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So let me get this straight. There are people whining STILL about MMS, video recording, a2dp, bluetooth file transfer, landscape SMS/email, and copy/paste? Did any of you that are complaining read a single review or browse the specs prior to buying the iphone?

Dear god, people still have the right to complain here about basic features lacking on the iPhone considering these features have been around for 2 plus years before the launch of the 3G. We are not talking about new features that have recently came out after the 3G. :p

But with that said, those complaining need to stop and think...Apple is not going to give you what you want. Why? Because they need to differentiate each iPhone from the next one. The best way to do that is to enhance features you want, hence you upgrade. It's all about money. After all, those features above could have been in the first gen iPhone if Jobs really wanted it to.
 
Dear god, people still have the right to complain here about basic features lacking on the iPhone considering these features have been around for 2 plus years before the launch of the 3G. We are not talking about new features that have recently came out after the 3G. :p

But with that said, those complaining need to stop and think...Apple is not going to give you what you want. Why? Because they need to differentiate each iPhone from the next one. The best way to do that is to enhance features you want, hence you upgrade. It's all about money. After all, those features above could have been in the first gen iPhone if Jobs really wanted it to.

I agree here 100%.
 
I would agree with that, and I'm 35 (so not exactly "young"). I have no idea at all how many ounces and in a pound, how many pounds are in a stone, how many yards are in a mile etc.

When I started school in 1978 I was taught the metric system, nothing else. Anyone my age or younger (which is probably more than half the population now) has no idea what the imperial system is all about, so those who complain about it need to bear that in mind.

I'm 20 and to be honest, have no idea how much a centimetre is. When measuring height or small distances, it always feels more natural to use feet and inches. Similarly, when in food shops, I much prefer to order in pounds and ounces as that is what my parents have always been accustomed to and that is what comes naturally to me. Yes, we learned it in school and I know that there are 2.5 cm to the inch and 100 cm to the metre etc. but I still prefer to think in feet and inches and pounds and ounces.

I may be a weirdo but that's just how it is and I'm damned if I'm going to change just because a bunch of Europeans tell me to :mad:
 
Thats BS, considering the fact that pretty much every reviewer and even some Apple store employees will tell you "it doesn't have *insert feature here* but is probably gonna be added in a future software update. Even steve/Apple have touted the use of software updates to add functionality to the phone

No offense but your criticism is utter nonsense

+1.

When people buy an iPhone, they are not just buying a phone, but are buying into the Apple philosophy. We all own Macs and we all look forward to their firmware updates. They add stability and sometimes features. This is the Apple philosophy - their products are not static, but Apple strives to continue to improve and refine their products. They are not like Microsoft, where what you see is what you get. We bought our iPhones with the same hope - that they would continue to be updated and improved.

What other cellphone in existence offers continuous firmware updates? The iPhone offered this for the first time. The iPhone's firmware updates continue to offer improvement (or so we thought). I highly doubt there is anyone on this board who does NOT anxiously look forward to firmware updates - because each offers a hope of improvement or added features. So to say; "you knew what you were buying, so don't complain" is very short-sighted.
 
I'm 20 and to be honest, have no idea how much a centimetre is. When measuring height or small distances, it always feels more natural to use feet and inches. Similarly, when in food shops, I much prefer to order in pounds and ounces as that is what my parents have always been accustomed to and that is what comes naturally to me. Yes, we learned it in school and I know that there are 2.5 cm to the inch and 100 cm to the metre etc. but I still prefer to think in feet and inches and pounds and ounces.

I may be a weirdo but that's just how it is and I'm damned if I'm going to change just because a bunch of Europeans tell me to :mad:

Hell yeah! My car gets 25 furlongs to the hogshead of coal and that's the way I like it! You and your fancy "miles" and "pounds"....things were just fine in 1880 without your witchcraft!

+1.

When people buy an iPhone, they are not just buying a phone, but are buying into the Apple philosophy.

Not really....I bought a phone. I couldn't really care less about the Cult of Apple. Well, certainly no more than it cares about me, which is not at all.
 
I may be a weirdo but that's just how it is and I'm damned if I'm going to change just because a bunch of Europeans tell me to :mad:

This isn't about Europe. It's about not using out dated measurements. Blaming Europe is pathetic. There's a reason why we grow old and eventually leave, because as a race we don't really cope with change very well. That's the great thing about new generations, they are supposed to embrace the new.

The thing is mate, you can hang on to inches and ounces, but the the rest of the young population hasn't.
 
Not really....I bought a phone. I couldn't really care less about the Cult of Apple. Well, certainly no more than it cares about me, which is not at all.

I'm not really talking about the "cult of Apple." I could care less about that myself. I definitely don't drink the kool-aid Steve Jobs serves. What I'm talking about it is Apple's philosophy of always striving to better their products through firmware/software updates, which are constantly evolving. Can you honestly say that you do not look forward to iPhone firmware updates with excitement? If you do, then you really can't be 100% satisfied with the iPhone you originally purchased.
 
The problem is that as a young person in the UK, I have been brought up with metric units, with the exception of miles. So really, I need a metric with miles option.

In what other place does the iPhone use different units other than distances on Maps and the 12/24 hour time format though?

Personally I think that the formats should be user customizable, as they are on a regular computer rather, than people being forced to use presets which fail to recognize these kinds of situations. But at least having separate UK (Metric) and UK (Imperial) options would be a quick solution that requires no extra engineering and fits in with Apple's configuration philosophy.

