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2.6GHz PowerMacs Tomorrow?
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I'd have to say that any comments dismissing the gripes of the mac community over a lack of 3ghz machines are misguided. Yes I am certain the new machines will be excellent and continue to out perform their PC breatheren, but I am also certain of specific comments from the CEO of Apple Comp. stating that 3ghz would be here by WWDC. Those machines should be here now. Any belief otherwise is simply fanboyism gone arry. The priority for us as a community is to have technological dominance, thus drawing more users to the mac marketplace. 2.6 ghz is not dominance. The promised 3ghz is dominance.
Greg
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probably no 3GHz then
If we get a 2.6 dual tomorrow, I'd be shocked if we saw a 3GHz by WWDC. The only way it'd happen would be:
a) apple doesn't fill the lineup tomorrow. Maybe they leave an "Ultimate" slot open for a WWDC announcement. Kind of a way for SJ to say, see? I told you so!
b) Apple releases a new, low volume workstation model with the 3GHz processors.. maybe something based of the Power5 instead of the 970fx.
I doubt A) since 2.6 to 3GHz is a big jump for one model step in the line up of their machines.
I doubt B) but not as much as A). Making an expensive OS X (Unix-like) workstation would be an interesting move but only if they could guarantee workstation upgrades. No one is going to buy a $6000 Macintosh unless it is wicked fast AND then only if it has support for Professional rendering cards/drivers and such. I'd love to see Apple offer a real workstation but they'd need to simultaneously announce new 3rd party hardware and software support. No one will buy an expensive mac workstation if it doesn't run their apps and if it doesn't support the hardware they require.
I'd have to guess that if this is true, we'll see 2.6GHz till at least fall.
Personally, I'm happy with a 30% boost in one year.. it'd be better than Intel or AMD has managed.. but I'd really like to shut up the PC zealots who are screaming "Steve Jobs is a Liar!!" because he repeated what IBM assured him.
If we get a 2.6 dual tomorrow, I'd be shocked if we saw a 3GHz by WWDC. The only way it'd happen would be:
a) apple doesn't fill the lineup tomorrow. Maybe they leave an "Ultimate" slot open for a WWDC announcement. Kind of a way for SJ to say, see? I told you so!
b) Apple releases a new, low volume workstation model with the 3GHz processors.. maybe something based of the Power5 instead of the 970fx.
I doubt A) since 2.6 to 3GHz is a big jump for one model step in the line up of their machines.
I doubt B) but not as much as A). Making an expensive OS X (Unix-like) workstation would be an interesting move but only if they could guarantee workstation upgrades. No one is going to buy a $6000 Macintosh unless it is wicked fast AND then only if it has support for Professional rendering cards/drivers and such. I'd love to see Apple offer a real workstation but they'd need to simultaneously announce new 3rd party hardware and software support. No one will buy an expensive mac workstation if it doesn't run their apps and if it doesn't support the hardware they require.
I'd have to guess that if this is true, we'll see 2.6GHz till at least fall.
Personally, I'm happy with a 30% boost in one year.. it'd be better than Intel or AMD has managed.. but I'd really like to shut up the PC zealots who are screaming "Steve Jobs is a Liar!!" because he repeated what IBM assured him.
Mitthrawnuruodo said:
SERIOUSLY...you can't just NOT watch the keynote. That'd be like skipping out on watching the Superbowl because, 'well, I know one of the teams will win, so that means the other is gonna lose.'
lol - Im SO going to be in Chi-town that day! Downtown or Schaumburg.
yeah.. there is no way they will announce 2.6 tomorrow AND announce 3.0 at WWDC at the end of the month ... people around here get pissy when their Mac isn't the best after the normal product cycle time... imagine if those people buy the 2.6 and 3.0 comes out 12 days later.... ANARCHY!
My time has come...
...to buy a G5. Dual 2.6, dual 3.0, whatever.
Yes, Steve Promised a 3.0. However, $#!t happens, and IBM had some problems. Now, shut the F up and buy a cool somputer. My future dual 2.6 (or whatever it is) will kick the crap out of any P4. End of story.
...to buy a G5. Dual 2.6, dual 3.0, whatever.
Yes, Steve Promised a 3.0. However, $#!t happens, and IBM had some problems. Now, shut the F up and buy a cool somputer. My future dual 2.6 (or whatever it is) will kick the crap out of any P4. End of story.
I cant believe some of the people here. Given this news how could you possibly imagine, even in your wildest fantasies, that Apple will release 3Ghz machines by WWDC or even September. If Apple releases 2.6 Ghz machines tomorrow, there will be no upgrade for another six months at least. This upgrade makes sense given IBMs problems with yealds at high clockspeeds. The soonest you can expect them to reach, or surpass, 3 Ghz is the end of the year or Jan.
