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I would love to see...

>June 7th – Airport Express with Airtunes/Security Update RELEASED
>June 8th – Power Mac G5 Upgrades} Dual 2.2/2.4/2.6GHz COMING SOON...
>June 15th – iTunes Music Store Europe/Canada Launch COMING SOON...
>June 22nd – iMac G5 Release} 15"/17"/20" widescreen, single 1.8 & 2.0GHz G5 processors COMING SOON...

This would be a very nice schedule for this month indeed! :)
 
I have heard alot about the 970fx problems. That caused the scratched update back in November. I am also hearing that the 975 Power5 based processor didn't share the same problems. That it was going to plan. If I wasn't misaken apple was going to use the 975 chip for their 3.0 Ghz G5. If we do have the Powermac G5 update tommorow and no 3.0 Ghz only at 2.6 Ghz. There is only one chance that the 3.0 Ghz would come out at WWDC. Jobs comes out and says," I know that the G5's were just updated, but I am going to keep my promise and deliver the 3.0 Ghz G5.( and he goes to present it)." Then he go says," For the people ordering the dual 2.6 Ghz, if you want to we can take it back and give you the dual 3.0 Ghz for no extra cost." If that doesn't happen expect the 3.0+ Ghz G5 in September.
 
I do not know Steve Jobs personally, BUT if they release PowerMacs tommorow or any time before WWDC, then it would seem downright stupid and insulting to customers to then release or reveal faster machines a mere couple of weeks later.

Am I mistaken? I would feel genuinely insulted if I bought a new PM and then within a month it was revealed that there was a bigger boy on the block. No updates for a year and then two within a month? That would be so terribly, utterly wrong. Just my thoughts. ;)
 
this makes perfect sense to me and is exactly what i expected.




I heard in another thread that IBM has only been able to make a chip with a 1.3 Ghz FSB, continuing the 50% proc. speed trend we've seen with the current lineup.


I say it's a good strategy to release simple proc. upgrades tomorrow and save the big announcements of G5 iMacs, Tiger, updates on IBM, iPod/iTunes/iLife updates, etc. for WWDC.

Of course the ITMS worldwide release next tuesday provides a steady stream of cool releases before the humongous ones hit our face on the 28th.
 
rareflares said:
I say it's a good strategy to release simple proc. upgrades tomorrow and save the big announcements of G5 iMacs, Tiger, updates on IBM, iPod/iTunes/iLife updates, etc. for WWDC.

Yep.

A month ago, I would have laughed in someones face if they said the G5's would be quad processors. But after seeing that pre-released instruction booklet art with the huge heatsink, I wouldnt be suprised.

Hey, I know Stevo promised 3ghz by end of summer, but I'll take a qual (or quad) 2.6

Talk about a renderbox.
 
Wonder Boy said:
if this is true and there is no 3ghz announcment tomorrow or at wwdc, there will be many many pissed customers and stock holders who counted on steve's promise of 3ghz within a year. dont give me that "he has till sept 22" bs. he said 3 in a year and thats what i expect.
If you're a stockholder in a tech company and this makes you mad - you should get out of the market!

I predict that if we get sub 3Ghz PowerMac's tomorrow, it will be accompanied by a press release talking about the IBM problems and saying somethink along the lines that now that they've been tackled, 3Ghz will take just a little longer.

Serious investors like Smith Barney, Shwab or Lynch are not prone to knee-jerk reactions. They care that the issue is being handled and that the long-erm ramifications are taken into account.

If the stock dips, it'll be because of all the small investors who bought 100 shares last year and now thinks the sky is falling because "Job's promissed him something."
 
nmk said:
To be honest, I think Tiger is a more interesting topic than G5 upgrades. Whats the big deal about G5 upgrades. Computers get faster all the time. Its been happening for years, nothing new about it. However, Apple is currently including new and never before seen features in their new OS's. These features effect and change the way we use our computers on a daily basis. Very exciting stuff for me.

Agreed. 3.0 G5s are really only v exciting for those planning on buying one when they come out - that's probably a fairly small % of the mac community...

...whereas lovely new features in the OS that will improve most mac users' experience are a lot more exciting for the rest of us...
 
I'm sure that SJ is going to show the 3.0 at this WWDC. If 3.0 is not ready yet, Steve is going to be embarassed when somebody at WWDC ask him about that model, because he promised the 3.0 Dual in the previous edition of WWDC. ;)
 
quagmire said:
There is only one chance that the 3.0 Ghz would come out at WWDC. Jobs comes out and says," I know that the G5's were just updated, but I am going to keep my promise and deliver the 3.0 Ghz G5.( and he goes to present it)." Then he go says," For the people ordering the dual 2.6 Ghz, if you want to we can take it back and give you the dual 3.0 Ghz for no extra cost." If that doesn't happen expect the 3.0+ Ghz G5 in September.

