2008 Formula One Thread

[benlangdon]

Are you sure you watched the right race?

Or do you mean it was less than eventful because a red car didn't win?


Kimi was just being Kimi.
Why should he try when he's just extended his contract.

well kinda,
but i mean there were a couple of good passes (not including masa's ugly one)
then tires came into the race
then it ended.

w/e i was kinda dozing off in the beginning, i am freaking tired.

 

[pachyderm]

well done to vettel. rain aided pole and win.
but he didn't throw it away in the wet and that says something.

 

[bobertoq]

Just like the MotoGP. There'll probably be the strange multi-shadow thing going on too.

Personally I think they should stick headlights on the cars and drive in the dark, Le Mans style

Mhh... not to sure about that haha, but I thought it would be like driving out on the roads at night today, where there are street lights here and there. Not like a baseball or football game late at night.

Wasn't there enough lighting to light a road from Qatar to Moscow, or something stupid like that?

I say balls to the F1 and they should have a proper 24hr race season.

Hahah yes. Good luck with the engines. I myself would like to see F1 race on Nürburgring Nordschleife.

 

[benlangdon]

I myself would like to see F1 race on Nürburgring Nordschleife.

thats the 14 mile one right?
i would pay, to see that.

 

[Counterfit]

thats the 14 mile one right?
i would pay, to see that.

12.93 miles. The race would only be 14 laps.

 

[iGav]

The German national anthem followed by the Italian one.... just like the good old days.

What a guy!!

And to think, if it wasn't for Schumacher...

Or do you mean it was less than eventful because a red car didn't win?

Well, it kind of did.

But one can only but imagine the deafening sound of toys been thrown out of prams on the boards had it been a driver in a red car putting Glock on the grass and attempting the same with Webber whilst banging wheels.

I look forward to the day Vettel signs for Ferrari... and Hamilton won't be able to resist the alliance forever.

 

[iJohnHenry]

I wanna see them return to the Le Mans start.

People falling down is always good for a laugh, especially if they are about to get run over.

 

[CWallace]

I myself would like to see F1 race on Nürburgring Nordschleife.

It was not a race, but in 2007 Nick Heidfeld did three exhibition laps of the Nordschleife in the BMW-Sauber F!.06.

He managed a best lap of 8:34 (which is quite slow on the list) and a top speed of 275 km/h on the long straight. There are YouTube videos of the run.

 

[benlangdon]

It was not a race, but in 2007 Nick Heidfeld did three exhibition laps of the Nordschleife in the BMW-Sauber F!.06.

He managed a best lap of 8:34 (which is quite slow on the list) and a top speed of 275 km/h on the long straight. There are YouTube videos of the run.

wow that is really slow.
didn't someone do 9:59 in a minivan.
i think it was on top gear

12.93 miles. The race would only be 14 laps.

and it would take up the whole race limit because of all the crashes


but any way,
i would absolutly love to see a f1 race at nurb. and to actually attend would complete my life.

 

[bobertoq]

I wanna see them return to the Le Mans start.

People falling down is always good for a laugh, especially if they are about to get run over.

That would be cool.

It was not a race, but in 2007 Nick Heidfeld did three exhibition laps of the Nordschleife in the BMW-Sauber F!.06.

He managed a best lap of 8:34 (which is quite slow on the list) and a top speed of 275 km/h on the long straight. There are YouTube videos of the run.

According to Wikipedia:
BMW announced that the car was slowed with hard demonstration tires, maximum ride height, and 275 km/h top speed limited by the transmission.

I wanna see them go all out. But that's still cool!

One thing that has bothered me about Formula 1 is how they are slowing down the cars IMO, to make a race more interesting, make the cars go faaaster! Also, use longer and curvier tracks with slow and faaaast turns I would love to see 3 litre v10s back with over 1,000 hp and 22,000 RPM, etc. but the cars still go fast.

 

[benlangdon]

One thing that has bothered me about Formula 1 is how they are slowing down the cars IMO, to make a race more interesting, make the cars go faaaster! Also, use longer and curvier tracks with slow and faaaast turns I would love to see 3 litre v10s back with over 1,000 hp and 22,000 RPM, etc. but the cars still go fast.

i feel ya there totally
but it does improve technology
just bring back the turbo.

i wonder how next season will be with the power boost thing from getting energy from the brakes.

 

[RaceTripper]

Well, the faster they go, the greater the gaps between cars, and faster corners will increase that even more. Very boring. Some of the best racing is with the slower cars where you get great fender to fender action, battles for corners, etc. I love to watch Speed World Challenge GT and Touring Car, and British Touring Car races for that reason.

Faster cars produce boring follow-the-leader races. Nowadays the best F1 races are those run in the rain. F1 used to be my favorite motorsport, but now I'd rather watch sports car racing.

 

[Don't panic]

Well, the faster they go, the greater the gaps between cars, and faster corners will increase that even more. Very boring. Some of the best racing is with the slower cars where you get great fender to fender action, battles for corners, etc. I love to watch Speed World Challenge GT and Touring Car, and British Touring Car races for that reason.

