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Ah, it's a great site that – normally my first stop when my Jaffatar™ needs a new kit doing for a special occasion. ;)
I love that site, especially on the County page where it shows us suddenly ditching our pale blue and white vertical stripe kit for some reason in April 1982 :D
 
I love that site, especially on the County page where it shows us suddenly ditching our pale blue and white vertical stripe kit for some reason in April 1982 :D
Hmm... it seems in 1958 you were sporting a kit practically identical to ours, albeit for only one game. Maybe my Jaffatar™ is a closet County fan? :p

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What was going on in 1993/1994?
Lots of teams had little *ahem* blips around that time. :D
 
Hmm... it seems in 1958 you were sporting a kit practically identical to ours, albeit for only one game. Maybe my Jaffatar™ is a closet County fan? :p
Well, considering we won that game 4-2 maybe we should have stuck with it a little longer. Might even have been promoted out of Division 3 North that year :)
 
I must confess I've not yet seen the new Wednesday home shirt – I'm right in thinking though that the away shirt is a white affair as opposed to last season's orange?

off white at that. very poor offering. loved the ornge. so much so that i own one. ;)

and very cool link by the by.. ;)
 
Beautiful. Absolutely beautiful. Unveiled today, available from tomorrow. Ace. :cool:

Looks nice. It seems there's gonna be a good few kits this season. I'm pleased with the return of the white band, and our new signings seem young and capable!

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So what is the deal with Mike Ashley and Newcastle? Is he really going to bugger off? It looks like the Americans weren't interested in Newcastle but the offer was made...by someone.

After what happened with Hicks and Gillette at Liverpool, I think owners should be banned from wearing a jersey/scarf until 5 years have passed. It's quite funny to see owners wearing jerseys and scarves and then either running the club into the ground or selling out quickly. I know football is a business first and foremost but ownership of a club is by no means equivalent to being a supporter.

With the domestic economy so weak I don't understand why any US investment company would be buying in Europe anyway.

EDIT: I see that Pompey are now offering 10 million pounds for Crouch. Rafa should take it, I can't see him selling for more.
 

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So what is the deal with Mike Ashley and Newcastle? Is he really going to bugger off? It looks like the Americans weren't interested in Newcastle but the offer was made...by someone.

After what happened with Hicks and Gillette at Liverpool, I think owners should be banned from wearing a jersey/scarf until 5 years have passed. It's quite funny to see owners wearing jerseys and scarves and then either running the club into the ground or selling out quickly. I know football is a business first and foremost but ownership of a club is by no means equivalent to being a supporter.

With the domestic economy so weak I don't understand why any US investment company would be buying in Europe anyway.

EDIT: I see that Pompey are now offering 10 million pounds for Crouch. Rafa should take it, I can't see him selling for more.

I honestly think this is the start of the end of the Premier League being a financial investment. Realistically, the big money is in the Champions League, and with the big four dominating it, its just not possible to make the kind of returns you'd expect with a club outside of them.
 
I was thinking. Why doesn't UEFA award the UEFA Cup winners a place in the next year's Champions League?
Don't give them ideas! I'm firmly of the mindset that the Champions league should be open to champions only – none of this fourth place team qualifying rubbish. I'd open it up to the holders getting an entry too, but that's as far as I'd go.

And MOFS – nice to see the band is back on the Boro shirts, it's a distinctive feature that sets you apart from other red-shirted types. It's hard to tell from the picture you posted but that looks a decent offering – what's going on with the neck though? is he wearing a t-shirt under there or does the new jersey have that big white bit on it?
 
Don't give them ideas! I'm firmly of the mindset that the Champions league should be open to champions only – none of this fourth place team qualifying rubbish. I'd open it up to the holders getting an entry too, but that's as far as I'd go.

And MOFS – nice to see the band is back on the Boro shirts, it's a distinctive feature that sets you apart from other red-shirted types. It's hard to tell from the picture you posted but that looks a decent offering – what's going on with the neck though? is he wearing a t-shirt under there or does the new jersey have that big white bit on it?

Well, at least the UEFA Cup winners would have won something the previous year (unlike the 4th placed team). Plus, it would make the UEFA Cup relevant again.
 
Well, at least the UEFA Cup winners would have won something the previous year (unlike the 4th placed team). Plus, it would make the UEFA Cup relevant again.

But the UEFA Cup winners could be Spurs, or Middlesborough or someone (no disrespect to Middlesborough). Why should they get a place in the Champions League above superior teams which finish above them in the League every year? It devalues the competition.
 
Don't give them ideas! I'm firmly of the mindset that the Champions league should be open to champions only – none of this fourth place team qualifying rubbish. I'd open it up to the holders getting an entry too, but that's as far as I'd go.

The problem there is that if you eliminate the runner-up teams from Italy, Spain, England and Germany (and to a lesser extent Holland, Portugal and France) who replaces them? Domestic championship sides from eastern Europe who are just not good enough to compete with the league winners and runners up from England, Germany, Italy and Spain. The quality of the tournament suffers if, say, a 3rd placed Arsenal miss out while Lechia Gdańsk get in since they won their domestic league.

Forcing only league winners to play is perhaps more in line with the spirit of the Champions league but I think it might actually hurt the competition by removing many of the better sides.
 
But the UEFA Cup winners could be Spurs, or Middlesborough or someone (no disrespect to Middlesborough). Why should they get a place in the Champions League above superior teams which finish above them in the League every year? It devalues the competition.