If the G5's are updated tomorrow up to Dual 2.6, then you are not going to see them reach 3 GHz at WWDC. As for Apple selling a machine, and then offering a free upgrade a month later ... No chance!
 
I was literally ready to purchase the dual 2.0 today until I saw the rumors. I've been a PC person, so at this point any mac is great for me! Do you guys think that the price the 2.0 is going for now will go down and a faster one will be released at the previous 2.0 price? Also, do you think they'll ship tommorrow?
 
Funny...WCIII that is...

I bought a $650 PC (HP PAvillion a520n) to do just that... play war craft III with everything on FULL/HIGH whatever... finished it last weekend! Worth finishing there is a surprise during the credits! (OK I wanted the DVD burner to back up gigs and gigs of digital photos.... so for $650 it was a great video game/dvd burner combo! - but I feel like I cheated on my true love Stevie Jobs by buying a PC - but hey watch the Springer show - Stevie J deserved it!)

Sorie, Your second rung purchase thoughts are the same for me! My only dissapointment is waiting 6 months with CASH in hand to save a few hundred bucks on a dual 2g tomorrow (assuming it is now second tier as TS article implied). I wanted new guts more then a speedier processor... so saddly IF there is only ONE new model and IF it is the 2.6G at the $3k price... sigh... Stevie you win... I'll buy it....the 2gig G5 should go to the referb/outdated page.... :D

Macmaniac said:
I don't care if its a 2.6 or a 3.0, I am buying either way. I really hope Apple's midrange model is a good value like the 1.8 was. If 2.6 is the high then I will get the 2.4! If 3.0 is the high then whatever is the rung below I will buy that! Just please Apple put a good video card in it, I want to play warcraft 3 at max graphics!
 
robotrenegade said:
If they have 2.6 now why in 12 more days have 3.0 come out.

Exactly, its not going to happen, if it's 2.6gig tomorrow, then Steve will definatly not mention 3gig powermacs unless to say by the end of the year, which he won't because all that will do is bring up the fact that he said 3gig this time next year.

But, it would be awsome to hear him say, I know I said 3gig, and I am sorry, but we don't have 3gig for you. Instead we have 3.4gig Quad Powermac G5 shipping in October with Tiger Pre-installed.
 
Flyers486 said:
I'd have to say that any comments dismissing the gripes of the mac community over a lack of 3ghz machines are misguided. Yes I am certain the new machines will be excellent and continue to out perform their PC breatheren, but I am also certain of specific comments from the CEO of Apple Comp. stating that 3ghz would be here by WWDC. Those machines should be here now. Any belief otherwise is simply fanboyism gone arry. The priority for us as a community is to have technological dominance, thus drawing more users to the mac marketplace. 2.6 ghz is not dominance. The promised 3ghz is dominance.

Greg

Why is 3Ghz dominance?
 
Soire said:
I do not know Steve Jobs personally, BUT if they release PowerMacs tommorow or any time before WWDC, then it would seem downright stupid and insulting to customers to then release or reveal faster machines a mere couple of weeks later.

Am I mistaken? I would feel genuinely insulted if I bought a new PM and then within a month it was revealed that there was a bigger boy on the block. No updates for a year and then two within a month? That would be so terribly, utterly wrong. Just my thoughts. ;)

I agree completely, unless there was a way to distinguish the two lines - 20th Anniversary 4 Processor Power Mac anyone ? :)
 
At first i thought 2.6 GHz tomorrow will mean no other speed bump at WWDC, as this must be to clear the way for other announcements (iMac G5 anyone?).

But after reading Think Secret again, I' m not so sure. It may be to add to the drama. Just think about it. Steve: "after introducing the 2.6 GHz two weeks ago everyone thought I was going to break my promise to you. But I'm making good on my promise. Today we introduce an insanely fast dual 3 GHz G5! By far the fastest personal computer on the planet."

So they will announce one (1) new model, the 2.6 GHZ, and put all others on sale to clear inventory? For what else than more new models? Or will we have a line-up of 1 (one!)?

And who said that the 2.8 and 3.0 models will be cheaper^H^H^H^H^H less expensive than the 2.6 GHZ?

come to think of it, judging by the size of a G5 case, I think Apple has a problem, making it both expansive and expensive.
 
gothamac said:
2.4 Single- Available Today- $1,699
2.6 Dual- Available today- $2,499
2.8 Dual- Available July- $2,999
3.0 Dual Available September- $3,499

Did you actually read the article?

