2008 Formula One Thread

[pachyderm]

1. Pos No Driver Team Q1 Q2 Q3 Laps
   1 22 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:26.572 1:25.187 1:26.714 14
   2 4 Robert Kubica BMW 1:26.103 1:25.315 1:26.869 15
   3 23 Heikki Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes 1:25.664 1:25.452 1:27.079 13
   4 2 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:25.994 1:25.691 1:27.178 12
   5 3 Nick Heidfeld BMW 1:25.960 1:25.518 1:27.236 16
   6 11 Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:26.427 1:26.101 1:28.527 17
   7 7 Nico Rosberg Williams-Toyota 1:26.295 1:26.059 1:28.687 21
   8 9 David Coulthard Red Bull-Renault 1:26.381 1:26.063 1:29.041 18
   **9 12 Timo Glock Toyota 1:26.919 1:26.164 1:29.593 17
   10 15 Sebastian Vettel STR-Ferrari 1:26.702 1:25.842 No time 18
   11 17 Rubens Barrichello Honda 1:26.369 1:26.173 13
   12 5 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:26.907 1:26.188 10
   13 16 Jenson Button Honda 1:26.712 1:26.259 13
   14 8 Kazuki Nakajima Williams-Toyota 1:26.891 1:26.413 13
   15 10 Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1:26.914 No time 8
   16 1 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 1:26.140 3
   17 21 Giancarlo Fisichella Force India-Ferrari 1:27.207 9
   18 14 Sebastien Bourdais STR-Ferrari 1:27.446 10
   19 20 Adrian Sutil Force India-Ferrari 1:27.859 9
   20 18 Takuma Sato Super Aguri-Honda 1:28.208 9
   21 6 Nelsinho Piquet Renault 1:28.330 6
   22 19 Anthony Davidson Super Aguri-Honda 1:29.059 9
   
   ** = glock will start 19th...

Jarno Trulli, Toyota (6th, Q3 - 1m 28.527s):
“Sixth place is a good start to the season so the result is satisfying. But it was quite a difficult qualifying session and I’m still not completely happy with the set-up because I wasn’t able to get the most out of my lap. We’ve also been struggling more than we expected with the tyres here. So I feel there is more potential to come. Our race package is good so I am positive and optimistic for tomorrow. I just hope we can do a good race. Our long runs have been strong with this car during testing so I’ll cross my fingers. I’m really fired up for the season and confident that we can get some strong results.”

 

[MOFS]

1. Pos No Driver Team Q1 Q2 Q3 Laps
   1 22 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:26.572 1:25.187 1:26.714 14
   2 4 Robert Kubica BMW 1:26.103 1:25.315 1:26.869 15
   3 23 Heikki Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes 1:25.664 1:25.452 1:27.079 13
   4 2 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:25.994 1:25.691 1:27.178 12
   5 3 Nick Heidfeld BMW 1:25.960 1:25.518 1:27.236 16
   6 11 Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:26.427 1:26.101 1:28.527 17
   7 7 Nico Rosberg Williams-Toyota 1:26.295 1:26.059 1:28.687 21
   8 9 David Coulthard Red Bull-Renault 1:26.381 1:26.063 1:29.041 18
   **9 12 Timo Glock Toyota 1:26.919 1:26.164 1:29.593 17
   10 15 Sebastian Vettel STR-Ferrari 1:26.702 1:25.842 No time 18
   11 17 Rubens Barrichello Honda 1:26.369 1:26.173 13
   12 5 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:26.907 1:26.188 10
   13 16 Jenson Button Honda 1:26.712 1:26.259 13
   14 8 Kazuki Nakajima Williams-Toyota 1:26.891 1:26.413 13
   15 10 Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1:26.914 No time 8
   16 1 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 1:26.140 3
   17 21 Giancarlo Fisichella Force India-Ferrari 1:27.207 9
   18 14 Sebastien Bourdais STR-Ferrari 1:27.446 10
   19 20 Adrian Sutil Force India-Ferrari 1:27.859 9
   20 18 Takuma Sato Super Aguri-Honda 1:28.208 9
   21 6 Nelsinho Piquet Renault 1:28.330 6
   22 19 Anthony Davidson Super Aguri-Honda 1:29.059 9
   
   ** = glock will start 19th...

Interesting grid. Did Bourdais have a problem - for a driver who did so well in the US to be over a second down Vettel's slowest is astounding. Piquet Jr also seems to have done poorly. Looks like a Mclaren win for me - BMW don't seem to optimistic about this season.

 

[pachyderm]

from what i'm hearing piquet is nothing special. bourdais, i think, with time will improve.

 

[Brianstorm91]

Can't stand F1 but

all the way!

