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2005 NFL Season

2nyRiggz said:
Yea you have to give to him..
looks like the Pats got this game...damn:)

Bless
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what if the weakest record going into the playoffs, at 10-6, on the afc side actually works all the games like this and threepeats?

the pats "d" really makes good offensive teams look like they are playing badly and even though no one name stands out on their team, they are a dynasty and this game is a perfect example why they are three time winners in four years

sure, they are not as exciting to watch as the triplets of dallas in the 90s or montana, lott, and rice of the 49ers in the 80s, or the steel curtain of the steelers of the 70s, but the result is the same...several superbowls in a decade
 
jefhatfield said:
what if the weakest record going into the playoffs, at 10-6, on the afc side actually works all the games like this and threepeats?
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Wouldn't be at all surprised given the injuries they had earlier in the season, which helped lead to some of those defeats, are healing at the right time, the rookies they had to blood in the secondary have more of a clue now and they are peaking at the right time. In fact, I'd almost rather they won this year than in some of the others although that's probably because they look like they are enjoying themselves more than the Colts.

I suspect I'd only be really annoyed if they pull off one of those wins from behind in the last minute where events conspire to give them a miracle field goal from 50 yards as time expires. That script is getting tired...
 
The Pats are definitely a contender, no doubt about it. But I think it will be somebody else this year. Their record doesn't reflect their capability, especially with players coming back from injuries in time to participate in the playoffs as applespider said. But there were a lot of strong teams with losing records this year.

I'm NOT a fan of Belichick though, he did jack squat for us for four seasons in Cleveland.
 
I was surprised to see NE beat up on JAX 28-3, tongiht. Home field probably didn't hurt along with 4.5 sacs from Willie McGinnist and defensive secondary reads/fake routes with resulting interceptions. They looked like a well coached team. Who is that guy Belichick? :D :p
 
xsedrinam said:
I was surprised to see NE beat up on JAX 28-3, tongiht. Home field probably didn't hurt along with 4.5 sacs from Willie McGinnist and defensive secondary reads/fake routes with resulting interceptions. They looked like a well coached team. Who is that guy Belichick? :D :p
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Jax just looked... well... disorganized. Leftwich was constantly under pressure, the Jax running game didn't seem to be there, and I just got the impression that mentally Jax weren't in the game. I was not at all impressed with how they played.

As for the Tampa Bay/Washington game: Gutsy win by Washington, but I was (again) not impressed with EITHER team's play this evening.

Assuming the Panthers can beat the Giants tomorrow (as 7 of 8 ESPN analysts have predicted), I feel good about the Panthers' chances of making it to the Super Bowl. Chicago's defense is fearsome, but their offense is pretty weak and if Carolina can stop making turnovers (which is really what cost them the game at Chicago during the regular season), they have a very good chance of beating Da Bears. And Seattle is... well, they're Seattle. Traditionally, any time they get into the playoffs, they tank.

So here's hoping for a Redskins/Panthers NFC Championship game. :)
 
Applespider said:
I suspect I'd only be really annoyed if they pull off one of those wins from behind in the last minute where events conspire to give them a miracle field goal from 50 yards as time expires. That script is getting tired...
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those events are usually directly or indirectly tied to the pat's very efficient defense

the pats win ugly and their offense does not look like the broncos with elway or miami with marino in their heyday...but they get enough points to beat a team their defense nearly shuts down so new england does not need to score many points for a win

even if the pats get four superbowls in a decade like a couple of teams in the past, they will never be remembered that well because, so far, they have never blown out an opponent in the big game
 
