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2009/10 College Football Thread

Tomorrow said:
The win last night over TCU was a major statement, bigger (in my mind) than the win over Oregon. A lot of people are going to remember it next year.

BSU's non-conference schedule is a mixed bag for next year (Toledo, Wyoming, Oregon State, and Virginia Tech), but still better than this year's.

It's certainly not out of the question, I agree with you there.
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I completely agree about this game being bigger than Oregon.

If there will be a year to make a run at the Championship it will be next year, because after next season our non-conference goes back to being weak until we start playing BYU/Utah in a couple of years.

IgnatiusTheKing said:
Going independent wouldn't necessarily work ...

Their best bet is to try to jump to the MWC ...
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Yeah, I don't think going independent would ever work because although we are gaining popularity we're not nearly popular enough to handle that kind of situation.

I think going to the MWC is still the ultimate goal, and will probably happen eventually unless the WAC has a serious turnaround (HA!)...

IgnatiusTheKing said:
A lot of media types are thinking Boise and Va Tech will both be top ten to start the 2010 season, and now it looks like the game (which will be played at FedEx Field) will be moved to Labor Day night to maximize exposure. Win that game and BSU could very well be sitting inside the top five after their first game, which would go a long way toward helping them get to the big one if they win out (again).
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A lot of analysts believe Boise State will begin the season in the top five, so a win over Va. Tech to get the season going can be a catapult in to #2.
 
IgnatiusTheKing said:
Like I said before, it's more than possible that Texas or Alabama would take it to either of the Fiesta Bowl participants, but we'll never know because people like you buy into the idea that you have to have been good in the 70s to be good now.
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People like me? People like me want a playoff with the 1-8 teams competing for the national title. Don't think that just because I believe Alabama or Florida would take it to TCU/Boise St. that I don't want them ('bama and florida) to have to prove it in a playoff.

As a USC fan, of course I want a playoff. We peak at the end of the year and we'd have won four national championships this decade instead of two. Playoffs are the only way.
 
evilgEEk said:
I disagree, because it just turned this thread in to a giant pissing match that made it so unbearable to participate in that nearly everyone left.

THAT is why it doesn't need to be said.

It's so nice that you immediately attack me because I don't feel like turning this thread in to a whine-fest.

No, I do NOT like the BCS, but it's the system we have and it's not going to change just by me whining about it in a thread on a computer forum.

And as far as not having a chance to reach the National Championship game, I believe that theory will be tested next season. If we run the table next season I truly believe we might find ourselves back in Glendale, but this time NOT for the Fiesta Bowl. :)
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This is what I find interesting. If Boise does do this well again I have a feeling there are going to be some serious discussion on where they should be. I agree with what others have said and I think the BCS is flawed, however there is nothing we can do about. If Alabama beats Texas or vise versa, I want to see where you guys fall into. I think number two (won't be number one just because the BCS ranking system won't do that) is where it will be and if you, big IF you run away and win all your games I could see Boise playing for the National Championship.
 
rhett7660 said:
I think number two (won't be number one just because the BCS ranking system won't do that) is where it will be and if you, big IF you run away and win all your games I could see Boise playing for the National Championship.
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Agreed.

It is a big IF too. I mean, there are a LOT of fans that say they would love for their programs to have a schedule like Boise State's, but then those teams either lose to teams like UTEP, Washington or actually lose TO Boise State. Heh.

I will be the first to admit the WAC is atrocious, but conference play is always difficult, and it's never a guarantee to go unbeaten, even in the WAC. We are a HUGE target when we're ranked so high, and we have to be 100% up for every game. That can be difficult to do, especially when you start getting far-sighted like thinking about potential National Championship berths. I think that's where Coach Petersen does such a great job. He's a great head coach, but I think he does even a better job with mental preparedness.
 
evilgEEk said:
Agreed.

It is a big IF too. I mean, there are a LOT of fans that say they would love for their programs to have a schedule like Boise State's, but then those teams either lose to teams like UTEP, Washington or actually lose TO Boise State. Heh.

