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They couldn't get rid of the Yellow or Blue, that is the corporate colours of Renault.

I suppose the 'team' orders issue with Ferrari has been more obvious that with McLaren and Renault as neither of the teams have had two drivers capable of fighting. Renault had Fissi who sulked all year and McLaren had Jaun Pablo (lets play tennis on a motorbike) Montoya so they where bound to get behind the No. 1. Or the other assumption was that each driver got different cars?

On the two occasions Massa beat Schui to a race win last year in one event Schui was being blocked by Alonso and at the other Schui was far behind and had a flat! In Turkey Massa was genuinely faster than Schui, but so was Rubens at some races.
 
The one I have been waiting for:

It is finally here, the one I have been waiting for:
Honda RA107
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This is yet another big year for Honda. They need to continue the form of the 2nd half of the season and at least win 2-3 races and be in the top 6 at least at all the other races. From the look of the car (which isn't very easy to tell in black) they have taken a lot of sculpting around the back of the car and they have a very small gbx again. Also the front wing has curved supports, rather than the old style straight drops. Hopefully this will be a good car and the new wind-tunnel will start to take effect.
 
It is finally here, the one I have been waiting for:
Honda RA107
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This is yet another big year for Honda. They need to continue the form of the 2nd half of the season and at least win 2-3 races and be in the top 6 at least at all the other races. From the look of the car (which isn't very easy to tell in black) they have taken a lot of sculpting around the back of the car and they have a very small gbx again. Also the front wing has curved supports, rather than the old style straight drops. Hopefully this will be a good car and the new wind-tunnel will start to take effect.

that honda looks sweet.. nice n simple!!! shaded with raybans :p
 
The black looks great. They havn't used it for a couple of years. The 078 (last years interim car) was Honda white (cream) and red. This one is so much better. Reminds me of the Sauber around 1994 in the black finish.

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I love those uncluttered pre-launch liveries, and that Honda looks better even than McLaren's orange black from last season.

Too bad nobody can afford to run without all the sponsorship.
 
I love those uncluttered pre-launch liveries, and that Honda looks better even than McLaren's orange black from last season.

McLaren's use of orange was a nod to the old McLaren CanAm cars.

Not sure how good an idea black is for an F1 car though, that judging by the derth of wet races and the excessive amount number of gloriously sunny ones we've had over the last few seasons, I'd imagine excessive heat being a bit of a liability, or at least it cannot help matters.
 
just found this thread (a little late)....


I'm really looking forward to this season - so many changes (no schumacher, finally!) and so many unknowns, i think that it will be an exciting season.

I'm not familiar with McLaren's second driver Lewis Hamilton, nor Renault's second driver Heikki Kovalainen, so i'm interested to see how they perform. I'm still waiting for Webber to do something.

I've always liked Raikkonen, but mostly because he was driving for McLaren, So i may be looking for Alonso a lot more this year! I just hope that McLaren can maintain a better reliabiity this year. I do like the new colour scheme though.

It still seems like it may be a 3 team competition again, hopefully Honda, BMW etc. will give everyone a run for their money.
 
I hope we don't see too much of this this year:

Hamilton Smash

I saw Hamilton at Silverstone last year and he was amazing. The GP2 was better than the F1 in terms of racing. Some drivers have said that the new tires will aid overtaking and I sure hope they do. As long as he can keep it on the black stuff.
 
Yeah, not a good start for the young lad.

However, I can not wait for Kimi in the Ferrari. That is just going to be the greatest thing ever. As long as they adapt the car to go with his much more aggressive driving style he'll wrap the championship up this year, no problem.
 
Yeah, not a good start for the young lad.

However, I can not wait for Kimi in the Ferrari. That is just going to be the greatest thing ever. As long as they adapt the car to go with his much more aggressive driving style he'll wrap the championship up this year, no problem.

I agree 100%. Kimi will be No. 1 in that team and he will get all the backing. Massa is not a Ferrari to win the championship. If he doesn't thrash it to death first but I don't think he is a bad as a lot of people make him out to be.
 
