income for the company to pay developers their hourly/salary wages. Companies today no longer abide by the rule of having stagnant money sitting around, meaning when hard times hit, there's nothing to fall back on.
Despite the small minority here of overall users (my opinion), most people will continue to use 1Password, and they may even gain users over time.
I'm starting to get very fed up with subscriptions - I've gone out of my way to cancel about 60% of stuff I subscribed to this year alone. I used to spend hundreds and hundreds a year on applications - I love supporting developers and trying new things but ... I am getting so fed up with subscriptions, I'd rather have more $ in my bank account than feel forced to use an app cuz I'm paying monthly for it.
I think 1Password's biggest competition is going to be Apple Keychain. MOST people will look at a monthly subscription and choose keychain. Few of us who are heavy password manager users will keep paying for 1Password but for most people I know (easily vast majority) - Chrome password manager, Keychain, or something of the sort is more than enough for what they need.
I've been a long time 1Password user and I really liked the beauty and power this application had. Like DayOne - I wasn't terribly happy when they went subscription and left iCloud but ... I followed them both and still pay for both for now. But I don't like that my data sits on their cloud for several reasons: They have the key and if they go out of business, they'll stop paying for their cloud.
You could also argue the opposite - with a subscription, a unhappy user could cancel and switch to another service at any time, so there is a strong incentive to maintain quality, feature parity (at least) with competitors and so on. It’s a lot easier to switch to a different hotel than to move house.
I think there are merits to both models, and both can produce high quality, innovative software, and both can produce complacent, shoddy work. It’s easy to look around and see examples for all of these.
With 1Password and other similar services I’m much more interested in maintenance than innovation. Shiny new features are always fun, but I can’t really think of anything missing from 1Password. Maintenance, on the other hand, is critical. I’m not a software developer, but I imagine this is one of these areas where there is a huge amount of work to be done just a stand still - keeping up with new OSs, new browser versions across many platforms, dealing with all sorts of web design edge cases that need fixing, staying on top of emerging security threats, etc. So it seems to me to be a product that better suited to a stream of regular, minor updates rather than periodic new Big Bang releases.
Not sure I quite understand this perspective. Why would you subscribe to a software or service that you don't use all the time (or at least very frequently)? I wouldn't!
No, I do not think I have any 2FA enabled on the vaults. I am using on iOS 15 beta 5, what about you? I will, nonetheless, delete and reinstall and see how that goes.
Right now, the app starts fine, I unlock it and can use it once. But if I close it off using App Switcher and start it again, then it refuses to launch until a restart of device.
Also, Enpass is out of the equation for me. It just gave me a cause for concern out of the blue.
I updated the password to my Standard Chartered account and decided to use Enpass to see how that works. Password updated successfully. Better than the processes with 1Password right now, I mean, fewer clicks.
But, where is the damn password? It was not updated in the SC entry in Enpass! I decided to try something and went to the change password screen again, and discovered that there is a "change password" section in Enpass that has a HISTORY, and there was my password changed from 5 minutes ago. Promptly copied that password out of there.
I am NOT a fan of what just happened here. Password should have updated in the entry and should have had history like 1Password. I will now try changing a password with Bitwarden and see how that fares. Enpass is good, but this ... can be disastrous and I am not happy with this. Enpass has a lot going for it, I like it, but a password changed on a website not getting reflected in the vault entry is... heh.. what to say.
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It was in the context of trying out new things. Back when I used to spend $200+ / year on applications because I liked trying new things out, I would buy them just to try them out, then not use them for as much time as I wanted because I owned them.
Today? Almost everything I want to try has a subscription. Granted, "trials" are now a thing but they're fairly recent - before "trials" became a thing, I'd want to try out applications and then end up subscribing to them and .... not using them - but feeling bad because I knew clock was ticking and $ going because I wasn't using them. This is not really an issue today with trials (more of my own experience when subscriptions started becoming a thing).
So today I'm a lot more reluctant to try new things out and unless I'm using something heavily, I will not allow it to be a subscription.
just to note: trials aren’t a new things. I remember days yonder when before purchasing software some would allow you a trial period before you had to enter a license code. This was back in the days of Mac SE/30 and the likes.
But I hear you regarding not wanting subscriptions.
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Funny you should mention that very item. Because of the way my 403b is run from my former employer, every withdrawal requires the notarized signature of my spouse and paperwork mailed to them before the electronic transfer. My wife is actually my bit locked protective encryption.
Better keep her happy and satisfied, sir.
If you have used it to change a password on a website, how does Enpass handle it for you?
I found that the changed password was not updated in the vault entry, and I had to look for that password through some hoops that I did not know existed, and finally managed to recover that changed password.
Oh, there you go. I'm still on iOS 14. I would be shocked if they didn't make it work fully with iOS 15 when it is released weeks from now. I'll report if they don't!
I already published an open-source program called "1password-opvault" that decrypts and exports the opvault format to the JSON Lines format. I'm aware there are products with the capability of importing those vaults–now it's just easier for other newcomers to work with the format as well.
If you don't like 1Password, do you have plenty of other competitors to turn to? You do. It's a free market.
Find me a place that still has a modem service available so I can plug in my 110baud modem to and let's find out together. If you can't find one, then one would have to be in physical possession of my IIe to be a threat to it... Assuming that I plug in the modem at all. No network card for this, either.
External threat now non-existent.
Internal threat: Do you know the 6502 architecture? How to hack.. wow.. an 80-column card? If so, let's see if we can get more than 80 columns out of it!
You also assume that only 1 OS can run on it. You'd be wrong here, as there are at least 3 that can be used; and yes, Linux has been ported to the 6502. Regardless, good luck in finding out which one I'm using.
I'd love to see the WAPers try their hands at this gem and die laughing inside on how hard they try to work their way around it.
BL.
If you own a copy of the application an the license to use it, why would you subscribe to that software or service to use it?
If you paid for and have a thick copy of MS Office, why would you pay to subscribe to Office 365? I wouldn't, but if you want to be willingly fleeced of your money, that's on you.
BL.
After all is said and done, what is the closest (best) alternative?
I've been with 1pw since V 3.5.5 (2011, @ $39.95 USD, I'm in Aus, so more $$), never really looked at other options, now I am, so I need some help.
I use macOS, iOS, Android, and Windows PC, so diverse no doubt, always have incorporated 1 PW with credit card details , pictures, front and bank , Gov info, (like social services etc) Health cards, and all of the various things I can store, so more than just a password manager.
I am looking non stop at options, so please don't think I'm lazy, I'm not, just looking for some help in alternate direction.
If there is nothing better, I'll stick with 1 PW, I am a paying customer and have no problem to continue to subscribe, so $ is not a factor in my decision.
Any help is and will be appreciated.
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I've been with 1pw since V 3.5.5 (2011, @ $39.95 USD, I'm in Aus, so more $$), never really looked at other options, now I am, so I need some help.
I use macOS, iOS, Android, and Windows PC, so diverse no doubt, always have incorporated 1 PW with credit card details , pictures, front and bank , Gov info, (like social services etc) Health cards, and all of the various things I can store, so more than just a password manager.
I am looking non stop at options, so please don't think I'm lazy, I'm not, just looking for some help in alternate direction.
If there is nothing better, I'll stick with 1 PW, I am a paying customer and have no problem to continue to subscribe, so $ is not a factor in my decision.
Any help is and will be appreciated.
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