I will be the first to admit the WAC is atrocious, but conference play is always difficult, and it's never a guarantee to go unbeaten, even in the WAC. We are a HUGE target when we're ranked so high, and we have to be 100% up for every game. That can be difficult to do, especially when you start getting far-sighted like thinking about potential National Championship berths. I think that's where Coach Petersen does such a great job. He's a great head coach, but I think he does even a better job with mental preparedness.
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That is the biggie right there. That can be huge for a team and can cost them dearly. I hope you guys do make it all the way!
 
Thanks! Me too! :)

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I saw this on ESPN.com and thought it was fairly humorous. :)

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evilgEEk said:
I think that's where Coach Petersen does such a great job. He's a great head coach, but I think he does even a better job with mental preparedness.
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And you know what? Without a playoff, the whole idea of a National Championship is bogus anyway. It's just some artificial construct made up by a couple of organizations looking to make some easy cash. You guys went undefeated, and finished the season by beating a really, really good TCU team. To hell with everyone else.
 
dmr727 said:
And you know what? Without a playoff, the whole idea of a National Championship is bogus anyway. It's just some artificial construct made up by a couple of organizations looking to make some easy cash. You guys went undefeated, and finished the season by beating a really, really good TCU team. To hell with everyone else.
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Careful there. You're starting to sound like a conspiracy theorist. ;)

P-Worm
 
So If you watched the Boise game last night and really believe they could compete against Alabama or Texas you must be on something. Did you see the Florida vs. Cincinnati? You can not tell me that the Florida game does not show how superior the SEC is.
 
canes960 said:
So If you watched the Boise game last night and really believe they could compete against Alabama or Texas you must be on something. Did you see the Florida vs. Cincinnati? You can not tell me that the Florida game does not show how superior the SEC is.
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All that game showed was how bad Cincinnati's defense is. And do you hear that Tomorrow? This is why I wanted these two teams to not have to play each other.

P-Worm
 
dukebound85 said:
BSU only wins with trick plays

How about they play normal football. We ain't playing Madden here
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I don't get what's inherently wrong with trick plays. They take discipline to pull off well. The argument against them reminds me of the people at the school yard that said you had to call your bank shots in basketball. Why?

P-Worm
 
canes960 said:
So If you watched the Boise game last night and really believe they could compete against Alabama or Texas you must be on something. Did you see the Florida vs. Cincinnati? You can not tell me that the Florida game does not show how superior the SEC is.
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Yea those non BCS schools suck.....I mean Utah did beat Bama last year:rolleyes:

P-Worm said:
I don't get what's inherently wrong with trick plays. They take discipline to pull off well. The argument against them reminds me of the people at the school yard that said you had to call your bank shots in basketball. Why?

P-Worm
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Well it's less wrong if TCU won ;)

But yea........I do prefer not to see trick plays as its somewhat cheap in my book, legal or not, whether my team wins or not

But yea, BSU can't seem to play conventional football in BCS games
 
dukebound85 said:
BSU only wins with trick plays

How about they play normal football. We ain't playing Madden here
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dukebound85 said:
But yea........I do prefer not to see trick plays as its somewhat cheap in my book, legal or not, whether my team wins or not

But yea, BSU can't seem to play conventional football in BCS games
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Are you kidding me? It was ONE fake punt! What about the rest of the game? How about the rest of that one DRIVE??

So, after the fake punt the next three pass plays capped off with Martin's leap in to the end zone wasn't traditional football, eh?

This mindset is ridiculous... One play in the ENTIRE game and they can't play "conventional football", whatever that means.

I guess you'd rather have had the American Revolution fought like "gentlemen" on open battlefields walking towards eachother, eh?

So creativity doesn't belong in college football?

Ridiculous...
 
obey908 said:
Utah beating Bama last year was a rarity, like app state beating michigan, except not as extreme
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Pretty rare indeed.....points to BSU beating OU..and Utah beating Pitt in Fiesta

thats 4-2 record of non bcs team bcs bowl record (losses of Hawaii and TCU) and 4-1 non bcs teams beating bcs schools in bcs bowl games

rare indeed :rolleyes:

evilgEEk said:
Are you kidding me? It was ONE fake punt! What about the rest of the game? How about the rest of that one DRIVE??

So, after the fake punt the next three pass plays capped off with Martin's leap in to the end zone wasn't traditional football, eh?

This mindset is ridiculous... One play in the ENTIRE game and they can't play "conventional football", whatever that means.

