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2008 Formula One Thread
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Bernie's plain wrong, or has incompetent techies doing the FOM coverage.
However, I think FOM have actually got a clue because coverage has been consistently good since they took over - the G-force and rev counter graphics are good examples. If FOM can provide an HD feed, I imagine the Beeb will show it. It's a good USP.
A counterpoint to that is the BBC's Wimbledon coverage which is simply awesome. If the BBC but half as much effort into F1 coverage then it'll be great. Holly Samos would be a great Goodman replacement with a much better interview technique! And, as last week's F1 coverage showed, Ted couldn't tell a set of scrubbed tyres from his elbow
Holly Samos would be a great Goodman replacement with a much better interview technique! And, as last week's F1 coverage showed, Ted couldn't tell a set of scrubbed tyres from his elbow
According to Sky News, Richard Hammond is potentially being lined up. Someone that has previously confessed to knowing nothing about F1. Perfect.
Eek. Didn't he at one point on Top Gear say that he actually didn't like F1 at all?
Probably a case of Sky News being a bit wrong. Wouldn't be the first time. Much as a like the Hamster, unless he's secretly been an F1 fan forever I can't see it being a good idea
indeed! i think we need to start a campaign to get him out of retirement!!
I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him commentate on a few races per year (possibly the British GP and some nearby European races) or presenting some special features. But the schedule and sheer amount of travelling and time away from home to cover a whole season would most likely be a bit much for Murray. He's not getting any younger
Probably a case of Sky News being a bit wrong. Wouldn't be the first time. Much as a like the Hamster, unless he's secretly been an F1 fan forever I can't see it being a good idea
Not just Sky.
It gets far, far worse...
The Times said:
The Times said:
The Times said:
sooooooooooooooo glad i watch it on speed and not the bbc.
i mean those guys are chill, but have they ever raced for season, raced anything.
I think when Hammond drive the Renault f1 car he gained a lot of respect for F1 drivers and maybe gained some interest in the sport. Also Clarkson does like his F1.
At the end of the day who would you rather have presenting F1, Steve Rider or the top gear presenters?
At the end of the day who would you rather have presenting F1, Steve Rider or the top gear presenters?
Hammond's raced in a 24hr 2CV race, a Rover SD in an historic touring car race, and their BMW 330D in the Britcar 24 hrs. He's also driven an FRenault, Renault World Series, and Renault F1 car. May and Clarkson both contended the Britcar 24hrs with Hammond - and they didn't do too bad - my other half and I went to Silverstone to see the end of the race.
I'm not sure that TG + F1 is the best idea. SOME features cross over could be a laugh, but to be honest - anything would be better than James Allen. Ebola would be better than James Allen. I'm prepared to see what the BBC's plans formerly are, and see them in action, before passing judgement. I LOVE F1, and I LOVE Top Gear. But I also love Bacon and Ice Cream. Will they work together? Not so sure. Lets see what happens first before passing judgement on broadcasting that hasn't even happened yet. Hammond as the anchor, Clarkson interviewing drivers, May doing historical articles - it could work, but I don't think a full TG-into-F1 thing is what the BBC is planning.
Doug
good point about bacon and ice cream.
you proved my point for me, they have not done an entire season (not one race) of any form of racing. completing a 24 hour race is something, but an entire season is much longer than that
Ditto 4 of the 6 ITV regulars. Of the two that have, one adds 4/5ths of 7/8ths of f-all to the broadcasts. I'd really like to see Brundle retained, but the rest - some I want to see the back of, some I don't care either way. We don't really know what the BBC is planning yet - I think we need to hurry up and wait to see what they're ACUALLY planning ( from the horses mouth ) rather than criticizing decisions we don't really know the BBC have made, or what such coverage might actually be like.
Doug
You've got..
Not Racing Drivers
James Allen ( has to go )
Steve Ryder ( likes motorsport, but not important )
Louise Goodman (not bad, but can be patronising to drivers)
Ted Kravitz (some reports good, but replaceable)
Racing Drivers
Mark Blundell ( racing driver, utterly dreadful )
Martin Brundle ( racing driver, utterly irreplaceable )
4 of the 6 are not racing drivers, and of those that are, one is useless. My point being, racing driver != good commentator.
Doug
Not Racing Drivers
James Allen ( has to go )
Steve Ryder ( likes motorsport, but not important )
Louise Goodman (not bad, but can be patronising to drivers)
Ted Kravitz (some reports good, but replaceable)
Racing Drivers
Mark Blundell ( racing driver, utterly dreadful )
Martin Brundle ( racing driver, utterly irreplaceable )
4 of the 6 are not racing drivers, and of those that are, one is useless. My point being, racing driver != good commentator.
Doug
he is/was a driver but you don't rate him....
malaysia practice times:
Pos No Driver Team Time/Retired Gap Laps
1 3 Nick Heidfeld BMW 1:35.019 18
2 1 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 1:35.262 0.243 17
3 2 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:35.388 0.369 17
4 11 Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:35.389 0.370 20
5 10 Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1:35.437 0.418 16
6 9 David Coulthard Red Bull-Renault 1:35.653 0.634 17
7 6 Nelsinho Piquet Renault 1:35.768 0.749 15
8 16 Jenson Button Honda 1:35.781 0.762 19
9 15 Sebastian Vettel STR-Ferrari 1:35.827 0.808 16
10 12 Timo Glock Toyota 1:35.911 0.892 21
11 22 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:35.927 0.908 13
12 5 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:36.068 1.049 14
13 8 Kazuki Nakajima Williams-Toyota 1:36.183 1.164 14
14 21 Giancarlo Fisichella Force India-Ferrari 1:36.229 1.210 21
15 7 Nico Rosberg Williams-Toyota 1:36.490 1.471 7
16 23 Heikki Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes 1:36.529 1.510 16
17 4 Robert Kubica BMW 1:36.618 1.599 19
18 14 Sebastien Bourdais STR-Ferrari 1:36.668 1.649 15
19 18 Takuma Sato Super Aguri-Honda 1:36.908 1.889 14
20 20 Adrian Sutil Force India-Ferrari 1:36.939 1.920 21
21 19 Anthony Davidson Super Aguri-Honda 1:37.140 2.121 12
22 17 Rubens Barrichello Honda 1:37.703 2.684 6
qualifying in one hour....
