2008/9 COLLEGE Football Thread
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scotty96LSC
macrumors 65816
This 28-24 loss really hurts. Miami had the Tar Heels and then took the foot off the gas. Poor coaching? Perhaps. Too Cocky? More likely.
This loss will hopefully server as a lesson and a wake-up call for the rest of the season.
This loss will hopefully server as a lesson and a wake-up call for the rest of the season.
GfPQqmcRKUvP
macrumors 68040
Florida falls 
donga
macrumors 6502a
that's stupid, it's a pac 10 match up. that's like saying to ole miss: leave the sec, florida doesn't want you on the schedule any more.
majordude
macrumors 68020
Florida falls
Wow, I can't believe I spent most of my life watching the NFL and never gave NCAA the time of day. This stuff is awesome!
#1 down, #4 down, #9 down, #16 down, #23 down... in just one day!
#3's next!
("They call Alabama the Crimson Tide, call me Deacon Blues." — Steely Dan)
donga
macrumors 6502a
Wow, I can't believe I spent most of my life watching the NFL and never gave NCAA the time of day. This stuff is awesome!
#1 down, #4 down, #9 down, #16 down, #23 down... in just one day!
#3's next!
can you say parity?
i think the beautiful thing about college sports is that most of them take pride in their school. more so than say pro sports
bbotte
macrumors 65816
IF the Dawgs take care of business against Alabama they should keep pace with Oklahoma and not fall this week after a win again.
How's that working out for you? 31-0 and all.......
Woof Woof er I mean Yipe! Yipe! Yipe! Yipe!
GfPQqmcRKUvP
macrumors 68040
Georgia falls
USC is going to smell the blood, bad sign for other schools
USC is going to smell the blood, bad sign for other schools
MacDawg
Moderator emeritus
Said all along this was the game that worried me most
I was not surprised the Dawgs fell this week
I did not like the match-ups on the line of scrimmage
Congrats to the Tide, it was over on the first drive
Kudos to Ole Miss too, they never gave up against the Gators
As far as needing a playoff in College... every week is a playoff
I'd like to see it, but there is nothing like the banter every week in College ball
Woof, Woof - Dawg
I was not surprised the Dawgs fell this week
I did not like the match-ups on the line of scrimmage
Congrats to the Tide, it was over on the first drive
Kudos to Ole Miss too, they never gave up against the Gators
As far as needing a playoff in College... every week is a playoff
I'd like to see it, but there is nothing like the banter every week in College ball
Woof, Woof - Dawg
CorvusCamenarum
macrumors 65816
Said all along this was the game that worried me most
I was not surprised the Dawgs fell this week
I did not like the match-ups on the line of scrimmage
Congrats to the Tide, it was over on the first drive
Kudos to Ole Miss too, they never gave up against the Gators
As far as needing a playoff in College... every week is a playoff
I'd like to see it, but there is nothing like the banter every week in College ball
Woof, Woof - Dawg
I think Saban is going to be having a few choice words with the special teams this week.
That punt return in the 4th quarter should have come back though - there was an obvious block in the back that the officials missed; even the commentators were talking about it.
I predict UA and Vanderbilt playing for the SEC title. I'll probably never say that again.
Cave Man
macrumors 604
No it isn't, because if it were, there would only be one team left at the end of the season, and that team would be the champion. Champions should be determined on the field, not by reporters, coaches and computers.
MacDawg
Moderator emeritus
I think Saban is going to be having a few choice words with the special teams this week.
That punt return in the 4th quarter should have come back though - there was an obvious block in the back that the officials missed; even the commentators were talking about it.
I predict UA and Vanderbilt playing for the SEC title. I'll probably never say that again.
Not a chance that Vandy navigates the schedule... they will have to play Tennessee, Georgia and Florida before it is over. They have played well early in the season before, but the grind of the SEC always separates the wheat from the chaff.
Perhaps the officials missed the call... but that goes both ways. The bottom line, the Dawgs got their butt whipped and I was expecting it this time... but play the game 10 times and it would probably be even. Props to the Tide, but there is a lot of ball left and you have to prove you can beat LSU and Auburn too, as well as Mississippi State
Who gets in? The Top 4? The Top 8?
Oregon State was unranked and knocked off #1
Ole Miss was unranked and knocked off #4
Conference Champs only?
Georgia didn't even win the East last year, but nobody wanted to play them
Any team is capable of winning any Saturday, even in a championship game
The BCS is far from perfect, but what separates College ball from all the rest is the speculation, the banter, the snubs, the polls... and the importance of every Saturday. If you lose in week 5 of the NFL, who cares? In College it matters... every game matters. Ask Clemson how week 1 ruined their year.
I am not opposed to a playoff, but I don't think there is a perfect scenario to it at all.
Woof, Woof - Dawg
majordude
macrumors 68020
What sport are you watching? Every year there is a championship game and one team wins.
Every week IS a playoff like someone else said. Win every week and you go to the championship game. Lose and go to the back of the line or get resorted based on who you've played.
Pro isn't any more fair, you have just been tricked into thinking it's more fair.
For the past decade the Dolphins have sucked, the Bills have sucked and the Jets have sucked. Since everyone in the division plays each other twice, the Pats get a free "6-0" schedule. That's like USC versus the Pack 01.
The NFC East has the Skins, Giants, Cowboys and Eagles. That's the SEC of the NFL.
When the Pats went up against the best of the SEC last year in the Rose Bowl, they were shown to be overrated even though they had a better record.
Plus, with pros, it is even MORE unfair. The Giants didn't win their conference so they had to play an extra game. The Pats didn't have to play the "wild card" round.