I agree 100%. Kimi will be No. 1 in that team and he will get all the backing. Massa is not a Ferrari to win the championship. If he doesn't thrash it to death first but I don't think he is a bad as a lot of people make him out to be.

I must admit, I was very surprised with how well Massa did last year, really was. I thought it would only be a stop gap however and this year we would get Kimi Plus One, but give him his due he obviously did enough (In the eyes of Ferrari, who at the end of the day, know better than all of us put together.) to keep his place.

I've been a hugeeeeeeeeee Kimi fan for a few years now (Used to watch him in Formula Renault) and I've been disappointed with McLaren, because that was a quick quick car, just not with the reliability the team and Kimi deserved. Now with Adrian Newey at Red Bull I have to say, I dont think its going to be a strong couple of years for McLaren and I'm very, very surprised Alonso went, TBH. But, we'll see.
 
How will the switch to Bridgestone affect the teams that used to use Michelin?
It's a shame to limit the sport to a single tyre.
 
The problem with McLaren is that they are very arrogant. They have the 'it is our right to win' mentality and that gets up the noses of some people.

I think the single tyre manufacturer rule is the best thing that has happened to Formula One for a long time. The problem before what that some teams had the tyre designed around their car (cough Renualt cough) and others had to design their car around the tyre so they had to compromise. From what I can gather the new Bridgestone is very hard compared to last years tyre so it is not a huge bonus, only in terms of knowledge of personnel within each company.
 
I think the single tyre manufacturer rule is the best thing that has happened to Formula One for a long time. The problem before what that some teams had the tyre designed around their car (cough Renualt cough) and others had to design their car around the tyre so they had to compromise. From what I can gather the new Bridgestone is very hard compared to last years tyre so it is not a huge bonus, only in terms of knowledge of personnel within each company.

I would have to go as far as disagreeing. I can fully see and understand your point but I think it adds a bit more lee-way into the sport. Its the same as limiting the spending of the bigger teams, why? Why should we slow the sport down so the smaller teams can catch up? Yep... Really good way to take the sport forward. :rolleyes:
 
I would have to go as far as disagreeing. I can fully see and understand your point but I think it adds a bit more lee-way into the sport. Its the same as limiting the spending of the bigger teams, why? Why should we slow the sport down so the smaller teams can catch up? Yep... Really good way to take the sport forward. :rolleyes:

But it isnt slowing the cars down too much. Maybe be 2 - 3 seconds but not too much. The quick cars will still be quick, the slow cars will still be slow. Do you really think the Michelin would have wanted McLaren with a German engine to beat Renault?

This will make 2007 a lot fairer to the teams and reward good designs and teams who work with Bridgestone in a constructive manor, not teams that have to put up with whatever Renault or Ferrari used in the past.
 
I agree 100%. Kimi will be No. 1 in that team and he will get all the backing. Massa is not a Ferrari to win the championship. If he doesn't thrash it to death first but I don't think he is a bad as a lot of people make him out to be.

Michael was rather aggressive, and we all though how unbeatably reliable the Ferrari was.
 
What was the driving force behind the tyre thing - did Michelin pull out, were they forced out? Was it a push to have one manufacturer and Michelin lost the bid?

Given how essential tyre choice is, i'd still rather the teams have a choice of manufacturer.
 
What was the driving force behind the tyre thing - did Michelin pull out, were they forced out? Was it a push to have one manufacturer and Michelin lost the bid?

Given how essential tyre choice is, i'd still rather the teams have a choice of manufacturer.

The FIA said that they only wanted 1 tyre manufacturer and Michelin spat their dummy out first.

In defence of a single tyre manufacturer we have:

  • Indy 2005. If there was only 1 tyre manufacturer that would never had happened as there is not need to pust the tyre past the safety limit.
  • Budapest 2003. Think it was 2003 anyway. Bridgestone made a cock-up on tyre choice and the two Ferraris struggled to get into the points. People said it was great but I want to see the top teams and drivers battle it out.
  • General safety. Manufacturers won't push the limit as much and it will add more skill to the drivers, surely this is what people have been calling out for for years?
 
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