 

[xUKHCx]

Any UK members up and about (or any members where it is an unsociable hour).

I wanted to see if the itv.com stream would not have adverts but currently it doesn't support Mac OS X so that idea is out

 

[xUKHCx]

Well that was an interesting start to the first grand prix of the season. Poor Mark Webber, shame to go out at your home track, especially so early.

 

[R.Youden]

Hell yeah I am up!

I managed to get the ITV stream to work for the free practice session but it was so choppy. I will try and find the link.

Kimi is stuck behind that Honda, not something you would have expected a few weeks ago. Honda really have pulled one out of the bag at Jerez.

Unfortunately it looks like a Hamilton walk in the park so yet more garbage from the UK press.

 

[R.Youden]

Well that was a good race. Bit boring up front, but if every race is like that it will be a great season.

Felt sorry for Bourdais, he had a great race. It is silly that they call him a rookie, he has more world championships that the rest of the F1 grid combined!

What where Ferrari doing though! They did almost everything they could to throw that race away, and in all fairness, they did a damn good job. Hopefully they will get it all sorted by next weekend, anyone got Ross Brawns phone number?

 

[xUKHCx]

Hell yeah I am up!

Unfortunately it looks like a Hamilton walk in the park so yet more garbage from the UK press.

I imagined you'd be up, did you stay up or get up. I stayed up.

It was a good race by Hamilton and a shocking one by Raikkonen so many errors all over the place.

Seems like the Ferrari engines didn't like the conditions of this race.

Very eventful race and a good start to the season. Only 7 finishers.

 

[R.Youden]

I got up to watch it. I like my sleep!

And now we have mark Brundell talking utter garbage, Lewis Hamilton, the drive of a World Champion! Sorry but I thought Kimi was the World Champion as Hamilton bottled it last year.

Massa was his usual self, great start and he binned it by himself. Then took a swipe at DC. Fantastic comments by DC during the race. Kimi sometimes just can't get everything hooked up and looses interest.

 

[Kebabselector]

Any UK members up and about (or any members where it is an unsociable hour).

I wanted to see if the itv.com stream would not have adverts but currently it doesn't support Mac OS X so that idea is out

I was watching it my MacBook (on Leopard, not bootcamp) and the stream worked. The stream did have the ads. (was watching the TV though, put it on to see if the ads were present).

 

[doubleohseven]

I apologise if this has been brought up already, but;

Did anyone notice the MacBook Air in the commentators room?

 

[R.Youden]

I apologise if this has been brought up already, but;

Did anyone notice the MacBook Air in the commentators room?

No, when was that shown? I never bother watching all the crap they spout before the race, I normally turn on with about 15 minutes to go. Was it in the ITV booth?

 

[doubleohseven]

No, when was that shown? I never bother watching all the crap they spout before the race, I normally turn on with about 15 minutes to go. Was it in the ITV booth?

It was shown at the end of the race with three commentators- I don't know if it was in the ITV booth, but they were indoors. It may not have been shown for international viewers, but it was definitely shown here in Australia.

 

[R.Youden]

It was shown at the end of the race with three commentators- I don't know if it was in the ITV booth, but they were indoors. It may not have been shown for international viewers, but it was definitely shown here in Australia.

No, it will probably have been the Australian only broadcast. That is the perfect environment for a MBA, just hope the battery life lasts the race!

 

[Father Jack]

Lewis is the man ...

 

[R.Youden]

In further fall-out from the Grand Prix, Rubens has been disqualified for leaving the pit lane whilst the exit was closed, thats a shame as the safety car came just at the wrong time for him so he HAD to stop for more fuel.

And Nakajima has been docked 10 qualifying spots on the grid in Malaysia because of running into the back of Kubica.

No doubt he will try and blame that on a lack of traction control. James Allen on ITV blamed all 3 safety car periods on the TC ban, then Martin Brundle turned round a basically said that is b****cks, the 1st period was because of the start which could have happened before (and did!), the 2nd was Massa getting a rush of blood to his head to taking out DC, and the final one was when Glock ran wide and got air-born on a service road, again no TC to blame there.

Please can someone shut James Allen up! I am thinking of watching the next race without any sound and listen to radio 5 live commentary,its far better, the only down-side is that the two are out of sync.