That's fair? The Pats get an easier schedule plus a week off?! Sounds like the system is rigged to let certain teams have an easier path to the championship game.
College is better than pro because every week counts. In pro, you can go 10-6 and win the championship because 1/3rd of your season is meaningless! Why? Because they have a rigged playoff system that makes weekly games meaningless.
Mike Teezie
macrumors 68020
I think Saban is going to be having a few choice words with the special teams this week.
That punt return in the 4th quarter should have come back though - there was an obvious block in the back that the officials missed; even the commentators were talking about it.
I predict UA and Vanderbilt playing for the SEC title. I'll probably never say that again.
Great game, go Bama! I turned it on around the end of the first quarter, and was blown away that UA was laying it on GA like that.
Even though I live in Louisiana, I'm not a huge LSU fan. I like them, I just really enjoy all of the SEC, with the exception of Florida. I'm also a big Saban fan. I'll be rooting for another SEC Championship winner this year, whoever it may be.
Oh yeah, mark my words - USC will drop another game.
Cave Man
macrumors 604
Nope, use RPI rankings at the end of the season and then evaluation by an independent selection committee (as with basketball). Get the top 16 teams and you have a high statistical probability that the best team is in that group. You have four rounds that determine the champions. But the BCS conferences won't like that because they'll lose lots of money from the one game (e.g., SEC and Big 12 championship games) they'd have to give up to get it all done before the second week of January.
No, the BCS is worthless if its goal is to determine the best team in college football. With it, there is no chance of two teams from the same conference playing in the championship game.
That may be, but it's still inherently unfair to other teams. You will never see a non-BCS team in the championship game the way it is currently set up because of their conference weaknesses (real or perceived).
But it would be far better than the status quo.
Based upon completely subjective evaluations and restricted to members of six conferences only.
But at least they have to play the best of the best (e.g., look at the weakness of the Big Ten, yet they seem to be up there every year).
Yes, because they settled it on the field. If there's no Darwinian process involved, then you'll never know who really is the best.
echeck
macrumors 68000
The Sooners take the top spot, which isn't unexpected. 'Bama, LSU, Missouri and Texas round out the top five.
USC drops to #9, but what surprises me is that Georgia falls to #11! I don't think USC should be above Georgia. At least the Dawgs fell to a highly ranked team.
BYU jumps to #8 off of a bye week. The Cougars look pretty hot, and barring any major meltdown I think they're going to break the top five before the end of the season.
My Boise State Broncos moved up two spots on a bye week, which is always nice.
USC drops to #9, but what surprises me is that Georgia falls to #11! I don't think USC should be above Georgia. At least the Dawgs fell to a highly ranked team.
BYU jumps to #8 off of a bye week. The Cougars look pretty hot, and barring any major meltdown I think they're going to break the top five before the end of the season.
My Boise State Broncos moved up two spots on a bye week, which is always nice.
MacDawg
Moderator emeritus
So, it is YOUR computer evalutation and YOUR human selection element that you favor... I see
Too many games to be practical at all... this is football, not basketball... we already have conferences championship games. And yet again, I say... Oregon State was an unranked team (not Top 25 much less Top 16) and they knocked off #1, so why stop at 16? Why not 64(5) like basketball since you favor that analogy?
Because they should play in their conference championship game... get the Pac 10 and Big 10 and the Big East on board with that like the SEC, ACC and Big 12.
Do you REALLY believe a non-BCS team deserves to be in the championship game? Really?? Like an undefeated Hawaii team last year?
Ha! Ha! Ha!
Woof, Woof - Dawg
echeck
macrumors 68000
Everyone keeps using Hawaii as an example of how bad non-BCS schools are, but I think that's an unfair example.
What about Utah and Boise State, or BYU this year?
In no way am I agreeing with Cave Man, but to allude that a non-BCS school should ever be in a Championship Game is a little blind.
furcalchick
macrumors 68020
i think the bcs polls should stay in a playoff to determine seedings and such.
div. 1-aa and 2 and 3 all have 16 team playoffs and that's not too many games. and don't say 'kids need to take their finals' excuse. these playoffs are taking place during finals week, and in the ncaa basketball tourney, some schools are in finals during the tourney (the ones on quarter systems, most notably ucla and ohio st.). there is no real excuse of why there is no playoff in d1-a football, expect that the bowl games are worried about tradition being broken (and i think bowls are now cheapened because we have like double the amount we had 15 years ago and almost everyone with at least 6 wins goes to one now).
expect they can't. you need at least 12 teams in the conference to have a conference championship game.
Cave Man
macrumors 604
The current system gets it to two teams and it often produces blowouts in the championship game (ala Ohio State). My system (not really mine, but what others have proposed) gets it to 16 teams, which then settle it on the field. The selection committee's task for hoops is to select 65 teams with the best team somewhere in that field. The same standard should be for football as well, but considering the limited number of games, 16 seems reasonable. The odds that you select the best team from a pool of 16 is orders of magnitude more statistically sound than picking two teams.
It works for all other NCAA and NAIA divisions. Why can't it work for DI-A? (Hint: money). Heck, it even works for high school.
Still won't allow you to select a pool of best teams to settle it on the field. Personally, I think Georgia would have beat LSU if they had played in the championship game last year. But the two best teams didn't play for the championship - it was one contender and one pretender. And it took some major poll shenanigans to get LSU in the championship game anyway. Last year was a dirty, filthy selection for the championship, and it was disgusting. At least four teams were good enough to be champions.
Like North Carolina State, Villanova or Kansas 1988 in NCAA hoops? That's the problem with NCAA football, Cinderella's not allowed to dance.