Faster cars produce boring follow-the-leader races. Nowadays the best F1 races are those run in the rain. F1 used to be my favorite motorsport, but now I'd rather watch sports car racing.

mainly the speed has been limited for safety reasons.

they could certainly go a lot faster if they go all-out (turbo, ground effect, slick tyres, larger wings), but when inevitably some car loses adherence, they'd fly into walls and such at unbelievable speeds, most likely causing lethal crashes.

Also, i had read that they are already close to the G-force limits above which drivers would 'black-out' and be unable to drive, but i don't know how much of it is urban legend.

 

[RaceTripper]

mainly the speed has been limited for safety reasons.

they could certainly go a lot faster if they go all-out (turbo, ground effect, slick tyres, larger wings), but when inevitably some car loses adherence, they'd fly into walls and such at unbelievable speeds, most likely causing lethal crashes.


Also, i had read that they are already close to the G-force limits above which drivers would 'black-out' and be unable to drive, but i don't know how much of it is urban legend.

They do up to about 5 Gs in hard cornering. I think fighter jet pilots do even more than that.

F1 didn't go from V10 engines to V8s for safety reasons. It was one of Max Mosley's brilliant ideas to lower costs. Of course the teams spent a billion dollars or so to develop the new engines.

There is actually talk about going back to turbos, but they would be smaller engines.

 

[Don't panic]

F1 didn't go from V10 engines to V8s for safety reasons. It was one of Max Mosley's brilliant ideas to lower costs. Of course the teams spent a billion dollars or so to develop the new engines.

There is actually talk about going back to turbos, but they would be smaller engines.

I am positive the engineers could easily design cars that go 20-30% faster than they go now AND make them cheaper at the same time, if they were allowed a freer hand.
the high costs are due to the fact that they have to make the cars go faster while abiding to increasingly stricter rules.
the main reason or the continuous tinkering with the rules is to rein in absolute speed.

 

[djellison]

wow that is really slow.
didn't someone do 9:59 in a minivan.
i think it was on top gear

Clarkson drove a Diesel Jag to a 9:59 lap. Sabine laid down a challenge saying she could beat that in a van. So a few months later they gave her a Ford Transit - and she managed about 10:15 or so.

A modern F1 car could quite easily do sub 5:30

Doug

 

[benlangdon]

Clarkson drove a Diesel Jag to a 9:59 lap. Sabine laid down a challenge saying she could beat that in a van. So a few months later they gave her a Ford Transit - and she managed about 10:15 or so.

A modern F1 car could quite easily do sub 5:30

Doug

o ya,
dam that girl was .


ya, i know the gaps would be huge if they raced on the nurb but all i really want to see is like a time attack, just to see what they could get.

 

[iJohnHenry]

You want a long race??

Try the Mille Miglia.

I still remember reading a Road & Track article by Sterling Moss, I think, when he was a driver/navigator in this race.

*&^%ing scary *&^% went down then.

 

[bobertoq]

I am positive the engineers could easily design cars that go 20-30% faster than they go now AND make them cheaper at the same time, if they were allowed a freer hand.
the high costs are due to the fact that they have to make the cars go faster while abiding to increasingly stricter rules.
the main reason or the continuous tinkering with the rules is to rein in absolute speed.

Well, they should make all the cars super fast with 3.0 Litre V10's but make all the cars exactly equal. So the races solely depend on driver skill.

 

[benlangdon]

Well, they should make all the cars super fast with 3.0 Litre V10's but make all the cars exactly equal. So the races solely depend on driver skill.

i would rather have more rules than all of them be equal.
if there all equal, this is champ car.
and i hate champ car.

 

[robbieduncan]

Lol! Official McLaren video of preparations for Singapore. Check out the rally-style lights :

Video Link

 

[bartelby]

Hahah yes. Good luck with the engines. I myself would like to see F1 race on Nürburgring Nordschleife.

Engines would be the teams problem, not mine.

F1 round the Nordschleife would be good. Bring back the full Spa and Hockenheimring circuits too.

 

[Superman07]

Lol! Official McLaren video of preparations for Singapore. Check out the rally-style lights :

Video Link

No way they'd run with those huge ass bug lights. Talk about ruining the aero package!

Btw, I think the guys with the air gun and wrench are getting fired.

 

[bobertoq]

Lol! Official McLaren video of preparations for Singapore. Check out the rally-style lights :

Video Link

Do I really have to be 18 to watch it?

 

[bobertoq]

Engines would be the teams problem, not mine.

F1 round the Nordschleife would be good. Bring back the full Spa and Hockenheimring circuits too.

I understand that haha...

Yes! I know. I heard that they don't use tracks like that because the safety marshal wouldn't be able to get to a crash quick enough I haven't seen a lethal F1 crash in... forever. But I have only seen about 3 or 4 races... hahaha