I guess you'd rather have had the American Revolution fought like "gentlemen" on open battlefields walking towards eachother, eh?

So creativity doesn't belong in college football?

Ridiculous...
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lol dont be so serious...but yes, BSU like to run trick plays
 
canes960 said:
So If you watched the Boise game last night and really believe they could compete against Alabama or Texas you must be on something. Did you see the Florida vs. Cincinnati? You can not tell me that the Florida game does not show how superior the SEC is.
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obey908 said:
Utah beating Bama last year was a rarity, like app state beating michigan, except not as extreme
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These comments are about as ridiculous as duke's!

You do realize the Fiesta Bowl had the #1 defense in the nation up against the #14 defense, right? What about The 'Bama/Tennessee game? That was one spectacular offensive performance, right??

Florida dominated Cincinnati because Cinci was overrated and had no defense. Put Florida up against TCU or *gasp* Boise State and that game will NOT be a blowout. I'm not going to say Florida couldn't win, but I will definitely say that they COULD lose.

Take off your blinders and realize there's great football outside of the precious SEC.

And Utah's PUMMELING of 'Bama last year was NOT a rarity, nor was it a "fluke". An SEC team got completely destroyed by a non-AQ team, and it can (and will) happen again.

I would LOVE for Boise State to get another shot at an SEC team. Yeah, Georgia destroyed us in 2005, but guess what! This is 2010, and this Boise State team would easily handle the majority of your precious SEC.
 
dukebound85 said:
lol dont be so serious...but yes, BSU like to run trick plays
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Sorry, I've just heard a lot of people use this lame argument to try to cheapen the victory.

But seriously, one fake punt doesn't mean they don't play "traditional football".

What you should be asking yourself is how did TCU not defend against it? Patterson even said they saw it on film and practiced against it.

So what is "traditional football" anyway? I'm not trying to be a jerk with that question either, I'm honestly curious what your take is. :)



EDIT: And I wouldn't say they "like to run trick plays", but rather they realize the importance of catching your opponent off guard. That play completely deflated TCU's defense, which is why we were able to finish the drive so easily. That's called great coaching, great play-calling and excellent execution.
 
evilgEEk said:
Sorry, I've just heard a lot of people use this lame argument to try to cheapen the victory.

But seriously, one fake punt doesn't mean they don't play "traditional football".

What you should be asking yourself is how did TCU not defend against it? Patterson even said they saw it on film and practiced against it.

So what is "traditional football" anyway? I'm not trying to be a jerk with that question either, I'm honestly curious what your take is. :)
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Lol I'm just bitter my MWC team lost....of course im gonna vent about trickery!
 
evilgEEk said:
These comments are about as ridiculous as duke's!

You do realize the Fiesta Bowl had the #1 defense in the nation up against the #14 defense, right? What about The 'Bama/Tennessee game? That was one spectacular offensive performance, right??

Florida dominated Cincinnati because Cinci was overrated and had no defense. Put Florida up against TCU or *gasp* Boise State and that game will NOT be a blowout. I'm not going to say Florida couldn't win, but I will definitely say that they COULD lose.

Take off your blinders and realize there's great football outside of the precious SEC.

And Utah's PUMMELING of 'Bama last year was NOT a rarity, nor was it a "fluke". An SEC team got completely destroyed by a non-AQ team, and it can (and will) happen again.

I would LOVE for Boise State to get another shot at an SEC team. Yeah, Georgia destroyed us in 2005, but guess what! This is 2010, and this Boise State team would easily handle the majority of your precious SEC.
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Tell me who the hell Boise or TCU has played. Please tell me cause I know Alabama has played 5-top 25 teams. And yet still has one of the top defenses.
 
canes960 said:
Tell me who the hell Boise or TCU has played. Please tell me cause I know Alabama has played 5-top 25 teams. And yet still has one of the top defenses.
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I swear, what does it take before you take non BCS teams seriously....even after 1 year from being pounded by one

This is exactly why the Fiesta Bowl sucked this year...to save BCS schools from being beaten

BSU has played 2 top 25 teams

TCU has played 3 including BSU

But those dont count do they

All I know is the MWC is 4-1 this year in bowl season, the WAC about to be 3-2 whereas the SEC is 5-4
 
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