Boy, I'm a bit torn regarding the playoffs this year. My favorite team with the ol' school coach, the 'Skins with Gibbs, has now extracted revenge against the Bucs. Great, but now this means that they will go against my home tea, the Seahawks. People here in Seattle are going nuts over the Seahawks; and I'm happy for them, but I wish they could meet the 'Skins in the NFC championship game instead of next week. On the AFC side, I used to hate the Pats (and Boston fans in general for their whiny attitudes), but now I can't stand the thought of Peyton Manning getting to the super bowl (ex Tennessee Vol QB...yeah, we Georgia fans hold grudges). I find myself hoping for a Seahawk/Redskins vs. Steelers Super Bowl.
 
jefhatfield said:
even if the pats get four superbowls in a decade like a couple of teams in the past, they will never be remembered that well because, so far, they have never blown out an opponent in the big game
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These Pats will never be remember that well? The dynasty in the age of no-dynastys? Bill Belichick's master mind scheming and winning w/"no name" players is going to be forgotten? Besides Brady individual names might not be remembered that well, but this Pats team will be remembered w/the other great NFL dynasty teams.


Lethal
 
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Okay, what is up w/the 'Skins getting zero respect from the sports media at large for their win? The Bears D beats teams they are likened to the Monsters of the Midway. The Vikings D and special teams step up and they are credited w/helping to turn around the team's season. Washington's D plays a spectacular game and... all I hear is how bad the 'Skins O was and that TB basically gave the game away. WTF?

No love for a D whose front 4 controlled the LOS, tipped 5 passes (two leading to picks), had 2 sacks, stuffed the NFL rookie of the year for 50 yards, and got constant pressure on Simms w/o having to rely on a blitz? No love for a D that picked off the first pass of the game to set up a TD? Or ran a forced fumble back for a score? Or picked off another Simms toss in the closing seconds to seal a victory? No love for a banged up secondary missing their #1 corner (and later their best DB) cutting off the deep ball and holding TB to an average of 4.1yrds per pass? No love for a hard hitting D that was on the field for almost 35 minutes and only gave up 10pts! No love for a D that went way beyond the call of duty and basically won the game on their own.

And one guy over at SI had a line about the 'Skins "squeaking" into the playoffs. Squeaking my @ss. Washington controlled their own destiny every step of the way and won 5 straight to get into the playoffs. They didn't have to rely on getting "help" from other teams in order to get in.

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Lethal
 
Did anyone see Lavar Arrington after the game? He looked like a 8 year old on christmas morning. I guess that happens when you win your first playoff game after not even being in the playoffs your whole career.
 
Cfg5 said:
Did anyone see Lavar Arrington after the game? He looked like a 8 year old on christmas morning. I guess that happens when you win your first playoff game after not even being in the playoffs your whole career.
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For better or for worse he wears his emotions on his sleeve. I wish all the NFL players could have the love of the game that he does.


Lethal
 
LethalWolfe said:
The 'Skins getting zero respect from the sports media at large for their win? .... Washington's D plays a spectacular game and... all I hear is how bad the 'Skins O was and that TB basically gave the game away. WTF?
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Well to be fair, they usually slag off Chicago's defense as well. I agree, after reading your summary, that it seems odd but I think those 'worst offensive stats ever' were the headline for most. Brunell and co just looked completely anaemic out there... which is even more reason to give respect to the D

I really dislike the Buccs (combinations of events and various fans) and wanted the Skins to win but I was convinced the Buccs were about to start pushing the Skins around in the 4th quarter and was amazed they held on.

I suspect that the sportwriters are seeing the well-rounded team whose defense did well too (it wasn't their fault that there was such great field position on TD number 1) and actually showed some offense losing to the team with great D and no offense and showing their surprise.

The best answer would be beating Seattle next week :p
 
LethalWolfe said:
These Pats will never be remember that well? The dynasty in the age of no-dynastys? Bill Belichick's master mind scheming and winning w/"no name" players is going to be forgotten? Besides Brady individual names might not be remembered that well, but this Pats team will be remembered w/the other great NFL dynasty teams.