he is/was a driver but you don't rate him....
malaysia practice times:
Pos No Driver Team Time/Retired Gap Laps
1 3 Nick Heidfeld BMW 1:35.019 18
2 1 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 1:35.262 0.243 17
3 2 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:35.388 0.369 17
4 11 Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:35.389 0.370 20
5 10 Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1:35.437 0.418 16
6 9 David Coulthard Red Bull-Renault 1:35.653 0.634 17
7 6 Nelsinho Piquet Renault 1:35.768 0.749 15
8 16 Jenson Button Honda 1:35.781 0.762 19
9 15 Sebastian Vettel STR-Ferrari 1:35.827 0.808 16
10 12 Timo Glock Toyota 1:35.911 0.892 21
11 22 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:35.927 0.908 13
12 5 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:36.068 1.049 14
13 8 Kazuki Nakajima Williams-Toyota 1:36.183 1.164 14
14 21 Giancarlo Fisichella Force India-Ferrari 1:36.229 1.210 21
15 7 Nico Rosberg Williams-Toyota 1:36.490 1.471 7
16 23 Heikki Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes 1:36.529 1.510 16
17 4 Robert Kubica BMW 1:36.618 1.599 19
18 14 Sebastien Bourdais STR-Ferrari 1:36.668 1.649 15
19 18 Takuma Sato Super Aguri-Honda 1:36.908 1.889 14
20 20 Adrian Sutil Force India-Ferrari 1:36.939 1.920 21
21 19 Anthony Davidson Super Aguri-Honda 1:37.140 2.121 12
22 17 Rubens Barrichello Honda 1:37.703 2.684 6
qualifying in one hour....
did you watch it?
how is the track?
more importantly how is ferrari?
he is/was a driver but you don't rate him....
It maybe because he struggles to speak coherent english.
Quali about to start with the threat of rain towards the end of the session, should be good.
nice, good qualifying session.
spoiler
1. massa 2. kimi
just the way i like it, exactly how i like it, well except for mclaren (spel) could be more towards the back
spoiler
1. massa 2. kimi
just the way i like it, exactly how i like it, well except for mclaren (spel) could be more towards the back
Or contribute anything of value to the ITV broadcasts at all. He was a good racing driver, but he's not a good broadcaster. Not sure why benlangdon and Pachyderm seem to have a problem with that. Don't get me wrong, he's not registering on my hate-o-meter like James 'the cock' Allen, but he's certainly not someone I'd want to see retained by the BBC.
"Renault say it'll be here in 7 minutes".
Not
A
Drop
Anyone looked at Kuala Lumpur on the Dashboard weather icon - it's not exactly indicative of what we've seen so far.
Doug
Surely the fact that we won't get "Ad's" every ten minutes must be an improvement ...It's going to be awful.
If the commentary team are crap, at least we can turn the sound down ..
not really though was it
http://www.fatduck.co.uk/menu_degustation.htm
see the item third from bottom
McLaren drivers docked five places.
Revised grid:
1. Massa Ferrari
2. Raikkonen Ferrari
3. Trulli Toyota
4. Kubica BMW Sauber
5. Heidfeld BMW Sauber
6. Webber Red Bull-Renault
7. Alonso Renault
8. Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes *
9. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes *
10. Glock Toyota
11. Button Honda
12. Coulthard Red Bull-Renault
13. Piquet Renault
14. Barrichello Honda
15. Vettel Toro Rosso-Ferrari
16. Rosberg Williams-Toyota
17. Fisichella Force India-Ferrari
18. Bourdais Toro Rosso-Ferrari
19. Sato Super Aguri-Honda
20. Sutil Force India-Ferrari
21. Davidson Super Aguri-Honda
22. Nakajima Williams-Toyota **
* Penalised for blocking
** Penalised for his crash his Australia
Revised grid:
1. Massa Ferrari
2. Raikkonen Ferrari
3. Trulli Toyota
4. Kubica BMW Sauber
5. Heidfeld BMW Sauber
6. Webber Red Bull-Renault
7. Alonso Renault
8. Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes *
9. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes *
10. Glock Toyota
11. Button Honda
12. Coulthard Red Bull-Renault
13. Piquet Renault
14. Barrichello Honda
15. Vettel Toro Rosso-Ferrari
16. Rosberg Williams-Toyota
17. Fisichella Force India-Ferrari
18. Bourdais Toro Rosso-Ferrari
19. Sato Super Aguri-Honda
20. Sutil Force India-Ferrari
21. Davidson Super Aguri-Honda
22. Nakajima Williams-Toyota **
* Penalised for blocking
** Penalised for his crash his Australia
a little unfair seeing as there were 6 other cars cruising round the circuit at the same speeds
i'm sure alonso won't have taken too long thinking about protesting against his former team, but obviously wouldn't dream about protesting against a team he wants to join next year
edit - http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=z3_GjtJ9SIY
looks like they were at fault, hamilton realised his error and moved over though it looks like
i'm sure alonso won't have taken too long thinking about protesting against his former team, but obviously wouldn't dream about protesting against a team he wants to join next year
edit - http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=z3_GjtJ9SIY
looks like they were at fault, hamilton realised his error and moved over though it looks like
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