Maybe they need Schumi at more GPs.
Yeah... behind the f**kin' wheel of the car.
With Brawn, and now Todt leaving... I suspect we're seeing the beginning of a decline by Ferrari.
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Yeah... behind the f**kin' wheel of the car.
With Brawn, and now Todt leaving... I suspect we're seeing the beginning of a decline by Ferrari.
Yeah... behind the f**kin' wheel of the car.
With Brawn, and now Todt leaving... I suspect we're seeing the beginning of a decline by Ferrari.
I think it is a natural progression. Any team that has the amount of success Ferrari had will have a downturn in form. What I think is most alarming is not how they are apparently struggling (hell, we have only had one race and Kimi was on the pace when in clear air, and not the gravel) but how poor they look. Kimi suffered 2 reliability failures and Massa was not on the pace. In-fact I think Ferrari made it look like an A1GP. I know they are making the A1GP cars for next season, have they started early and running it as an F1 car?
It appears that it's Ferrari's desire to return to a more Italian team. I just hope that it doesn't bring a return of the internal politicking of the 1980's and 1990's with it.
that is wishful thinking at best...
they will suffer the consequences again if they do. todt, who i think is a bonehhead, clearly helped get them going in the right direction merely by hiring brawn.
rubens, i'd guess, helped pull the coup of the year luring brawn to honda.
Oh, no.
Grandprix.com said:
Stoddart said:
pachyderm said:
Given recent appointments, they're already well down that avenue.
Some, hopefully, good news:
F1 is coming back to the BBC:
Linky
I hope they keep on with Martin Brundle but get one of the radio 5 guys in, James Allen is so damn annoying!
Just noticed this:
So it wasn't an open bid, obviously Bernie doesn't like ITV either. Bernie missed the race last week so he obviously had to watch it on TV like everyone else and was straight onto the phone to the BBC on monday morning!
F1 is coming back to the BBC:
Linky
I hope they keep on with Martin Brundle but get one of the radio 5 guys in, James Allen is so damn annoying!
Just noticed this:
BBC said:
So it wasn't an open bid, obviously Bernie doesn't like ITV either. Bernie missed the race last week so he obviously had to watch it on TV like everyone else and was straight onto the phone to the BBC on monday morning!
Just saw this news! Excellent, no more bloody adverts....now I want them to bring back the original music too
dum, dum-dum-dum dum-dum-dum-dum-dum, dummmm...
dum, dum-dum-dum dum-dum-dum-dum-dum, dummmm...
well first post in this thread, and haven't read anything as there are a lot of posts.
w/e ill be looking on here for this fri and saturday
w/e ill be looking on here for this fri and saturday
Just saw this news! Excellent, no more bloody adverts....now I want them to bring back the original music too
dum, dum-dum-dum dum-dum-dum-dum-dum, dummmm...
you're damn right there mate.. the ad's during the grand prix are soooooo grrrrrr
but i wonder who the commentary team will be.. i actually don't mind the current team on itv (or maybe i've just got used to them now),,
you're damn right there mate.. the ad's during the grand prix are soooooo grrrrrr
but i wonder who the commentary team will be.. i actually don't mind the current team on itv (or maybe i've just got used to them now),,
I am guessing it will be Martin Brundle and David Croft, Maurice Hamilton and Holly Samos.
Wouldn't mind that at all.
Looks like ITV pulled out of the contract early. No matter what the reason, I'll be very pleased to see it back on the BBC. Excellent news. Hopefully we'll see some progress on how the sport's televised. Full interactive coverage, web streaming, multiple angles and... (fingers crossed) high definition.
Please don't tease me with the prospect of no James Allen on my television. I can't allow myself to dare to dream that it is so until I have confirmation that he has been taken round the back of the pit pane and humanely destroyed.....ah hell it doesn't even have to be humane!
LOL. So much hate for poor James Allen.
If the BBC can get Des Lynam back, then we need us some Murray Walker!
If the BBC can get Des Lynam back, then we need us some Murray Walker!
this is great news. No more missing chunks of the race for bloody adverts.
Just hope the BBC do the same pre-race coverage that ITV are doing.
and maybe now would be a good time to start the 'Bring back Murray' campaign...
Just hope the BBC do the same pre-race coverage that ITV are doing.
and maybe now would be a good time to start the 'Bring back Murray' campaign...
I just saw an interesting theory behind this move, very Bernie like:
Bernie has just purchased a football club, QPR, which is situated next to television centre in London. Now with the amount of money that Bernie will put into QPR a Chelsea like success is inevitable with 5-10 years. Therefore they will need a bigger ground than Loftus Road. The BBC are looking at moving away from television centre and that site would make an ideal stadium.
Now if Bernie wanted first dibs on the site he could give the BBC a nice little earner to ensure he gets the land.
Also ITV have not pleased Bernie recently. The almost got banned from showing the French GP last year, they where late from an advert break and missed the 5 minute warning and Martin Brundle has said a few things last year which didn't go down too well.
Bernie has just purchased a football club, QPR, which is situated next to television centre in London. Now with the amount of money that Bernie will put into QPR a Chelsea like success is inevitable with 5-10 years. Therefore they will need a bigger ground than Loftus Road. The BBC are looking at moving away from television centre and that site would make an ideal stadium.