Lethal
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brady is a hero around my parts since he is a local boy and he will be remembered for that, but not as an equal, let's say to joe montana or steve young...but i would like to see him be on a team with a bad defense

it's like johnson with the bucs a few years ago...he's no great qb, but his defense made his goal in each game very attainable

the patriots would be downright scary if they had an explosive offense to go along with their great defense and they would be the ones this season with a 14-2 record

but i think the example of the bucs and patriots have really shown coaches and owners that one cannot ignore the defense and the saying, "good defense always beats good offense" may not be 100% percent true, but it's certainly more than 50% percent true and the statistics seem to show that

other notable defenses were the steelers, the 85 bears, 87 or 86 redskins, and perhaps (maybe) the bears of this year who some compare with the 85 bears...we will find out very soon :)
 
Jef -

I also think it might be that those teams are pretty memorable because you look at them and you say wow more often than even dynamic offensive teams ... for instance the Ravens in 2000 to add to your list. Even the Pats in '01 shutting down the greatest show on turf ...

I think my favorite memory of that superbowl was the pre-game when Jimmy Kimmel ( then analyst / comedian pre late night show / early man show) decided to pick the pats ... simply to get a few laughs and pick against everybody else ... we can only imagine if he supported that bet in vegas.

I never weighed in on last nights bucs / skins game but in my opinion the bucs lost it or lost the tie on that TD catch that the receiver didn't catch ... the throw was right there and anybody with better than average skills would have tied the game up right there. Also the buc's defense didn't allow any points in the second half ... that was key. It was a good game much better than the jags / pats ... I hope to see two more hard fought battles especially the bungles and steelers ... two young qb's
 
Kwyjibo said:
Jef -



I think my favorite memory of that superbowl was the pre-game when Jimmy Kimmel ( then analyst / comedian pre late night show / early man show) decided to pick the pats ... simply to get a few laughs and pick against everybody else ... we can only imagine if he supported that bet in vegas.
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man, i wish i put money on the pats back then :)

it is possible that there will be some player on the pats who wears five rings someday (if i really looked carefully, maybe there is someone like that, or at least with four rings...from a previous team)

charles haley (niners, cowboys) has a ring for every finger on his right, or left hand...coach siefert also has five rings, but i would like to see, player or coach/asst/other, who has the most bling

yogi has one for every finger on both hands...oops, wrong sport ;)
 
jefhatfield said:
man, i wish i put money on the pats back then :)
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I did... on the day of the game, I always stick £20 or so in a few silly bets. Occasionally the straight winner, but more often £5 or so on first to score a TD etc at silly odds.

Since I don't think anyone figured the Pats would be able to score offensively, I stuck £5 on Ty Law to score the first TD (since he was the only defensive player I recognised) which he did at 200-1 :D I'd never been so excited in my life. My poor Rams buddy was in tears and I was jumping around hysterically.

Rooting for Panthers tonight (since I don't like the Giants particularly) and probably the Bengals (which alarms me no end!) I think the second game could be a cracker... the first could end up being fairly error prone and low scoring...
 
Cfg5 said:
Wait, another Manning choking in the playoffs...no way!
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His performance today has been almost Vick-like (choose whichever Vick you like)...

People who underestimate the Panthers usually find out their mistake the hard way. :)
 
I thought the Bucs/Skins game, while low scoring, was pretty good.

Pitt/Cincy- This game is either gonna come down to the last play or the Steelers will blow them out, the Bengals won't run away with this one.
 
Cfg5 said:
Pitt/Cincy- This game is either gonna come down to the last play or the Steelers will blow them out, the Bengals won't run away with this one.
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Interesting... I think it will come down to the last play or the Bengals will blow them out but the Steelers won't run away with this one.. ;) I guess we'll see who is right in a few hours...
 
Applespider said:
Interesting... I think it will come down to the last play or the Bengals will blow them out but the Steelers won't run away with this one.. ;) I guess we'll see who is right in a few hours...
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You wanna change your prediction?:rolleyes:

That sucks for the Bengals though.
 
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