The winners of the UEFA Cup would not count towards a countries 4 team limit in my world (neither would the defending Champions League winners)
Also, start the UEFA cup winners in the qualifying rounds of the CL, if they aren't very good they'll soon be eliminated.

The problem there is that if you eliminate the runner-up teams from Italy, Spain, England and Germany (and to a lesser extent Holland, Portugal and France) who replaces them? Domestic championship sides from eastern Europe who are just not good enough to compete with the league winners and runners up from England, Germany, Italy and Spain. The quality of the tournament suffers if, say, a 3rd placed Arsenal miss out while Lechia Gdańsk get in since they won their domestic league.

Forcing only league winners to play is perhaps more in line with the spirit of the Champions league but I think it might actually hurt the competition by removing many of the better sides.

How about this? Winning your domestic league gives you entry to the CL for the next 5 years. Thus, all teams in the CL will have won their own domestic league at some point in the previous 5 years. At least then you can say that all teams in the CL have been recent 'champions'.

Also, the clubs don't care about the 'quality of competition' they care about money. The big boys want multiple teams per country so they can all have access to the megabucks.
 
But the UEFA Cup winners could be Spurs, or Middlesborough or someone (no disrespect to Middlesborough). Why should they get a place in the Champions League above superior teams which finish above them in the League every year?
If the rules state that a team who wins a certain competition earns qualification to another, then the size of the club or its place in the pecking order is irrelevant.

If you argue that the risk of a 'lesser' team earning that spot is too great, then you could reasonably ask why should the FA Cup carry a UEFA Cup place? After all, Portsmouth qualified for Europe as the Cup winners last season, while Blackburn who finished a place above them in the league (and are thus 'superior') miss out, while Aston Villa (two places above Portsmouth) have to go through the Intertoto Cup to try and earn a stab at the UEFA Cup.

Of course, hand-in-hand with this goes the reason why the FA Cup winners (or similar competitions in other countries) will never get a Champions League place – there's too much risk of a team outside of the select few getting in there. Imagine if Portsmouth had qualified last season and taken fourth-placed Liverpool's spot, or – even worse – a non-Premier League team won the Cup and took the place of one of the 'big four'!

The Champions League is too much of a cash cow for Europe's elite clubs, there's no way they'd allow 'lesser' teams to get their snouts in the trough if they can help it – be it through domestic cup competition or the UEFA Cup.

It devalues the competition.
I think as a competition it was devalued long ago, unfortunately.
 
The Champions League is too much of a cash cow for Europe's elite clubs, there's no way they'd allow 'lesser' teams to get their snouts in the trough if they can help it – be it through domestic cup competition or the UEFA Cup.

Exactly. People keep going on about forming a European Super League, but that is essentially what we've got. I haven't done the analysis, but I bet the percentage of clubs that are in the CL year after year is quite high (very little turnover).
 
The problem there is that if you eliminate the runner-up teams from Italy, Spain, England and Germany (and to a lesser extent Holland, Portugal and France) who replaces them? Domestic championship sides from eastern Europe who are just not good enough to compete with the league winners and runners up from England, Germany, Italy and Spain. The quality of the tournament suffers if, say, a 3rd placed Arsenal miss out while Lechia Gdańsk get in since they won their domestic league.

Forcing only league winners to play is perhaps more in line with the spirit of the Champions league but I think it might actually hurt the competition by removing many of the better sides.
Indeed, I would replace the various runners-up with the various domestic champions.

One potential advantage could be that the vast sums of money that the Champions League clubs earn would be spread around the various leagues more rather than being dominated by the big leagues – over time, the extra finance may help improve the quality of the lesser leagues.

I think that such a move would also help add a bit of prestige to the UEFA Cup, as 'better' teams would be playing in this competition rather than the Champions League.

As we all know though, such things will never happen – the power in UEFA lies with the big clubs, and they're more than happy to carry on feathering their nests with the Champions League.
 
As we all know though, such things will never happen – the power in UEFA lies with the big clubs, and they're more than happy to carry on feathering their nests with the Champions League.

Good points, and I think you're right - as long as the powerhouse clubs want to be there they will find ways to stay. The amount of money being bounced around is simply too much to let go of.
 
So what is the deal with Mike Ashley and Newcastle? Is he really going to bugger off? It looks like the Americans weren't interested in Newcastle but the offer was made...by someone.

the general feeling it’s a media backlash – Mike Ashley has being doing lots of things with the club that contradict the media stories that he is selling. He’s been investing heavily in Academy players, coaches, and facilities to bear fruit in 3-5 years. As well as dramatically reducing season ticket prices to younger fans, shifting some of the highest paying corporate boxes out as he wants them for his family and friends. Not the signals of a man wanting a quick sale.

Since the previous owners, the Shepherds and other slack mouthed ‘insiders’ have been kicked out, and even the ‘media whore’ Kevin Keegan has been told to zip it, the media have been really agitated and repeatedly run disruptive articles as a response. To put it in perspective the local rags have seen their sales take a huge nosedive since the new NUFC media policy – and in response stories say Mike Ashley is selling to the Bin Ladens, hahahaha!

That said, if someone comes in with a £200m profit Mike Ashley would probably sell up, who wouldn’t.

Still however the owner tries to stop the circus atmosphere of the club, out comes Joey Barton soon.........
 
Still however the owner tries to stop the circus atmosphere of the club, out comes Joey Barton soon.........

Newcastle fans need to hope they get rid of him ASAP. Nothing good will come of retaining his "services". He should never set foot on a pitch again as far as I'm concerned.
 
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