Now if Bernie wanted first dibs on the site he could give the BBC a nice little earner to ensure he gets the land.
Also ITV have not pleased Bernie recently. The almost got banned from showing the French GP last year, they where late from an advert break and missed the 5 minute warning and Martin Brundle has said a few things last year which didn't go down too well.
I think this maybe one of the problems with the ITv coverage, it is far too much quantity than quality. ITV try to make everything like pop-idol. They interview celebrities and people that obviously don't know anything about motorsport. They look at who has the biggest motor home or some other crap like that. Get back to proper Formula One and show interesting stuff that the fans want, not what a casual viewer maybe interested in.
The Monaco Grand Prix is the prime example. Every year ITV send Louise Goodman down to the drivers ball and parade her around interviewing all the drivers and just bigging up their egos. Who give a toss about that sort of thing? I couldn't care less what bimbo Lewis Hamilton is going out with. If I wanted to know that I would read Sugar, not Autosport. So why is the TV coverage set in that way?
Sorry, I meant the Brundle specials, the tours of the factory, the track walk etc. Agree with you on the pandering to the egos.
Though I wonder if we'll get all of the races live... unlike the last time Auntie had it.
I'm not an especially big fan of ITV's coverage, the most annoying instance was perhaps Imola 2005 when they went to adverts with a lap or so to go.
But I will admit they raised the bar with their coverage, BBC seldom showed qualifying live, and their coverage before or after the race was nearly non-existent.
But the BBC now have by far and away the best interactive and multi-choice platform, so there should no longer be any excuses.
Of course, Bernie should bring back F1 Digital... now that was coverage.
well i'm envious of you lot for getting F1 back on proper telly.
and i can see that yer all bereft at the prospect of losing james allen...
i'm not sure what a "prat" is but i bet he comes close to personifying it...
that said, if you ever get a chance (mind you i'm not especially a fan of all they do or the series itself) try to catch a few minutes of a NASCAR broadcast.
agreed - hillbillies one and all and accents aside, they do a very good job and usually don't focus on the "red carpet" aspect(who's dating who and what are they wearing...).
commercials aside i'd love F1 to be that open to working with the tv team. cameras everywhere and usually very quick interviews with the drivers or race teams. and that is after a wreck or a failure of some sort. they don't have to go and talk to the big wigs first. they are completely candid. good stuff.
and i can see that yer all bereft at the prospect of losing james allen...
i'm not sure what a "prat" is but i bet he comes close to personifying it...
that said, if you ever get a chance (mind you i'm not especially a fan of all they do or the series itself) try to catch a few minutes of a NASCAR broadcast.
agreed - hillbillies one and all and accents aside, they do a very good job and usually don't focus on the "red carpet" aspect(who's dating who and what are they wearing...).
commercials aside i'd love F1 to be that open to working with the tv team. cameras everywhere and usually very quick interviews with the drivers or race teams. and that is after a wreck or a failure of some sort. they don't have to go and talk to the big wigs first. they are completely candid. good stuff.
Though I wonder if we'll get all of the races live... unlike the last time Auntie had it.
I'm not an especially big fan of ITV's coverage, the most annoying instance was perhaps Imola 2005 when they went to adverts with a lap or so to go.
But I will admit they raised the bar with their coverage, BBC seldom showed qualifying live, and their coverage before or after the race was nearly non-existent.
But the BBC now have by far and away the best interactive and multi-choice platform, so there should no longer be any excuses.
Of course, Bernie should bring back F1 Digital... now that was coverage.
I'm not sure about the Beeb and F1. CF cricket with Auntie and then with Channel 4 - their coverage was immeasurably better with Hawkeye etc. I quite enjoyed F1 on ITV - I don't mind the ads and James Allen isn't that annoying, plus Louise Goodman and Ted Kravitz undoubtedly know what they're talking about.
I liked the old SPEED channel coverage of F1 races in the US, especially the commentary of David Hobbs. Haven't seen much of it since it went to Fox...
The big problem for us in the staes is just cost...in order to get F1 on TV I need a $50/month series of cable packages. If I want to watch Premier League as well that's another $10-20/month. Gets expensive.
The big problem for us in the staes is just cost...in order to get F1 on TV I need a $50/month series of cable packages. If I want to watch Premier League as well that's another $10-20/month. Gets expensive.
you watch it on speed?
with those two really old guys?
i like them they know what there talking about and if you have listened to something like nascar commentary, they just talk to fill the silence, its nice just listening to the cars.
I liked the old SPEED channel coverage of F1 races in the US, especially the commentary of David Hobbs. Haven't seen much of it since it went to Fox...
The big problem for us in the staes is just cost...in order to get F1 on TV I need a $50/month series of cable packages. If I want to watch Premier League as well that's another $10-20/month. Gets expensive.
F1 is still on SPEED in the US with David, Bob and Steve still. For the last two seasons, FOX got 4 races. Last season, it was the SPEED commentators with FOX shirts on! That was much better than listening to Sam Posey (I'm just not a fan...).
I am eagerly waiting for Speed HD to come around for F1! Does anyone know if and when this might happen?
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