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2009/10 College Football Thread

obey908 said:
I am not wrong
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Yes you are.

If you need more proof than the rule book, watch the punt return by LSU's Trindon Holliday in the 4th Quarter of the Capital One Bowl on January 1, 2010. On the play, he made a vague, below-the-waist hand motion that was correctly ruled to not be either a valid nor an invalid fair catch signal.

If you were right, the ball would have been dead at the spot where he caught it. You're not, but I imagine you'll continue to cry about it.

Boo hoo.
 
Badandy said:
See section d? There's an exception to "any hand motion is a fair catch". It's right under what you highlighted, no less. I wonder what other hand motions are allowed for the ball to be live? What about pointing at a teammate on where to lay down a block?

Also, you can stop with the "you guys should watch more football". Do you think that's somehow insulting or makes you look cooler? Look, you won the game, get over it. As long as you know that you got murdered by USC last year in a BCS bowl I'm fine with it. Your team just can't show up for huge games and Paterno is the most overrated coach in the country.
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we got murdered in the 2nd quarter
 
IgnatiusTheKing said:
Yes you are.

If you need more proof than the rule book, watch the punt return by LSU's Trindon Holliday in the 4th Quarter of the Capital One Bowl on January 1, 2010. On the play, he made a vague, below-the-waist hand motion that was correctly ruled to not be either a valid nor an invalid fair catch signal.

If you were right, the ball would have been dead at the spot where he caught it. You're not, but I imagine you'll continue to cry about it.

Boo hoo.
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the proof is in the rule book, learn to read. Like I said, even the announcers were complaining about it for a while and they are SEC nut hangers
 
Badandy said:
See section d? There's an exception to "any hand motion is a fair catch". It's right under what you highlighted, no less. I wonder what other hand motions are allowed for the ball to be live? What about pointing at a teammate on where to lay down a block?

Also, you can stop with the "you guys should watch more football". Do you think that's somehow insulting or makes you look cooler? Look, you won the game, get over it. As long as you know that you got murdered by USC last year in a BCS bowl I'm fine with it. Your team just can't show up for huge games and Paterno is the most overrated coach in the country.
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I agree and my thoughts completely.

I will take it a step further. The Big 10 is the most overrated conference in the country
 
I wouldn't call that an insult, if you have watched enough college football you would know that rule, and have seen it called. The refs don't always catch it, but the majority of the time the refs see it and call it

and the exemption is to cover their eyes from sun, they only exemption....

And I am not whining about it, you guys are the one who tried saying I was wrong that any type of hand motion is supposed to be called as a fair catch, and then you go on to selectively copy and paste from the rule book to try and prove me wrong, when it is clearly stated.

IgnatiusTheKing said:
Yes you are.

If you need more proof than the rule book, watch the punt return by LSU's Trindon Holliday in the 4th Quarter of the Capital One Bowl on January 1, 2010. On the play, he made a vague, below-the-waist hand motion that was correctly ruled to not be either a valid nor an invalid fair catch signal.

If you were right, the ball would have been dead at the spot where he caught it. You're not, but I imagine you'll continue to cry about it.
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How do you read the rule book, and still say I am wrong? It is clearly stated, plain as day. Refs miss things.
 
obey908 said:
How do you read the rule book, and still say I am wrong? It is clearly stated, plain as day. Refs miss things.
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Because the punt returner wasn't "waving" his hand, so he wasn't making an invalid fair catch signal. As such, the refs followed the rules by ignoring the motion he made.

You know what other hand motion they ignore? When a player "waves" other players away from a poorly punted ball, only to field said ball (usually on a hop) and return it.
 
That is because that is a 2 handed wave, not a one handed wave. Pretty hard to confuse a one handed fair catch wave with a two arm crossing wave to tell your players to get out of the way. If a player does a one handed wave and fields the ball, then runs with it, it is a 5 yard penalty.

Even LSU fans from the scout and rivals message boards agree that it should have been called. Look even bama fans agree when it was called against them:
http://mobile.rollbamaroll.com/2009/11/15/1158920/did-arenas-signal-for-a-fair-catch

I don't get why you keep going on about this. The LSU player clearly was moving his hand around, which is an invalid fair catch, which counts as a fair catch. It was obvious enough for the commentators to carry on about it.
 