Incidentally, as someone who was at secondary school in the late 1980s, I was taught how to ask for "ein Pfund äpfel, bitte" in German lessons, let alone elsewhere!

Michael.
 
I may be a weirdo but that's just how it is and I'm damned if I'm going to change just because a bunch of Europeans tell me to :mad:

They are not. The reason for the metrification laws, which only relate to the sales of goods and service, is to ensure an open market with the EU. So that all companies use the same system and it does not become a barrier for British companies to trade in Europe, or European ones to trade in the UK, because they use a different system.

One of the main reason for the EU abandoning the idea of banning imperial units from appearing alongside metric ones is that it would restrict opportunities for trade with the US.

Edit: Anyway to stay on topic I have upgraded to 2.2.1 and have had no problems so far.

Michael.
 
The thing is mate, you can hang on to inches and ounces, but the the rest of the young population hasn't.

Although they still use calories, pints, miles, and stones. But unless Apple only want to sell iPhones to "the rest of the younger population" forcing people to measure distances in kilometres makes their products fall somewhere between counter-intuitive and partially useless to a large part of the market.

Michael.
 
Exactly! finally someone who understand it. I mean we are all aware of what we are buying and i think most of us (atleast me) are very happy with iPhone but still that is no excuse why we should not have other good and useful features available out there. And just as you say if we dont complain we will never see improvment! So dont fall in line blindly because its a apple product please even if they do great no awesome products sometimes they are arrogant to the customers and their needs.
Btw why do you think DRM protected music was removed from iTunes!
DRM was removed from iTunes - not because of customer complaints, but because of their competition removing It. I take your point though.
 
This isn't about Europe. It's about not using out dated measurements. Blaming Europe is pathetic. There's a reason why we grow old and eventually leave, because as a race we don't really cope with change very well. That's the great thing about new generations, they are supposed to embrace the new.

The thing is mate, you can hang on to inches and ounces, but the the rest of the young population hasn't.

There's embracing the new and then there's ramming change down people's throats, as the Europeans were trying to do before they saw sense. Personally I have no problem with people using metric if they want to and I recognise that we are isolated in using imperial and the Americans even have a different "gallon" to us!

I am fortunate enough to have been educated in a manner that I am able to convert (either using my iPhone conversion apps or in my head :p ) between kilos and pounds, millilitres and pints but most of my parents' and grandparents' generation are not so fortunate. Having worked part-time in a supermarket, I was frequently asked by elderly customers how much a packet of meat or vegetables was "in real money" because the metric system just didn't make any sense to them, yet they are supposed to take it in the name of "change".
 
But with that said, those complaining need to stop and think...Apple is not going to give you what you want. Why? Because they need to differentiate each iPhone from the next one. The best way to do that is to enhance features you want, hence you upgrade. It's all about money. After all, those features above could have been in the first gen iPhone if Jobs really wanted it to.

Unfortunately I have to agree. After all, their main drive is to make $.
 
I just updated. Everything is fine. I wonder if I'll see any improvements since it's only a minor update.
 
when you click an appstore link, a popup confirms with you wether you want to open the appstore app :D
 
Yeah, I can actually post something of relevance.

Since updating, I didn't notice a difference between updates until today. Is it just me or with this update, does google automatically open up with it's "mobile" version EVERYTIME you open up safari. At first, I just thought that the settings were set to default but after switching to classic mode at google.com, I noticed that the phone reverted back to mobile view each time I re-opened safari. I hate mobile view. I didn't notice this with 2.2. If it was like that in 2.2, Then I apologize and stand corrected.
I hate it when people write apps choose settings they think you like and eliminate you from making choices.
 
Although they still use calories, pints, miles, and stones. But unless Apple only want to sell iPhones to "the rest of the younger population" forcing people to measure distances in kilometres makes their products fall somewhere between counter-intuitive and partially useless to a large part of the market.

Michael.

Um, how is calories not metric?

The amount of energy/heat required to raise the temperature of 1 gram of water by 1 degree celcius.
 
What other cellphone in existence offers continuous firmware updates? ...

Ah, but what other cellphone has so badly NEEDED continuous firmware updates?

The iPhone's OS was noticably immature when it first shipped. It was also deliberately and rather severely limited in its ability to run third party apps, number of menu items, and app options.

Other phones came with the ability to run more one menu page worth of apps. They didn't have huge browser holes that require multiple updates, including the very first one. They already run background apps.

They also have access to continuous updates of things like Google and MS apps. Many other phones also get yearly OS updates.

They could already store thousands of texts and contacts, without having to be updated. And they won't need updates to do forwarding, use MMS, do videos and have Bluetooth stereo / transfers / keyboards.
 
something new??? Or do I just not pay attention?

OK, correct me if I'm wrong on this, maybe I just have never noticed it before now. ...
I did the update, and tonight when I was syncing, I noticed that down on the slide bar, while syncing, it said "slide to cancel".
Has that always been there?? If so, I guess I have never really looked at it when syncing in the past.
 
OK, correct me if I'm wrong on this, maybe I just have never noticed it before now. ...
I did the update, and tonight when I was syncing, I noticed that down on the slide bar, while syncing, it said "slide to cancel".
Has that always been there?? If so, I guess I have never really looked at it when syncing in the past.
always been there.
 
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