Why would they sell a Dual 2.6 at that price if that's also the price they are selling the Dual 2.0 at?
 
I think a lot of people are missing the point to this. If the PowerMac G5 is updated tomorrow to 2.6GHz, then there will be no PowerMac announcement at WWDC. At the very most, Steve may say we are still looking at 3 GHz by the end of this year (I doubt this would really canabilize sales as they would be expected to update again in six months anyhow not once per year).

The only thing in the ThinkSecret story that makes no sense to me is the discounted prices of the Rev. A PowerMac G5's. If the whole like is upgraded (2.2, 2.4, 2.6GHz) and the price points stay the same (or at the most go up slightly), then the old Dual 2 GHz will cost more than whatever the new bottom model is (would you pay $2500 for a Rev. A, Dual 2 GHz, or somewhere between $1800-$2300 for a Rev. B, Dual 2.2 Ghz).

I guess will we know tomorrow. I will be checking Apple.com early and often.
 
pjkelnhofer said:
The only thing in the ThinkSecret story that makes no sense to me is the discounted prices of the Rev. A PowerMac G5's. If the whole like is upgraded (2.2, 2.4, 2.6GHz) and the price points stay the same (or at the most go up slightly), then the old Dual 2 GHz will cost more than whatever the new bottom model is (would you pay $2500 for a Rev. A, Dual 2 GHz, or somewhere between $1800-$2300 for a Rev. B, Dual 2.2 Ghz).

I guess will we know tomorrow. I will be checking Apple.com early and often.

Ram slots and PCI-X? They might still leave those off the entry level, making the Dual 2.0 more valuable in that respect.
 
pjkelnhofer said:
...The only thing in the ThinkSecret story that makes no sense to me is the discounted prices of the Rev. A PowerMac G5's. If the whole like is upgraded (2.2, 2.4, 2.6GHz) and the price points stay the same (or at the most go up slightly), then the old Dual 2 GHz will cost more than whatever the new bottom model is (would you pay $2500 for a Rev. A, Dual 2 GHz, or somewhere between $1800-$2300 for a Rev. B, Dual 2.2 Ghz).

I guess will we know tomorrow. I will be checking Apple.com early and often.

maybe the 2.2 won't be dual but a single. So 2500 for a dual 2.0 or 1800-2300 for a single 2.2? makes it more interesting to decide?
 
iHack said:
At first i thought 2.6 GHz tomorrow will mean no other speed bump at WWDC, as this must be to clear the way for other announcements (iMac G5 anyone?).

But after reading Think Secret again, I' m not so sure. It may be to add to the drama. Just think about it. Steve: "after introducing the 2.6 GHz two weeks ago everyone thought I was going to break my promise to you. But I'm making good on my promise. Today we introduce an insanely fast dual 3 GHz G5! By far the fastest personal computer on the planet."

So they will announce one (1) new model, the 2.6 GHZ, and put all others on sale to clear inventory? For what else than more new models? Or will we have a line-up of 1 (one!)?

And who said that the 2.8 and 3.0 models will be cheaper^H^H^H^H^H less expensive than the 2.6 GHZ?

come to think of it, judging by the size of a G5 case, I think Apple has a problem, making it both expansive and expensive.

I'm sorry, but you guys completely irrational. If Apple releases 2.6 ghz tomorrow, there is no way in hell that they will do ANOTHER revision 12 days later. That is absolutely the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Apple has NEVER broken up its releases like that. Why won't Apple simply wait 12 days and announce everything together?

Anyways, this talk of 3.0 ghz at WWDC is moot. Steve Jobs modified his original promise and said 3.0 ghz by the end of the summer. WWDC is NOT the end of the summer. Mid-September is. If Apple releases 2.6 ghz tomorrow, it gives Apple three months to do another revision. Steve WILL keep his promise. (Isn't he obligated by law to not make such public claims?)
 
cool

Cool.... If they do come out tomorrow screw getting an emac, ill pick up one of these :D
 
There is a lot of talk about the speed increases, but has anyone heard if there will be an update such as a superdrive that burns dual layered DVDs, like the LaCie one that is out? I thought that might be a logical option considering how Apple are positioning themselves as top quality, high end video solutions.
 
dieselg4 said:
Why is 3Ghz dominance?

3ghz is dominance because Apple would return to clockspeed parity with intel and, at the same time, have "real speeds" faster than any other chip on the market. This should be Apple's desktop priority as the majority of the marketplace (outside AMD and Apple fans) still believes clockspeed is "real speed". Those are the users Apple needs to gain market share. Expansion should be Apple's priority.
 
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