I think, IgnatiusTheKing, just has a problem. First I said pitt has no football following, which I knew was a fact. Then he comes back and says "spoken like a true psu'er" which he obviously has no idea what he is talking about. So I come back with facts, and he had nothing to say back.

Then I just simply said there were a lot of bad ref calls in the game, he then goes on to say that Trindon Holliday did make a movement with his arm. I tell him that any arm/hand motion is considered a fair catch, he tries to say I am wrong and selectively pulls stuff from the rule book. I prove he is obviously wrong, and he continues to go on about it, and says I am crying about it.

IgnatiusTheKing, what team do you like?
 
As for my teams

1) Colorado State University as I went there
2) Nebraska as I grew up there and have alot of relatives in Neb as well....as a matter of fact my Grandpa played college ball with Tom Osbourne and actually beat him out for class president at Hastings College. I think that is pretty cool!
 
I don't have a problem with you, I just disagree with your assessment of the penalty and think your constant harping about it is weird and sad given the fact that you won the game.

As for the Pitt/Penn State thing, I don't care either way, but I do know that Penn State has been trying to minimize Pitt for years by refusing to schedule them. Thus, when you made the comment that Pitt doesn't support their school, it absolutely sounded like something a PSU fan would say.

I got my undergrad at Texas A&M and I'm in grad school at TCU. How bad one of my alma maters is and how good the other one is has little bearing on anything I've said on this entire thread, with the possible exception of my distaste for the University of Texas and my under-appreciation of Colt McCoy.

Actually, on second thought, I do have something against you. The whole "you guys need to watch more football" thing was ridiculous, especially when you were so clearly wrong.
 
IgnatiusTheKing said:
I do indeed. And even though my feelings are undoubtedly colored by my school affiliation, I stand by everything I've ever said (including the praise I gave McCoy after Thanksgiving).
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As we've all kind of settled into a groove in this thread, I'm not sure I can disagree with anything you've said - you've been remarkably objective all things considered. Far more objective than my rampant Longhorn homerism, at least! :D
 
dmr727 said:
As we've all kind of settled into a groove in this thread, I'm not sure I can disagree with anything you've said - you've been remarkably objective all things considered. Far more objective than my rampant Longhorn homerism, at least! :D
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Unfortunately, it's a lot easier to be objective when you've sucked for most of a decade. With A&M on the verge of hiring a new defensive coordinator (an hopefully a new special teams coach, as well), hopefully I won't have to be so generous in the future.
 
IgnatiusTheKing said:
Unfortunately, it's a lot easier to be objective when you've sucked for most of a decade. With A&M on the verge of hiring a new defensive coordinator (an hopefully a new special teams coach, as well), hopefully I won't have to be so generous in the future.
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I know the feeling. After a great run in the 90s (for us) under Jackie Sherrill, our program hit rock bottom. Barring one bowl season in 2007, it has been a decade of futility. Of course, this year fell into the "so close, yet so far" category. We were 1 foot away from being 6-6 and bowl eligible. Of course, it was fun putting the beatdown on the Mississippi version of the teasippers.
 
With about 90 minutes to go before the Fiesta Bowl starts, TCU is a touchdown favorite over Boise State (largest point-spread favorite of any remaining game). While everyone seems to be focusing on the Boise offense vs. TCU defense storyline, it will be interesting to see how TCU's unheralded (but highly-ranked at #5 in total O) offense does against Boise's equally underrated but very good (#14 in total D) defense.

Both teams have done well in their biggest games this year, but TCU has performed a little better in its big games. I think TCU wins by about 10.
 
rhett7660 said:
The real game is on the 7th!!!!
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Well since there isn't a real championship at this level of college football, I guess we'll have to enjoy all the fake games (including the BCS "National Championship" Game).

rhett7660 said:
Roll Tide..
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You clowns were tolerable (even almost likable) when you were getting your tails kicked by Auburn every year. Did you learn nothing from your time in the dumpster?
 
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