Updated results:

1. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes
2. Heidfeld BMW Sauber
3. Rosberg Williams-Toyota
4. Alonso Renault
5. Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes
6. Nakajima Williams-Toyota
7. Bourdais Toro Rosso-Ferrari
8. Raikkonen Ferrari

 

[pachyderm]

1 Lewis Hamilton British McLaren-Mercedes 10
2 Nick Heidfeld German BMW 8
3 Nico Rosberg German Williams-Toyota 6
4 Fernando Alonso Spanish Renault 5
5 Heikki Kovalainen Finnish McLaren-Mercedes 4
6 Kazuki Nakajima Japanese Williams-Toyota 3
7 Sebastien Bourdais French STR-Ferrari 2
8 Kimi Räikkönen Finnish Ferrari 1

Nick Heidfeld, BMW Sauber (2nd):
"This was a fantastic start to the season for us. The team was working extremely hard to solve the problems we had in the beginning with the F1.08. We made constant progress and we have not exploited the full potential of the car yet. At the start I had too much wheel spin and could not keep Nico Rosberg behind me. I thought it is going to become a difficult race because I expected him to pit earlier. But we stopped on the same lap and our crew did a really great job to get me in front of him. With my second pit stop I was lucky that the safety car didn't come out earlier and I could refuel as planned. In the last stint I had to take care not to kill the option tyres. Overall the first race without traction control was less difficult than expected."

Nico Rosberg, Williams (3rd):
“I am really, really happy and I have to say that being on the podium in Formula One is a really great feeling. It’s been a while since I have been here and its great for the whole team as they have been working hard over the winter, they have done a good job and made some real progress. I gave everything I had today, but it was a tough race on a street circuit in the heat which didn’t make it easy. The team deserves my thanks for this great result and it really encourages me to feel that I can grow with Williams. I also want to thank my father for everything he has done to help me to get to this position. We have a solid race car and some good developments coming, but we don’t want to get too excited because it’s early days yet.”

Jarno Trulli, Toyota (DNF):
“From early on in the race the battery was too hot. Then when I stopped in the pits it just gave up. That is a pity because the car felt good and I was doing pretty well. I was running comfortably in the points so it is unfortunate to lose out on a scoring start to the year. Still, the car is better than last year's and there is performance to come. Here we didn't look too strong because we didn't work the tyres perfectly but even so we could have had a good result. So I'm sure we can fight well this year and I hope to be stronger in Malaysia.”

2/3 's of my guys did well...jarno looked like a point scorer for a bit...poor little jarno... nick and nico did very well!

 

[iGav]

the 2nd was Massa getting a rush of blood to his head to taking out DC

Even DC's manager placed the blame on DC for that one. DC's never used his mirrors, he never will... he'll just keep on turning in regardless.

But even then, both of Ferrari's drivers looked like... rookies. Unbelievable.

Ferrari are sooooo going to regret not giving Ross Brawn what ever he wanted.

 

[R.Youden]

Even DC's manager placed the blame on DC for that one. DC's never used his mirrors, he never will... he'll just keep on turning in regardless.

But even then, both of Ferrari's drivers looked like... rookies. Unbelievable.

Ferrari are sooooo going to regret not giving Ross Brawn what ever he wanted.

It is funny you mention the mirrors. I know a race engineer from Red Bull and that is all DC can say after a test, how much he hates the position on the mirrors. Once they tried a new diff and when asked how he thought it performed his reply was, "I don't know really, I couldn't see anything out of the mirrors!"

 

[iGav]

Toro Rosso team put up for sale.

Toro Rosso was formed at the start of 2006, after Mateschitz bought the team off Minardi boss Paul Stoddart.

Please, please don't sell it back to him.

 

[bartelby]

Toro Rosso team put up for sale.



Please, please don't sell it back to him.

I liked Stoddart. He was a proper second hand car dealer.

 

[Counterfit]

Even DC's manager placed the blame on DC for that one. DC's never used his mirrors, he never will... he'll just keep on turning in regardless.

Video certainly shows that Massa's front wheel was about equal with DC's barge boards. But then DC says he knew FM was there, so he turned in why?

But even then, both of Ferrari's drivers looked like... rookies. Unbelievable.

Kimi looked ****ing FANTASTIC until he went off trying to pass Heikki.

Ferrari are sooooo going to regret not giving Ross Brawn what ever he wanted.

Wasn't he on sabbatical last year anyway? Maybe they need Schumi at more GPs.

 

[pachyderm]

i hate to see toro rosso fade away and although i have no problem with stoddart i'd rather him not go back to f1 just yet. be neat if they could just be absorbed into another team... and i'd like to see the teams be allowed to field 3-4 cars each if they could make the grid...

 

[xUKHCx]

Kimi looked ****ing FANTASTIC until he went off trying to pass Heikki.

He looked good but the errors could've easily put him out of the race, how many times did he go off.

Also big news day

Todt steps down as Ferrari boss

Ferrari have named Amedeo Felisa as the Formula One team's chief executive after the resignation of Jean Todt.
Todt, 62, who was a key figure in turning the Italian team into one of F1's most successful teams, will stay on in a senior executive role.