I have heard rumors from 'The Company' that there is a revision past 3 GHZ sooo... I'll just wait after the summer.
what other improvements?
8X superdrive= pretty sure the eMac has one
PCI-Express=hope so
Standard 1GB Ram= would be nice
Standard 250GB HD= nice as well
Standard Airport and Bluetooth=
etc....
8X superdrive= pretty sure the eMac has one
PCI-Express=hope so
Standard 1GB Ram= would be nice
Standard 250GB HD= nice as well
Standard Airport and Bluetooth=
etc....
I think this means IBM hasn't been able to make the target. I would say 3Ghz in 6th Months. They have been having problems.
If they do release 2.6 G5s tomorrow then they will not release a 3Ghz at WWDC. No 3Ghz for us. If you still think they will then your going to be disappointed.
But Dual 2.6Ghz is not damn bad.
If they do release 2.6 G5s tomorrow then they will not release a 3Ghz at WWDC. No 3Ghz for us. If you still think they will then your going to be disappointed.
But Dual 2.6Ghz is not damn bad.
Does an "announcement" mean that tomorrow Apple will officially say that the 2.6 Ghz model will be released? Or will it be released tomorrow for order, and ship later on?
The reason I ask: I'm planning on getting the Dual 1.8 Ghz for the reduced price once the new model is released. Will I be able to make my order tomorrow, and have it shipped ASAP?
The reason I ask: I'm planning on getting the Dual 1.8 Ghz for the reduced price once the new model is released. Will I be able to make my order tomorrow, and have it shipped ASAP?
I remember during Macworld Steve fessing up to the xServe issues and admiting that things didn't go as planned. I see no reason that he doesn't go to WWDC and say,"Hey, we thought we were gonna get 3G chips, but we didn't. We're working on it."
Niknar said:
Agreed. I'd be satisfied with a Dual 3GHz in time for MWSF in January 2005. A Dual 2.6GHz at the high end is rather impressive for now. Lord knows that Intel sure hasn't had a 30% performance increase over the past year like this would be for Apple/IBM...
coumerelli said:
I know its kind of hard, but I really can't be bothered to sit for 2 hours to learn about mostly software updates... Not that software isn't exciting, but if Tiger, Rendezvous and iTMS Europe is the highlights then I prefer to read about the features quietly afterwards...
Great-But sad
That article from Think Secret is great news - but it is sad at the same time - only a one new model keeping the other just at a cheaper price... - The only real anti climax for me is that with waiting for Rev B G5s... my personal goal and desire was hoping for a modified interior more then the processor speed - like PCI-X, 2nd opticle bay etc... so I hope that we see the 2.0's go to iMac and a 2.2, 2.4, 2.6 line up tomorrow (all with better guts).
I also agree that to release a new TOL model tomorrow and then bump it off the moutain in 12 days would be rather poor play by Apple. I also agree that Apple will return to NOT announcing anything before it is ready and there will be no 3gig news until we all read it on the Apple Store Web site.
That article from Think Secret is great news - but it is sad at the same time - only a one new model keeping the other just at a cheaper price... - The only real anti climax for me is that with waiting for Rev B G5s... my personal goal and desire was hoping for a modified interior more then the processor speed - like PCI-X, 2nd opticle bay etc... so I hope that we see the 2.0's go to iMac and a 2.2, 2.4, 2.6 line up tomorrow (all with better guts).
I also agree that to release a new TOL model tomorrow and then bump it off the moutain in 12 days would be rather poor play by Apple. I also agree that Apple will return to NOT announcing anything before it is ready and there will be no 3gig news until we all read it on the Apple Store Web site.
robotrenegade said:
To be honest, I think Tiger is a more interesting topic than G5 upgrades. Whats the big deal about G5 upgrades. Computers get faster all the time. Its been happening for years, nothing new about it. However, Apple is currently including new and never before seen features in their new OS's. These features effect and change the way we use our computers on a daily basis. Very exciting stuff for me.
If the rumor is indeed true and they are quietly releasing Dual 2.6Ghz G5s as their top speed model... it could only mean one thing. Steve, at WWDC, will intro a workstation-class Quad 3GHz G5, dubbed PowerMac G5 Extreme... you read it here first.
iriejedi said:... so I hope that we see the 2.0's go to iMac and a 2.2, 2.4, 2.6 line up tomorrow (all with better guts).
So.... will we be able to order these tomorrow?
I don't care if its a 2.6 or a 3.0, I am buying either way. I really hope Apple's midrange model is a good value like the 1.8 was. If 2.6 is the high then I will get the 2.4! If 3.0 is the high then whatever is the rung below I will buy that! Just please Apple put a good video card in it, I want to play warcraft 3 at max graphics!